Forget Arrandale, SB Huron River Platform on the Way

Huron River Mobile Platform

Look for it at CES 2011 (January) with these features:

• 32nm Dual/Quad Cores with hyperthreading and improved Turbo Boost, gpu integrated into the cpu (monolithic)
• Die size 22% smaller than Westmere
• Quad Cores will include integrated graphics
• Intel graphics with up to 2 gpu's on die
• Graphics with 2x the performance of current "Intel HD Graphics"
• Support for up to 4 monitors
• Ability to stream 1080p via Widi (Wireless Display)
• Introduction of the Intel bluetooth/wifi combo card
• Support for up to DDR3-1333Mhz Ram
• Support for SATA-6Gbs
• USB 3.0
• Light Peak
• New AVX (Advanced Vector Extensions)
• Support for HDMI 1.4 and 3D Visuals
• Ability to play 2 Blu-Ray movies on one battery charge
• Zero ODD Technology to reduce optical drive power consumption
• PCIe 3.0

Sandy Bridge will get shrunk to 22nm later in 2011 ( Ivy Bridge) and that will bring about quad cores replacing dual cores as entry level.

Some of the leaked cpu's:

Core i5:
2.5GHz 2520M
2530UM
2.6GHz 2540M

Core i7:
2610LM
2620LM
2.6GHz 2620M
2630UM
2640LM
2630QM
2.2GHz 2720QM
2.3GHz 2820QM
2.4GHz 2920XM

 

Hopefully they won't bow to retailers and deliver it late again.

 

Looks interesting. I believe Intel said the platform for Sandy Brudge would be the earliest for USB 3, but they didn't confirm whether or not it would actually have it. They will probably include USB 3.0 given the number of high end systems (ie Thinkpad W510) that use a seperate PCIe card to give the user one or 2 USB 3 slots.

That 2 GPU thing might really be something as far as performance goes.

 

IMO they're being aggressive but selfish with graphics, they already take close to 90% of the market share for graphics processing in consumer computers, and they want to grab and grab more. I hope someone gets a quantum computing patent before Intel does, that'll show them.

 

Intel is releasing new platforms faster than AMD can refresh one

 

Agreed witht that but u might as well say don't buy a laptop till 2015 when u'll have 8 cores as standard..... The tech world willl come to a stop and die if u said that...

 

Man, I remember how my Acer Ferrari was top shelf when I got it as a freshman in college. 2 Ghz processor, slot load DVD super multi dual layer with DVD RAM for good measure, WSXGA+ screen, thin and light, ATI x700, original battery life of 3 hours with WiFi was nice (boy that didn't last long), a PATA Hitachi 100GB 5400 rpm Travelstar. Yeah it was not a Pentium M yet the AMD had some throw weight for intense stuff (at the expense of battery life). But just a year later Intel had the laptop Core Duo dual cores out hahahaha. I looked longingly at some of those.

All in all, I'm impressed how long my W500 remained state of the art. (admittedly that owes to the fact OEMs wouldnt allow Intel to refresh the platform thanks to slow economy and glut of Montevina stuff). And hey, I lucked out and missed the Nvidia incredible melting GPUs

 

More news, from everyones favorite sites Fudzilla and Digitimes!!

 

No, native USB 3.0? That would be either really dumb or fake...

 

Intel doesn't want USB 3.0 to do well, they want Light Peak to take over.

 

Hmm... I'm not sure I like that. I mean, why not support USB 3.0 until Light Peak actually starts to come into play?

 

A twofold improvement in graphics would bring it up to the level of a low-end discrete card, or at the very least it would outperform ION. That would be great news.

 

Jayayess1190, you have always made me smile when I read these threads. You must have put up a hundred of them over the past 2 years. Keep them coming man, and keep waiting for that next awesome platform.

K-TRON

 

Will do. Already thinking about my signature for what I want in my 2016 notebook.

 

I just want one good tablet pc that doesn't cost and arm and a leg!

11.6" or so screen
Intel ULV Dual Core
DDR3 RAM
Integrated Graphics (like Intel GMA HD)
Capacitive Multitouch + Digitizer input
Windows 7 64bit
NO DVD DRIVE!!
LOOONG Battery life

 

The new lenovo X200 pretty much has all of this...

 

Too bad Wimax is total crap... Sprint just cannot seem to ever make the right decisions, hence why they keep losing millions of customers each quarter... on the other hand AT&T and Verizon and possibly T-Mobile and going with LTE, which will eventually meet actual 4G speeds.

4G = 100Mbps when in motion, 1000Mbps when stationary.

Wimax is not 4G...

 

Intel readies Sandy Bridge Linux Support

All signs point to skipping Arrandale. Plus with AMD saying Liano will be out around the same time, sounds like a fight.

 

Sandy Bridge sounds awesome...but I do recall a flurry of "all signs point to waiting for Arrandale (mobile nehalem)" comments and threads from lots of people 9-12 months ago. I'm sure a year from now, some juicy details about Haswell will be leaking onto the interwebs and tempting us to postpone purchases yet again. It's a vicious cycle

 

Wait, 200% faster IGP? That's three times faster!

 

Three times as fast, not three times faster

 

Both are valid.

 

That would be a contradiction. Unless if 2x (200%) faster is the same as 3x (300%) faster.

 

Would you say "one time faster" if something was twice as fast? I think not. The word "times" implies multiplication, not addition.

 

Yes, but you WOULD say 100% faster, which means 2x as fast, unless FUD is bad at math as most of the posters.

Update: I see the confusion here. http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/17536/1/

"Intel quotes a twofold performance increase with the Sandy Bridge generation and probably it compares it with its existing architecture."

