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    Fake Plextor mSATA SSDs ?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by GalaxySII, Nov 13, 2014.

  1. GalaxySII

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    Hello fellas
    I jus received my ordered SSDs but they are not those what I ordered !!
    the title on ebay was ; Lite-On PX-256M6M - Plextor M6M mSATA SSD 256GB
    But I dont see any PLextor logo on them !!!
    Did they send me fake SSDs ? and some weird black marks on the left on both !
    Check pics below ..

    [​IMG]
     
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    Those are Lite-On SSD's but they are identical to the Plextor M6M but Plextor just pluts a different sticker on them and a different firmware.

    So no there not fake, they are just the Lite-On branded one's.

    Just like the Crucial M4 is the same as a Micron C400, just different branding and firmware
     
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    Thing is I have Plextor M5M 2x ..
    in bios says PLEXTOR PX-256M5M
    Is there way to rename these liteon to PLEXTOR PX-256M6M ?
    I remembered one program thaiphoon or something like that guy was able to rename all manuf. model etc.
     
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    OEM drives, There is the DELL Part no. No warranty what so ever.

    You don't really want to flash anything on them unless it is official, imo.
     
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    i just wanna change name of it that's all .. in bios I wanna see Plextor M6M .. and in windows too ...
    how do i do that ..
     
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    bcos thaiphoon burner is special program for RAM memory and there u can change EVERYTHING .. looking same thing for SSD
     
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    I hate to break it to you, but no matter how much you tweak it or what it says in software, it still won't be an official Plextor M6M.
     
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    it is official plextor .. liteon working together with plextor .. but these types are supplied within laptops .. plextor is retail
     
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    What's your need to change the name? Are you planning to sell your laptop in future and misrepresent the components to the buyer or something?
     
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    Well no I will be creating Quad RAID 0 soon but I have current 2x SSDs named Plextor etc.. so I wanted all 4 same name in BIOS and windows ... have it nice and neat tho ... now it wil be tatty Lite on mixed with Plextor ..

    I used to have Vaio AW and I managed to install 4x Samsung SSDs (in 2009-10) but I almost threw that laptop out of window when RAID utility poped up message that I cant create RAID 0 with 4x drives .. f-- I was PROPER GUTTED !! It allowed me do only 2x ..
    And as u can se on the pic there are nicely ALL 4 called samsung .. (pic below)
    But now I have 2x Plextor labeling and 2x Liteon IT .. will be tacky ..

    [​IMG]
     
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    The raid driver don't really care what your drives are called - -'
     
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    I have an old K7 Thunder with U320 SCSI on board. I bought drives off ebay for next to nothing (untested). They are identical drives but one reports as IBM and the other as Sun Microsystems. As others have said, it will not affect the functionality. If this really bothers you, return or sell them and buy Plextor branded drives.

    It's just your OCD kicking in dude. How much is it with to you?
     
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    well seller explained me and i said ok ill keep them .. they were cheap tho £160 both
     
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    I have to admit that it initially bothered me about the SCSI drives. After doing some research I realized that it was merely a text string in the firmware.

    Cheers!
     
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    of course it is just text ..
    this cool soft thaiphoon burner Thaiphoon Burner - Official Support Website will open whole RAM modules and u can call it even D-Head .. Or C-Sucker... I thought there is same thing for SSDs ...

    [​IMG]
     
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    I did not know this so I learned something new. :cool:
     
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    been long time ..
     
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    Lite-on mSATA drives I do not like at all. They have a rotten firmware. I will never buy this brand. You run the risk that the mSATA drive switches between sata ll and lll. Se my tred: http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...t-64m6m-msata-64gb-issue-running-3-0gb-s.html
     
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    u just cant pick items with name label . that means nothing .. on these ssds there are toshiba components..
    toshiba is quality manuf.
     
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    Yeah; you should be picking on name label... just like you are with 'Toshiba is quality manuf'.... :)

    I agree with papusan and that link to 'the best performing SSD's' is nothing but 'scores' that don't translate to real world performance in any meaningful way.
     
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    Although those using toshiba components, it does not mean quality SSD (mSATA .. SSD controller and firmware are just as important, perhaps the most important thing you have on the whole disk. :rolleyes:

    Edit: The only reason we have Lite on mSATA drives in laptops made by different manufacturers, is cheap a very cheap price. price. price. Lite-on selling only due to a very reasonable price. Had Lite-on drives had the same price as the renowned manufacturers, Lite-on would not be able to sell a single product to laptop manufacturers .. :D
     
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    However, notebook manufacturers are looking for a reliable product (Dell use Liteon SSDs in their business notebooks with 3 year warranties).

    I don't recall reading about problems with Liteon SSDs and would be willing to buy them if available in the retail chain.

    John
     
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    well benchmark results doesnt mean it is bad in real world! then it is about your likes.. EVEN if bench is top you ignore it bcos you prefer different ssd .. so all these benchs are for nothing then.. people make their own decision anyways .. it is NOT about benches or real worlds etc.. it is in individual human ......
     
