Forget Nehalem, Sandy Bridge coming Q4 2010

This is a whole new platform based on 32nm, Nehalem originally was 45nm then die shrunk to 32nm (Westmere), but that was dropped and we get die shrinks only (at least in laptops).

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Nehalem gets a short life in laptops, less than a year.

 

With top of the line CPU @ 2ghz, I do hope intel has the sense to get down to 32nm sooner; and AMD needs to sort their manufacturing technology, otherwise Intel will just keep overcharging; 2ghz i7 mobile chip for $1k... ehh

 

Why couldnt they release it in 2011-2012 so that i can get a new laptop in the coming months and be happy

 

Better technology is always around the corner, could wait the next best thing forever, or if you need it, just get it now.

 

couldn't agree more...

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I don't "need" it at the moment, just waiting for the right time to upgrade

 

Will this be much of an improvement over the fasted C2D mobile processors?

 

Yes, Sandy Bridge will be a whole new architecture built on 32nm unlike the upcoming Westmere processors which were shrunk. It will bring new performance and power saving upgrades. See the wiki for some general info on it.

And apparently the graphics will be able to compete with low end ATI/Nvidia! Link

 

I'm really excited for when the entire northbridge finally gets integrated onto the cpu package, then the southbridge will follow. System on a chip anyone?
I'm also waiting for larrabee.

 

Sandy Bridge is the 2nd Tock in Intel's lineup. The improvement is gonna be huge.

 

There isn't a right time for upgrading. So you can wait forever as well

 

That's what's happening at the moment or at least until my current laptop decides to give up!

 

We'll enter in a dark path full of ephemeral changes....

So I propose not to upgrade before 2011. I think it would worth it by then

 

I agree with you. I guess i have to postpone my laptop reserach for another year!

Compared to the Clarksfield processors, how will Sandy Bridge be better? Other than power usage!

 

Will next generation of cpus make a real difference in real world applications ??? 0,1 ms ???? Can we do better than better...I have a T2250 in my three years old laptop and it still works great when i compare it to my new one.

I mean take my mainstream notebook below and put a ssd in it then just watch it fly for the next 2 years. I don't think we really need all this future new tech for home usage.

The only good point i can see as for a general home usage is the lower power consumption.

 

Wikipedia (if you trust it) has the best info on the processors I can find.

 

I would just opt to buy a new system (if you want it) when the next larger change in chipset/architecture such as this one occurs.
So effectively we are looking at an upgrade time-table of about every 3 or 4 years ... that is if you just want to stay on par with latest tech, play latest games and be able to work in intensive programs with better ease compared to before.

For example ... had I known that my present laptop won't be able to support quad core cpu's despite the fact I have a suitable chipset, I would have likely held off and waited for something better at a similar price tag because cpu power is needed for me when doing things in 3ds Max.
Although, getting a lappie this good for such a low price is also next to improbable.

 

i would say that we're already experiencing such high performances yet boosted with the arrival of SSDs (HDDs transfer rates were the main weaknesses of today computers as for general system reactivity) that tomorrow improvements will inevitably be less impressive than before.

 

By the time we are near Sandy Bridge, you guys will hear Ivy Bridge which means you will never get to buy it.

Nah, we won't see Sandy before Q1 2011. Besides, the TDP suggests that will be a desktop version. Laptop version will have a lower clocked IGP.

 

QX9300 is a very potent CPU, it is on par with i7-920. e.g. I am thinking of getting a laptop with an average CPU but the one that can take QX9300. In a year or two when the price of QX9300 will plummet to $100 I'll upgrade.

 

When we could have an integrated GPU that should be able to handle advanced today games like GTA IV or Mafia II?

 

Doubt the QX9300 will ever plummet that much if at all. The highest end CPUs, even for older platforms, don't drop in price.

 

That sucks. I just checked QX9300 for $550 on ebay, it is ES though. I might get Q9100 instead.

 

Huron River is the codename for the Sandy Bridge mobile platform! Proof.

 

Exactly, case in point the T7600. People still want them, and they are very, very expensive

Intel's lineup is silly. Why wait for something in the future, when you can get something now.
What people do not realize is that most of the time, the user is the bottleneck, not the machine

K-TRON

 

Oh I agree, but I was referring to the large changes done to the newer generations of CPU's, GPU's and chipsets for example.
Because in 3d Studio Max, CPU power is what counts most in rendering for example.
And Nehalem for example is an excellent transition to a newer generation tech compared to what our P type cpu's were (which were effectively revisions of the same thing and nothing really intensively changed)

 

Yeah i can understand the need of a stronger proco for intensive tasks like 3d studio max. Not everyone uses this particular type of demanding software though. Is your gpu supported by the software btw ???

But now for example when you have to encode HD videos which is maybe the most common demanding task for the average family man, you can even use your gpu core (CUDA tech) to help the cpus.

 

So what after Intel brings 22,then 11 then 1 then -10 processors?

 

After 22nm is 16nm. BTW, Arrandale may be launched at CES in January.

 

I thought it would be 16nm after the 22nm, but recent presentation suggests 15nm instead...

 

I heard the mobile Sandy Bridge processors will be the first chips that become available once the architecture is released (in Q4 2010/Q1 2011) instead of the usual desktop parts. If they would only confirm this, then it would be worth waiting for.

But it seems they are really starting to delay this tick-tock cycle with mobile Nehalem so I hope they don't extend Arrandales 1-year life-cycle too.

 

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