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    ExpressCards

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Peon, Dec 19, 2009.

  1. Peon

    Peon Notebook Virtuoso

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    Just curious, but do you use your ExpressCard slot? If you do, what do you use it for?
     
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    User Retired 2 Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    DIY ViDock: external desktop video card for accelerated graphics/hdmi/gaming.
     
  3. sgilmore62

    sgilmore62 uber doomer

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  4. tilleroftheearth

    tilleroftheearth Wisdom listens quietly...

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    I use mine for a POS Lexar 16GB SSD that is used by eBoostr as a cache for my Hitachi 7K500.
     
  5. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    I use my ExpressCard slot to hold the plastic placeholder specifically designed for it that came with my laptop. :p
     
  6. tilleroftheearth

    tilleroftheearth Wisdom listens quietly...

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    Mastershroom, loving it!

    +1
     
  7. Apollo13

    Apollo13 100% 16:10 Screens

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    Haha, well, I guess I do use it for that! But otherwise, I've yet to use it. Not sure if I ever will, either. Maybe for USB 3.0?
     
  8. zirdaj

    zirdaj Notebook Consultant

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    Fortunately, I don't have to use that plastic placeholder because alternatively I can place the mini-remote that came with my laptop on that expresscard slot. :p
     
  9. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I voted never - although I do have an SD card reader for it, however, since I use an EOS since I have my Vaio I don't need SD cards any more... resulting in a "never".
     
  10. Xtt

    Xtt Notebook Consultant

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    YES! Same here.
     
  11. Melody

    Melody How's It Made Addict

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    Am I allowed to vote if my laptop doesn't even have an ExpressCard slot? :p That'd put me in the "never" category wouldn't it? XD
     
  12. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    There is a "my laptop doesn't have one" option.
     
  13. Melody

    Melody How's It Made Addict

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    I voted "never" anyways considering I had a laptop which had an ExpressCard slot, but never used it in the lifetime of the laptop. My new one has a PC card slot rather than an ExpressCard slot and that one will just as likely never be used also :p
     
  14. f4ding

    f4ding Laptop Owner

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    Who uses ExpressCard anyway? PCMCIA card FTW!
     
  15. Duct Tape Dude

    Duct Tape Dude Duct Tape Dude

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    I have a Creative sound card that I usually use, and a bluetooth remote that recharges there too.
     
  16. crayonyes

    crayonyes Custom Title! WooHoooo !!

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    this is what I'm using it for LOL

    [​IMG]

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    *it's a crappy naked 256MB flashdisk :rolleyes:
     
  17. aidil

    aidil Notebook Evangelist

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    Haha... Then I should have voted on a regular basis option since my Studio 17 came with Infra Red remote controller that sits nicely in the ExpressCard slot. :D

    Other than that, I use it on a few occasions with Delkin ExpressCard 54 Compact Flash Adapter to deal with files from my DSLR.
     
  18. $immond$

    $immond$ Notebook Consultant

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    I use my for collecting dust samples.
     
  19. sean473

    sean473 Notebook Prophet

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    a really big LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  20. flynn337

    flynn337 Notebook Consultant

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    Are there no avid photographers out there? Isn't an expresscard slot the only way to support CompactFlash cards on modern laptops without using an external reader?

    I was surprised to see how few manufacturers are making CF expresscards, especially the 54 variety.
     
  21. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Or a USB cable to the camera ;) did that until I ended up buying an external reader in Poland after leaving my charger in .de - got a new chrager in Poland too though...
     
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    cup holder! anyone?
     
  23. msmcintosh

    msmcintosh Notebook Enthusiast

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    eSATA adapter for external hard drive.
     
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    __-_-_-__ God

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    I'm searching for an usb3.0 adapter. I can't find any yet but I known they are manufactured... anyone knowns where to buy one?
     
  25. acaurora

    acaurora Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Voted yes, on a regular basis, but I don't think my vote should count, haha, because all its doing is charging my MoGo mouse :)
     
  26. flynn337

    flynn337 Notebook Consultant

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    flynn337 Notebook Consultant

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    There are advantages to not having to use the camera to download images. But I guess everyone is moving to USB readers, besides the /34 ones (that stick out) for the macbook crowd.
     
