Forget Arrandale, SB Huron River Platform on the Way

They're trying to clear out old stock. That's the weakest SB quad, so there's no way that price is realistically expected to sell.

 

Debatable. If they've already slashed the old inventory as much as they feel they can, then they might keep the new stuff "artificially" high until all of the old stock is gone. We'll just have to see.

 

Actually, that's exactly what I meant. I need to learn to be more clear...

 

Notebookcheck.net reviews the HD 3000 integrated graphics. Nothing unsurprising.

Review Intel HD Graphics 3000 graphics solution - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

I wonder, there is also an HD 2000 iGPU, so which CPUs will have which iGPU? I don't recall seeing a chart on this before.

 

Sandy Bridge has arrived! Excited!

Anandtech full list of all mobile processors.

 

Widi 2 has arrived:



It is built in to the processor now I think?

 

Weird numberings: 2635QM, 2649M/2629M (new LVs) and 2657/2617M (new ULVs).

 

So with these SB processors, can you switch between the igp (processor graphics as they call it now) and the normal graphics card?

 

Looking good, but I'm still confused by the sockets for these new mobile processors.

They say BGA is for quad-cores and rPGA is for dual-cores, but some quads are compatible with the rPGA as well?

 

Okay, NOW it's okay to complain about confusing names. This is obviously an attempt by Intel to trick customers into thinking that they are buying powerful processors when they're really buying LV or ULV.

 

I think those are OEM only chips with the weird names - but yes, they are confusing for us tech-lovers, let alone consumers who'll have to deal with the old i5's/i7's and the new i5's/i7's

 

Yep. Hopefully this pisses off a lot of people enough to switch to AMD so that Intel realizes that they can't pull crap like this just because they're the market leader.

 

from an anonymous intel rep --

You're reading the code names, those slides never updated to their new, intelligent product numbering:

Model i4-82516XM i4-82316M i4-62216M i2-427M i2-326M i2-325M
Cores/Threads 4/8 4/8 4/8 2/4 2/4 2/4
Base Frequency 2.5GHz 2.3GHz 2.2GHz 2.7GHz 2.6GHz 2.5GHz
Memory Speed DDR3-1600 DDR3-1600 DDR3-1600 DDR3-1333 DDR3-1333 DDR3-1333
L3 Cache 8MB 8MB 6MB 4MB 3MB 3MB
Hyper-Threading Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Estimated Price $1096 $568 $378 $346 $266 $225

Model i4-620M-BGA i4-620M-rPGA i2-323M i2-321M
Cores/Threads 4/8 4/8 2/4 2/4
Base Frequency 2.0GHz 2.0GHz 2.3GHz 2.1GHz
L3 Cache 6MB 6MB 3MB 3MB
Hyper-Threading Yes Yes Yes Yes

Model i2-423MLV i2-421MLV i2-416MLV i2-415MLV i2-314MLV
Cores/Threads 2/4 2/4 2/4 2/4 2/4
Base Frequency 2.3GHz 2.1GHz 1.6GHz 1.5GHz 1.4GHz
L3 Cache 4MB 4MB 4MB 4MB 3MB
Estimated Price $346 $311 $317 $289 $250

ooh wait, we forgot to update from the internal code names!

 

I'd also like to see the ddr3 1600 start kicking in, should help get decent igp performance whilst on battery. Here's to hoping a 15" quad core with switchable graphics and 10k 3dmark06 and 4-6 hour battery life is getting more affordable. Want my next setup to scream through everything without having to dish out the equiv of $2k or more...

 

So now that it's pretty clear quad-cores sandy bridge destroy the old ones on all fronts I'm expecting a bump in mid-range GPUs, and then I can be a happy buyer in a few months

 

The H67 chipset supports SATA 6Gb/s, but they didn't include the connections for it?

That's dissappointing to say the least...

 

Fun Facts: Intel's Sandy Bridge Processors

 

So that's where the name comes from.

Wait... Then what about Ivy Bridge? The first CPU that needs to be watered daily?

 

Will Sandy Bridge graphics be enough to power full 1080P Flash video from Hulu for example on a 1920x1200 LCD?

 

More than fast enough.

 

Even a GMA 4500MHD could handle that. HD Graphics 3000 will just laugh at it as it remains near idle clocks.

 

Does anyone know if the vPro tech is making its way over to i3 Sandy Bridge processors? I was surprised (and relieved) to recently read that the Arrandale i3 processors don't have vPro.

I can't find anything to indicate whether it'd be the same for SB though.