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    it is NOT chep .. cheap DOESNT MEANS S**T ! it is purchased on ebay by persons who doesnt care how much will sell ANY items for ... there is price for one £150 form other sellers.. and even more from others..
    It is me again .. I do research and I dont buy like other people throw ridiculous moneys , and dont tkink b4 purchase
    people are naive thinks when something is expensive will be better hahah .. these rules ended in this world loong time agoo... now in market prevails ; 1 rip of 2. lies 3. marketing tricks 4. lies in benchmarks 5. various tricks, but you dont see it ..
    yes lite-on wont sell bcos naive common people HAS NO IDEA what
    LiteON is ! you basic person knows what shtsung is that is it .. bcos u have prob shtsung mobile or isheep phone ;)

    here is how apple sells their ''omg'' phone with different storage chips which some are slower some faster ! and toshiba is best

    [​IMG]
     
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    exactly ! seller said he removed them from dell precission 6800
     
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    You have a naïve view of the world... Reminds me when I was young and bright eyed all those years ago. :)


    Manufacturer doesn't care about performance. They care about making it past warranty period (if they can...).

    Same components different brands are a huge difference. Patriot Inferno SSD's from way back when vs. Intel 320's and especially the 520's are worlds apart. Same basic parts, Patriot=(*&( Intel=greatness.

    Same thing today, except I've learned to leave the *(*(* alone. ;)


    And for me, it is all about real world use. If a new component doesn't give me a noticeable improvement over what I have/had previously, it is returned.

    Not by what is said or written about it in a review. No, only by how it performs in my systems. Period.


    Real world (at any price) beats theoretical arguments about 'it should be good enough; same components', 'seller removed them from a 6800' and other attempts at 'proving' that an inferior product is somehow equal to and cheaper than another (proven) component.


    I'm not trying to convince you that I'm right. You'll learn soon enough. What I am trying to show you is that your logical deductions are not taking all the information into account (only your small world view of them).


    Good luck.
     
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    Well something tells me that u are actually STILL kid talking rubbish here !! :D
    Or another person here on forum tries to be on show up or thinks he is better or something so pathetic and sad ..
    manufs doesn't care about performance ?!?!? what the hell a nonsense u saying ?
    passing warranty ?
    man YOU have very very weird view of life .. I didn't have this EVEN I was younger :D :D
    Manufs DO care about performance u loon .. otherwise they wouldn't make faster and faster SSDs jeez man ..

    Patriot ? what the hell is it ? i hope u dont talk about crap usa produsct ftype some weird owc or ocz ..
    Intel ? please I bet u will say intel ssd are best :D as naive kid.. most rip off ssd . would NEVER buy them ..
    just bcos they are intel . ,. pleease..

    what real world you you even know what real world is? when u talking bout real world ? do u realise that using real world there is no difference btw these hardware components ? your daily use probably playing games makes no difference what SSD brand u will use in your machine.. there rae 2 or 3 % differences not noticeable differences in real world ..
    That is why I go for cheapest but I look for known brands ... You have not even idea that Lite-On + Plextor + Philips are working together..

    so what when he removed it ? u dont know whay he did it or why sold ..
    they have faulty products where removing all working parts and selling ..



    Haha you will learn soon haha u pathetic .. :DDD aaah what a self proud person man u are defo from USA do you :DDD

    u think when u have FAKE those green points and fake rep power u think u are grown man :) heh..

    well i suggest you go to lite on or plextor company and tell them they are crap as u think I really wonder what they will tell you REALLY

    Your post is complete useless and sad..
    Please STOP embarrassing your self :D
     
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    If OEM lite-on SSD is s***, then plextor SSD is s***. Which doesn't make much sense. :)
     
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    I think am talkin to kids here what they don't do nothing else just playing stupid games .. makes them mentally damaged ..
    The thing is that if we talking about plextor or lite-on , they manufacturing only PCB board with small components (such resistors , diodes , but actual controller chip and storage chip is from others manufs .. and hundreds of manuf doing same .. but people has no idea (exceptions are not counted ) the result will be STILL same little % + or - differences.. or if there is significant difference it will be reflected in HUGE price difference which is NOT worth for real world usage..
     
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    Well, more than that, They are selling a product under their brand.
     
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    Once you've got two different products ( size of disk) from the same brand (Lite-on) with different problems, then you lose faith in the brand. Many manufacturers use the same storage chip but different controller chip and firmware. Why should I choose the same brand for the third time? I choose disks according to what I and my friends have experience with, as well as some test pages. That is why I do not buy for example Alienware laptop with large ssd (mSATA) disks. I choose the smallest disks they can deliver and replaces them with someone I have picked out of the experience. :thumbsup:
     
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    Uhmm... okay.

    To clarify; I have never played games on my systems. Waste of cpu cycles in my view.

    Real world is my workflows on same (software) setups for the past few decades.