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    There are USB 3.0 express cards son ebay.

    If using it only for external storage, short e-sata cards on ebay provide a compact and cheaper solution, so long as are using an e-sata enclosure/cable.
     
  29. LaptopGun

    LaptopGun Notebook Evangelist

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    Never. I just left the placeholder in my Acer Ferrari. My Thinkpad's slot is empty. Dunno what I can do with it. TV tuner? USB 3.0? Memory Card Reader?
     
  30. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    Mine has a spring loaded flippy door that I do like to play with when bored, so I guess it does have it's functions...
     
  31. celticbrooder

    celticbrooder Newbie

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    Toshiba A135-S2326 (P/N PSAD6U-01800D)... there's a little box with "CB" embossed on the side, next to the slot - assume this means CardBus (vs. ExpressCard)... could this be used with an adapter and SD card for ReadyBoost or OS (Vista) booting? (CSR @ Toshiba says will boot from PCMCIA)
     
  32. Duct Tape Dude

    Duct Tape Dude Duct Tape Dude

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    Usually hard drives are much faster than SD cards, but yes you probably could if you had the right adapters. It'd make sense as a readyboost item more than anything.
     
  33. hki

    hki Notebook Enthusiast

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    One of the uses for an older laptop would be broadcom's decoder card.

    http://www.broadcom.com/press/release.php?id=s387287

    Anyone ever see one in expresscard 34 form? I have been trying to find one, but no luck so far. My guess is that it was only produced in miniPCI-express form for netbooks.
     
  34. The_Snowman

    The_Snowman Notebook Consultant

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    Me too, DELL Inspiron 1720 :)
     
  35. OpenFace

    OpenFace Notebook Consultant

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    I use the Expresscard on my XPS M1530 for holding the remote and will occasionally use it for a Firewire card. I have the ADS Pyro 1394a because it is compatible with my recording interface. The only downside is that it still won't deliver bus power like I get on my Macbook or from a desktop. It is a great little card, though.

    My laptop has a 54mm slot, making it hard for the 34mm cards to stay stable. Luckily, I found these ExpressCard Stabilizers. I put it on and used some scotch tape to keep it secure. Now it stays in the slot without any trouble (though it will come out if I pull straight out)!

    I would like an eSATA adapter but I don't have any eSATA storage devices. USB 3.0 would also be really cool but not quite practical for me yet.
     
  36. celticbrooder

    celticbrooder Newbie

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    Agreed... it is a compromise, but I'm maxed @ 2Gig RAM... also, I noticed a bit of a difference between using my Toshiba "ReadyBoost" compatible 8Gig USB pendrive (using 4Gig) and and old SD card reader (Scandisk MobileMate SD+) stocked with an old beater Scandisk 4.0GB SD card (tested out a little faster
    Also, as far as I understand, USB uses a little more CPU overhead, particularly when more than one USB unit is plugged into the same bus(?) socket... my thinking was to try to utilize the CardBus to PCI connection (actually, I'm not sure which CardBus standard or "mode" is useable... again, from what I understand, PC Card 32 bit (CardBus) DWord mode should give me a max potential "speed" of 133.33MB/s (comparable to PATA UDMA133? - my HDD is SATA - not sure if 150, 2, etc.) and I've never come even close to USB claims of max 480... typically will top out at about 19 to 20 with the SD/Card Reader)
    The other idea was to cut down on HDD activity... this notebook tends to cook HDDs (yes, it's been disassembled and physically cleaned)...
    Maybe a CardBus adapter and either a 4-8Gig fast(er) SD card or (possibly better?) CF card?? (SDHC is cheaper, CF is "faster"?) or larger (8 - 16GB and load a few other things to cut down on HDD activity)
    Would appreciate opinons... haven't found much difinitive info on this subject (yet)
     
  37. KimoT

    KimoT Are we not men?