 

What's the big deal about vPro? Doesn't it need a special chipset (or possibly even special chip) to even be used? I'm guessing that you must have a good reason to want to go for a weaker processor to avoid it.

Anyway, Intel's vPro page only mentions Core i7 and i5.

 

I looked up some more about this. vPro seems to be a capability of the processor only and needs chipsets that support Intel AMT to work. For the current i series computers, this is only on the series 5 Q chipsets so HM55, PM55, these more generic models are AMT free. All do support the Intel Anti-Theft Technology and vPro is only for i5 & i7, seemingly denoted by a "vPro" logo. That's all for Arrandales.

Series 5 Datasheet link (SKUs on page 51)

HM65 & HM67 (SB chipsets) will have Intel Anti-Theft but denote nothing about Intel AMT on Intel's website nor in the 936 page datasheet pdf (including the SKU comparison). It doesn't seem to be publicly known (or at least documented) if all SB CPUs will have vPro or if there will be vPro versions like with the previous i cores.

 

Again, it's confirmed that only i5 and i7 support vPro. Also, there seem to still be vPro versions, like there have always been. You spent so much time shuffling through the documentation that you seem to have missed this page on the Intel website. The only thing that hasn't popped-up is the chipsets.

Out of curiosity, are you trying to avoid the vPro technology out of concern for something?

 

Thanks Intel:

Is why dual core SB isn't releasing until 2/20.

 

Real master-work : the consumer had to wait about 6 months after release to face a decent supply of Arrandale based laptops, now there's too much of them when Sandy Bridge's supposed to take over. Sounds logical.

 

So this means everyone still gets to pay a premium for SB for months to come ha? Nice.

 

Thanks for posting that link, it seems to fill in the missing piece pretty well.

While yes, I do not want a computer with vPro or AMT, I was more interested in it because press releases aren't too clear on what's needed for the system to work. They're written as if all computers are shipped with this feature. Simply saying something like 'SB will have a 3G remote kill switch' makes a lot of people go, "wait..?!?" and then they go research AMD a bit.

While the poison pill can still be received by Intel Anti Theft enabled chipsets without AMT, at least the BIOS needs to support AT and if it does, it is on/off selectable.

I was just looking for clarification for myself and anyone interested.

 

I see. So you're afraid that the system is hackable and that someone could create some type of malware that can lock down your computer for good (or something along those lines). I'm pretty sure that there needs to be some type of protection software in the BIOS (like LoJack) for it to work on consumer computers, though.

 

Ivy Bridge USB 3.0 will support 7/8, no Vista or XP.

 

Yes! Good bye to ancient tech!

 

Yeah, Vista really does deserve to be thrown out along with XP.

 

First glance at Sandy Bridge dual cores. Nothing overwhelming but as expected better architecture combined with higher turbo boost show some benefits. Then we have AVX which is akin to Sandy Bridge's secret weapon.

 

Core i3 and Core i5 mobiles still launching Feb 20th, Core i7 should be coming too.

1.4GHz 2537M
2.1GHz 2310E
2.5GHz 2520M
2.6GHz 2540M

 

So they really are going forward with this scheme to trick end-users into buying CULV processors by not properly distinguishing them. Unforgivable!

 

trick them? There are 2 types of customers:
1. The ones who now the CPU by number and what it does...they buy with knowledge and can't be tricked into anything.
2. The ones who can't distinguish between a CPU and GPU, they go into a store and buy the notebook which looks best for them...they are not interested in any technical data, and need the notebook just for some pretty basic stuff. For that even the most lowly CPU is adequate today.

 

I mean tricking the people of the second type who have more money than sense into thinking that the CULV 2537M is more powerful than the 2520M and then end up going for the CULV and wasting money. The Wal-Mart and Best Buy guys are going to love these CPUs immensely, since they don't have to worry about being asked what the "U" means and will just say that high model number = better.

 

The joke is that people buying an CULV will also be happier, because the notebook will be thinner and lighter...so essentially its a win-win situation...

 

Well, these officially came out yesterday.

Sandy Bridge Price SKU pdf

 

Intel Launches Sandy Bridge Celeron Processor for Notebooks

 

Can someone explain me what does concretly imply this feature (and then its absence on the 2630qm and the lower SB processors) ?

4G WiMAX Wireless Technology Yes

in these specifications :
Intel® Core? i7-2720QM Processor (6M Cache, 2.20 GHz)with SPEC Code(s)SR00W, SR014


Thanks in advance