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    Forget Intel Broadwell, Skylake On the Way

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Jayayess1190, Jul 3, 2013.

  1. D2 Ultima

    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    Oh no it's simply fun for me to say "beats with clevo stick". You can get what you want as long as you know the ups and downs of it all.

    I just like beating with the clevo stick =D
     
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    djembe drum while you work

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    While that would be great, my imagination can go even further: imagine Clevo performance hardware inside a Toughbook chassis - ultimate performance and nearly indestructable! (also would probably cost as much as a new car, but that's not the topic right now...)
     
  3. octiceps

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    Meh, Toughbooks go too far. It looks and weighs like a suitcase. Most ppl don't need military grade. ThinkPad is good enough.
     
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    djembe drum while you work

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    Speaking of Thinkpads, I have hopes for the P series that was recently announced. I'm looking forward to finding out more detailed specifications.
     
  5. tilleroftheearth

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    Agreed. Again; a matter of balance. IBM way back when (with Lenovo their manufacturing partner from the beginning, I believe...) got it right.

     
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    Hey guys, I'm kind of a newbie when it comes to this stuff but I've been reading through the thread and have a question for you. I know people have asked similar things before but now that more information is available I thought I'd ask anyway. I'm planning on purchasing a laptop soon but I'm wondering would it be worth waiting for the i7-6500U or is the i7-5500U sufficient? I won't be doing much more than web browsing, watching HD video and word processing on the laptop. I've read that the U-series CPUs are considered to be under-powered, but surely they're powerful enough to perform those basic computing tasks without straining or slowing down? Thanks for any help.
     
  7. Thorne

    Thorne Notebook Evangelist

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    That older CPU will suffice for your use, heck even an i5 or i3 would be enough based on your usage scenarios.
     
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    It is always worth to wait if you can (assuming you have a system you can use today).
    • The latest (equivalent)platform will offer more performance and features and be useful longer as a result even as your needs and workflows change.
    • The new platform will offer you a better resale value if/when you upgrade it in the future or when you donate it, it's usefulness will still be relevant then.
    • The old platform may drop significantly in price when the new is introduced.
    • The new platform may be equal $$$ to the old or even lower at introduction.
    • A new notebook series might be introduced with a new platform that more closely matches your use and/or style leanings.
    Of course, for your workflow, either will suffice. But depending on the local conditions of some of the aspects above, you may be kicking yourself if you were able to wait, but didn't.

    Good luck.

     
  9. TomJGX

    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    Totally agree... I would personally wait and get the latest if you can afford it..
     
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    Thanks for your replies guys! I think I'm going to wait for Skylake then, it can't hurt since I have a desktop which is plenty powerful to tide me over until then. The i7-6500U should be released in September, correct?
     
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    geniusfb Notebook Consultant

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    Between September and November
     
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    Indeed.... it should definetly be released during this period of time...
     
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    Can't wait for skylake-h to be released. Need a laptop within a month, intel better release everything on idf.

    Sent from my potato running on Android 5.0.1
     
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    Saw a news on wccftech. Apparently Intel is having problem to increase produce volume. Their own spokesman and ASUS both say there is globally supply shortages. Expect to get back on track until late September
     
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    Thats a looong time :(
     
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    Definitely way too long.

    Sent from my potato running on Android 5.0.1
     
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    Don't wait for anything if you can't.

    But, wait as long as possible. ;)

     
  18. Jayayess1190

    Jayayess1190 Waiting on Intel Cannonlake

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    Intel Skylake-H Workstation and Mobility Lineup Unveiled – Flagship Core i7-6820EQ and Xeon E3-1500M With GT4e iGPU

    25W quad cores are here. I want fanless U series.
     
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    More TDP throttling here we come
     
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    H-series doesn't bring new surprises except for them xeons.. Quad core i5's are a nice addition though, haven't had those in a while.
     
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    Haven't had those ever on mobile
     
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    Jayayess1190 Waiting on Intel Cannonlake

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    45W TDP and 35W cTDP?