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    I will eventually use mine for a USB 3 card. On the Asus G51, the plastic placeholder has space to store two memory cards, so I use it for that.
     
  38. Duct Tape Dude

    Duct Tape Dude Duct Tape Dude

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    It's 480Mbps, not MBps (megabits, so divide by 8 to get theoretical max speed of 60MB/s). But you're right, even hard drives have a problem sustaining >25MB/s over USB.

    I believe SATA 150 has a theoretical peak of 1.5Gbps, someone correct me. SATA 300 is 3Gbps, and there's a 6Gbps spec coming out soon.

    CF and SDHC are comparable in speeds until you get to the mid-high end, which is probably what you want. If you can find a compact CF to Cardbus reader, go for it.

    There exist Expresscard SSDs, but afaik they're kind of crappy in terms of read/write speed.
    I think the best readyboost option would be to find the fastest (not necessarily highest-capacity) SD or CF card with adapter for your computer's slot and just leave it plugged in there. One word of caution: often times manufacturers will make the adapters for laptop cardslots to be a USB controller + memory card reader, so you might not get the speeds you want. I know the expresscard standard actually has USB all ready to go in it already.
     
  39. celticbrooder

    celticbrooder Newbie

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    ooops (re: Mblops...) got it... kinda-sorta had a feelin' about CardBus/CF (from a not-so-qualified-as-to-really-have-a-clue perspective)... will stuff the bugger in there and forget about it... may even leave it in there when I eventually ditch vista and install 7...
     
  40. Kuu

    Kuu That Quiet Person

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    I've yet to find a use for mine, because my laptop has more ports than I really need (I've yet to use the FireWire port and doubt I'll ever need to, and the docking station connect does seem useful, but).

    Wish I could throw in a 1 Cell battery or something~
     
  41. Step666

    Step666 Professional chubby Chris Pratt impersonator

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    I use mine on a near-daily basis ( I don't use my laptop every day, so be default I can't use my ExpressCard slot every day).

    I have a Merlin XU870 HSDPA modem - it's similar to the one linked-to by nando4 in the second post of this thread, except I only paid £20, not $180 and the XU870 is unlocked to any GSM-based network and supports speeds of up to 7.2Mbps.
    Absolute bargain IMO.


    Also, I'm considering getting an ExpressCard TV tuner as well, so I can watch the likes of the IPL or the World Cup when I'm away from home.
     
  42. Peon

    Peon Notebook Virtuoso

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    How much do you pay for the data?

    Mobile broadband sounds awesome, but a mere 500 MB of cellular data would cost me more than the price of your HSDPA modem.
     
  43. Step666

    Step666 Professional chubby Chris Pratt impersonator

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    I don't.
    Currently I have access to a SIM that is paid for by my work, so there's no cost to myself.

    If/when I get round to leaving this job, then I'd probably be looking at £25/month for an 10GB mobile broadband package.
    That's with Orange, so I'd possibly be eligible for a discount (potentially 40%), meaning it would be a bit more reasonably priced.
     
  44. Darth Bane

    Darth Bane Dark Lord of the Sith

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    Does anyone know of a wireless adapter expresscard that doesn't extend out?
     
  45. Padmé

    Padmé NBR Super Pink Princess

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    I don't believe there is such a thing.
     
  46. computerstriker

    computerstriker Notebook Evangelist

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    Like everybody else, I'll eventually use the express slot for a USB 3.0 card =D
     
  47. Darth Bane

    Darth Bane Dark Lord of the Sith

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    I despise expresscards that either don't fill the gap or extend out. It looks so ugly.
     
  48. Step666

    Step666 Professional chubby Chris Pratt impersonator

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    By their very nature, a lot of them need to extend out because of how thin the ExpressCards are - if you want something like USB ports, you need something thicker than an ExpressCard slot to plug into, so it needs to stick out a bit.
     
  49. niffcreature

    niffcreature ex computer dyke

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    i have been waiting till i get a x200 or x201 get a firewire expresscard. ive always wanted to find a powered one, or figure out a way to power it.