    My tests; change one component (RAM, CPU, HDD/SSD or software (upgrade) and test against what I know. If it's better, then I buy (and/or) keep it. If it's not better... back to the store it goes. (If it was an software upgrade, non of my other workstations (desktops and notebooks) get updated to that version...).

    You have the bigger . Great.

    Good luck with that.

    You're still talking like you don't live in any real world I've ever known.

    Individual pieces in a computer components don't make the system. It's the complete synergy (or lack thereof) of that makes or breaks a component for me. You know; balance.

    Like Hitachi drives being head and shoulders above any other HDD I've ever used. Balanced between the highest performance, lowest heat/power output/usage and greatest longevity vs. any other manufacturer by a long shot.

    You remind me of an acquaintance in the late seventies who vowed that spec's rule and nothing could sway him from that viewpoint. Uh... okay.

    He went and bought a $2K stereo system from Radio Shack because the equipment chosen was the lowest THD figures he could find... while also getting the most number of equipment along with the biggest speakers possible. That system was 'listened' to for a handful of times and was soon forgotten. It made my ears bleed. Not from how loud it could get, rather; how bad this 'perfect' system sounded. The longest he had the system on (even during parties) was less than two hours (supposedly to cool it down) but even he couldn't take the assault on the ears, though he wouldn't ever admit that.

    When he heard the sound system I had put together (and I suggested he get something similar to) for less than half of his (but with only 3 components) he again commented how frugal he was for getting so much more 'stuff' for only about twice what I had paid. Then he heard the sound. Yeah, didn't see him much from then on. But that night we listened to my system for over 6 hours and if his wife didn't call him to go home, we could have made it twelve hours and our ears would still have wanted (and enjoyed) more.

    It's okay. Insult away. You're the king here, correct?

    But you're the one that wants to rename what an SSD reports so that it matches the brand you already have.

    And you're telling us/me that brands are not important.

    Keep fooling yourself. I'm good. ;)

    Yeah.
     
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    well i dont know how many times u had problems .. i never had problems with ssd but had with ram... like hynix ,
    but what u said about smallest disk or ram etc.. am doing actually same.. I just want to buy particular laptop and thinking that they can remove 128gb ssd and 1tb disk as i dont need it bcos i have ready these thing so they could sell laptop cheaper.. yeah ..
     
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    Well i have yamaha receiver and it is great .. sound is great.. also have logitech Z5500 they are from 2004 and look they are awesome till now and still will be ..
    it is about personal preference .. and about experience ..
    as papusan said .. he had 3x bad experience with HW .. so i understand that ..
    no am not big king here .. just u insulted that u said stuff in your previous stuff so i couldn't let it .. am not idiot
    I know what am doing.. and all works for me ..
    I even buy faulty laptops and repair them same smartphones.. unlocking BIOSes unhiding advanced features etc.
    Yeah I was talking aboud brand and title the reason was that I wanted rename them that I will have all 4 SSD in same name in BIOS and Device manager.. for very first time I was surprised what I received BECAUSE seller put the picture as Plextor.. But it all ok now...
    No not king .. just let you know u just can say to people ''You have a naïve view of the world... Reminds me when I was young and bright eyed all those years ago'' people has different views and for every person it works differently because of different opinions .. and experiences ..
    You real life differs form mine form others guys here .OK? It is not about u been doing for ages.. that doesn't matter ..
    if u have ability to send HW back to stores that completely different story .. I fu have friends in there or what plenty peole cant do this..
     
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    If you want to learn about music reproduction.

    See:
    The Absolute Sound

    Especially the early writings from Harry Pearson (RIP).


    Personal preference I understand. But that doesn't excuse or elevate a product further than some absolute level.

    While it can be good enough for some/most, the fact that there are levels above them has nothing to do with different views or opinions or experiences. All that does is explain why some/most people don't understand that there does exist better quality for more $$$$.


    The only friend I have is what's between my ears that tells me if I buy something sight unseen (and unreturnable) then I just have to swallow the pain of being had (which, if I did operate like that; that is what I would expect most of the time). With eyes wide open to the tricks of the trade (yeah; marketing mumbo jumbo not only from the manufacturers, but also from almost every reviewer and worse? The fanboys) I buy specifically from a local shop, with return privileges and with the knowledge that the burden of proof is not in the specs, but in the actual performance as expected in my workflows.


    I never insulted you. I was giving you my experience journey. You can take it anyway you wish, I guess.
     
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    Man :) I do not need to learn about sound.. we all knows about it ;) We loves it but obviously we don't go mad as we look at the price.. people with $$$ they can buy golden membrane speakers or if u seen quality speakers installed in lights .. there are now so many brands these days .. what my brother got is tannoy pillar speakers Tannoy Revolution DC6T SE Speakers as he works with the music and makes music .. then hes got e-mu sound card installed with control panel it is really great
    E-MU Systems - 1616M PCIe - PCIe Digital Audio System

    for my self I have my beloved Logitech decend sound Z5500 which i had since 2008.. They been released in 2004 and yet for £150 worth they still doing job !