That sounds like 3x, but its actually 2x.

 

The Phoronix article said 200% faster, which is why I brought this up.

 

Though I prefer intel mobile cpus(as they are way ahead), I am hoping llano makes AMD competitive at high end mobile. That will ensure intel will never postpone any platform release.

I am hoping we get bulldozer based mobile cpu's at some point(may be 22nm).

 

To pick a nit guys, Arrandale is a cpu generation (matched up to the Calpella platform) while Huron River is a *platform* matched up to a new cpu generation currently code-named Sandy Bridge.

In rough terms, the Calpella platform includes the current mobile i3/5/7 cpus fronted by the 5 series chipsets.

Late in 2010/early 2011, the Huron River platform *should* be the 6 series chipset fronting the next new generation of Intel mobile cpus.

 

Sandy Bridge to have USB 3.0 non natively:

 

No big deal. I have a functioning 4 port USB v3 adapter running on one of my Windows 7 machines hosted by an ASUS mobo, a C2D cpu, and an Intel 4 series chipset.

 

great info in this thread, thanks for posting

wowm those things exist? i thought your pc needed to have supportchip of some kind? good to know

 

More News

Turbo Boost improved:

Wireless to be the same?:

Choose among three:

 

Sneak peak at motion tracking in Sandy Bridge:

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Rumour: No Intel chipset with USB 3 until 2012

Intel preps new ‘Sandy Bridge’ processor wave for Core 2011

 

*Sneak peak at motion tracking in Sandy Bridge:*

Wow... You're really into this future computer tech thing eh?

 

Very much. Also, seems tick-tock has slowed down. Sandy Bridge Q1 2011, Ivy Bridge Q1 2012, Haswell Q1 2013. Haswell was supposed to be out in Q1 2012.

 

Haha, i don't think we'll have DDR4 memory as mainstream RAM by then though... I think it certainly could be required soon as bandwidth in well.. virtually everything in a computer is increasing twofold, with so many new computer standards ratified in the past decade (DisplayPort, HDMI, DVI (technically not new), switchable GPU's/GPGPU, QPI, DMI to list a popular well known few).

I know alot about the previous generation architecture Core 2's and so i hate how i'll have to get a whole new bunch of experience with Nehalem/Westmere based processors.. and have to learn about their individual new features, it's the reason i'm getting a ThinkPad W700 rather than a ThinkPad W510, since the W700 still has future potential (QX9300) for me but still has a 2000's chipset that i am most familiar with. I like to be familiar with whatever i own's technology and how it works before owning it.

 

Yum

 

Great info in this thread, Jayayess, thanks for taking the time to post all this. I put up a short blurb on Sandy Bridge today:
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=5609

Very exciting stuff.

I am using all Core 2-based computers; all this new tech makes them feel outdated but they all are more than fast enough for my uses. My laptop has a 2.26GHz C2D which I have yet to bog down; I have my desktop's Q6600 up at 3.6GHz/1600MHz FSB, which is more than fast enough for just about any PC task.
I don't think the improved processing power with these new chips is as exciting as the other technologies they bring to the table. Ex, AVX, integrated GPU, better power management, improved turbo boost.
We are getting closer and close to the single-chip computer. That may be where the future of computing is headed.

What we really need for improved battery life is improvements in the batteries themselves . . . only so much can be done on the computer's side to save power.

I'm hoping AMD brings something competitive to the table; Intel is great but they need a nudge to keep going like this.

 

Rumors on ulv Sandy Bridge and ulv Arrandale:

 

LOL dual Intel graphics cores.

Make your IGP twice as crappy!

*mourns the loss of nForce chipsets and nvidia IGPs...*

 

Hey, I'm all for AMD sinking vast amounts of money into R&D to try and play catch up with Intel, just to have Intel zip past them and always one step ahead of them. Just to keep Intel innovating, a win-win for the consumer I think.

Puhleeze, don't be so dramatic. Intel graphics are not that bad now, they've improved significantly over the last generation. I personally would prefer a stable, reliable, cool running system over a buggy, unstable, HOT, nvidia platform (graphics chip included).

 

what happened about nforce etc? There still are NVDIA IGPs like G310M and G210M... also seriously , dual graphics cores will not make crap intel IGP's better... crap remains crap.

 

Written by someone who clearly has no idea of the tech behind the chips, drivers, or OS support. A high percentage of laptop users, probably more than 95%, value battery life, cool running, and system stability over raw FPS numbers for games they will probably never play.

 

The X4500 in my ThinkPad is good enough for most of my needs. Aside from my games, it runs everything decently. I will say ABC's player for episodes of LOST has weird glitches once in a blue moon, but it still handles HD video great.

 

i nver am going to use an Intel GMA in my life ... not only is it crap but seriously , even the NVDIA ones still get better battery life.. with optimus now , it looks like Intel GMA's a poor...

 

Intel GMA is good enough for many, including me. The latest versions get better every year. Even when I had an EEE 901 I could play my favorite pc game Sim City 4 with minimal problems. But anyway guys please stop derailing this thread, which is about Sandy Bridge, and not how much you dislike Intel graphics. If you don't have any relevant info or comments to post, don't.

 

The 310M and G210M are not IGPs; the only relatively new IGP from Nvidia is the 320M in the 13" MBP. It's unfortunate that Intel has locked Nvidia out of making IGPs for Nehalem, because any such impediment to competition is to be mourned.

Intel's IGP has been steadily improving, though, and it looks like Sandy Bridge's IGP should be better than ION/9400M, though I suspect it won't match the 320M.

 

More Sandy Bridge tidbits

 

Now I just need this platform in a new Acer Timeline 11"
I'll skip the new machines this summer and wait for next year