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    Found PC2-5300 RAM with CL=4. What is the catch?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by hendra, Apr 2, 2008.

  1. hendra

    hendra Notebook Virtuoso

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    ScifiMike12 Drinking the good stuff

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    Do I need low-latency RAM?

    It's sort of an old article (2004) but it defines the point on whether lower latencies are worth it or not.
     
  3. hendra

    hendra Notebook Virtuoso

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    Actually, my question is not about the cost. I just wonder if G.SKILL is hiding something. Normally, you have to trade between bandwith vs latency and now suddenly you can get both. What is the catch other than the cost? And how come we don't see reputable manufacturers like Corsair or Mushkin sell RAM with the same or better spec?
     
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    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    No catch. We've been waiting for this. There will be a small performance boost under those situations where getting data into / out of RAM is the bottleneck.

    If you get this RAM then the Sandra memory benchmakr test result would be appreciated.

    John
     
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    powerpack Notebook Prophet

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    And we have been waiting for many people to post if 667Mhz at CL4 as far as I have seen no one has confirmed? This has been like 4 months so not like new? No one has done the slightest bit of effort to confirm and of course I know if running at 533Mz it will be CL4? I am troubled no one has posted, if the best thing since the "pooper scooper" would expect more posts? My argument is if it was people would have posted until then BS. ;) Hi John, do you know what I mean? ;)
     
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    Cheaper, you will have $24 less dollars.
     
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    swoley2k Notebook Deity

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    Be careful. I started to buy this last year when it first poped up on newegg. I researched for a good while and found that a lot of laptop motherboard documentations say that it wont support 4-4-4 memory at ddr2667. Its usually very well hidden and hard to find.
     
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    That is true it will default to 5-5-5-15.
     
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    kaltmond Clepple

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    Well, u can change the timings by some tools e.g. Thaiphoon. I made mein to 667@4334 and havn´t met any problem. :D
     
  11. hendra

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    OK, I just got one. I noticed that my system boots a bit quicker but that's probably due to upgrading from 2x1GB to 2x2GB rather than having RAM with shorter latency.

    Here's the benchmark

    Testbed:
    Sony FZ4000 CTO
    Intel Core 2 Duo T9500 2.6GHz
    Intel GM965 chipset
    2GB G.Skill PC2-5300 (4-4-4-12)
    2GB Crucial PC2-4200 (4-4-4-12)
    1GB Qimonda PC2-5300 (5-5-5-15)
    Sandra Benchmark Free Version
    Windows Vista Business SP1

    4GB is detected by the BIOS.

    CPU Timing according to CPUZ
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    Notice that only 1 Timing Table is available. This is a bit odd because usually I have more than one timing table for various memory speed. I don't know why I only have one. Does it mean that this particular G.Skill RAM is not backward compatible with slower system? It is also odd that Serial Number is not detected.

    Sandra Benchmark
    Memory Latency
    [​IMG]

    Memory Bandwith
    [​IMG]

    Cache and Memory
    [​IMG]

    Please note that Sandra benchmark results could vary if you run it more than one time. So, I am not so sure about the accuracy of the benchmark. Moreover, I don't have 2GB PC2-5300 (5-5-5-15) stick. The benchmark could have been more fair if I could compare it directly to 2GB PC2-5300 (4-4-4-12) that I have. I also have a feeling that my G.Skill isn't as good as the other competitors. But this is the only PC2-5300 with 4-4-4-12 in the market. I think Corsair has one but it is too expensive and they said it is optimized for Mac.

    Anyway, this is the benchmark I got. Any comments?
     
  12. John Ratsey

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    Thanks for this info. I'm a bit late noticing it. I'm also surprised to see that there's no SPD data for 266MHz. Sensibly this RAM would be CL=3 at 266MHz.

    The Sandra benchmark results are very informative. They indicate that the lower latency doesn't substantially boost the RAM performance (100-150MB/s).

    I'm dropping a link to this into the Dual Channel RAM Thread, so it's easier to find the results again.

    John