    Isn't the current setup something like 58W TDP and 47W cTDP and the cTDP is what we usually use? Or am I wrong? Because if those are freaking 35W limited chips...
     
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    cTDP is configurable TDP. There are up to 3 levels, nominal, down and up. Nominal would be the equivalent of your current 58W / 47W setting so for 45W TDP would typically be 56W/45W. The 35W would be cTDP down to run the laptop with lower power consumption at load and lower frequency. cTDP up allows for running higher than nominal but might not be featured.
     
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    ikjadoon Notebook Deity

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    ImageUploadedByTapatalk1439998412.705020.jpg
    Found this picture on one of my most visited Chinese tech site. Apparently we can get skylake mobile next month.
     
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    Hopefully... I don't expect the HQ ones to come out before Q1 2016 though... DDR4 mobile RAM is just being produced now in significant quantities so supply might not be enough just yet though...
     
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    Coming soon...

    [​IMG]
    See here
     
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    Jayayess1190 Waiting on Intel Cannonlake

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    Seems to me Intel is improving mobile platform. . .
     
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    Architecturally, I'm sure they are (or at least they're trying). For the average buyer, though, it's hard to get too excited about the models listed above because the clockspeeds are the same as before. For instance, in my Thinkpad W530, I have an i7 3720 that goes up to 3.4 Ghz on all 4 cores. In October, I can get a brand new Thinkpad P50 with a Xeon E3 1535M v5 that goes up to 3.4 Ghz on all 4 cores. Now I know there are architecture and graphics improvements, but clock speed hasn't improved much at all.
     
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    That is so true... My Alienware does 4.0GHz on 4 cores and really these CPU's won't even come close with all the improvements... I just wish the Intel iGPU was a bit better on the Alienware to be able to output 4K with little issues...
     
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    But clock speed has never been the final determinate of how much real performance a platform offers. And IB vs. Skylake will see definite performance improvements - even at the same clock speeds.

    Will the new TP's be capable of 64GB of (ECC) RAM or more at 2667MHz or higher? That is what will make my productivity jump on a mobile setup.

     
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    Oh, I know Skylake is more efficient and more powerful per clock cycle. My point was simply that to the average buyer, it doesn't look much better.

    For me personally, the only compelling technological advances that would really make me want to get a new system would be in the areas of graphics, storage, and battery life & duration. Improving processing power is nice, but I'm not processor-limited on most things. And the 32GB RAM in my system is more than sufficient for my current needs.
     
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    How much of a difference in clocks is there between Skylake and Haswell in most tasks (not specific ones)?
    3% to 5% perhaps?
    Or is it more?

    I mean, considering I hadn't bought myself a new laptop in nearly 7 years, I think jumping to Skylake would be pretty good for me either way.
    Though... now I'm just holding off for another year until mobile HBM GPU's arrive. I simply don't want to get tech that's been recycled for years now.
    Granted... Skylake on its own will be out shortly... but the GPU's... not really - and I'm itching to see if AMD's R9 NANO makes into mobile form factor... now THAT would be sweet.
     
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    From what's been published and theorized so far, we're probably looking at roughly a 5-10% performance increase across the board.
     
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    Haswell > Skylake is about 10%.
     
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    Chinese MSI dealer already stocked GT72 with i7-6820HK.
    Specs: i7-6820HK+16G(8x2)DDR4+970M(980M)+128GSSD+1THDD
     
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    Y u no link? Thanks though, I wanna check this
     
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    ImageUploadedByTapatalk1440522962.121925.jpg ImageUploadedByTapatalk1440523009.046885.jpg
     
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    Check #546, if u know Chinese ...
     
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    You don't really have to know chinese to understand(even though I do), just read the numbers and english letters, they should know most of the stuff lol.

    Sent from my potato running on Android 5.0.1
     
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    Just a reminder for readers
     
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    ImageUploadedByTapatalk1440558625.388098.jpg ImageUploadedByTapatalk1440558632.221220.jpg
    New Clevo P750 and P770 specs, from Hasee. They're announcing skylake series laptop
     
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