GL960 Chipset Processor Upgradability

Laptop in questions: Acer Aspire 4315. Gl960 chipset with a 1.86ghz Smell-er-on processor, 2gb RAM (self upgraded) and 80gb HD. X3100 integrated graphics.

What can I upgrade the processor to? Will a T5300 or a T5450 work?

 

Hard to say here. Officially the Intel site claims that the GL960 should only support Celerons, but there's quite a few reports of people using C2D on a GL960, so I'm not really sure of the best way to go around this one...

Barring chipset limitations, you're mechanically good through a T7800 since it's Socket P; a T5500 will definitely not work since that's Socket M.

 

What other processors will work? Do I need to be concerned about the FSB speed as well?

 

The processors that for sure will work are:

Celeron M 530 1733 1024 533
Celeron M 540 1866 1024 533
Celeron M 550 2000 1024 533
Celeron M 560 2133 1024 533

I like I said before, officially the GL960 only supports these Celerons on a 533MHz FSB. This post reports someone successfully using a T5450 on a 667MHz FSB on the GL960:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=210436

So my point is it is hard to say what processors are compatible because of the discrepancy between official and practical limitations; I'm not sure of ALL GL960 chipsets will actually support a 667MHz or even 800MHz FSB or just a few special ones that might be like downgraded GM965 chips.

 

Kthx. I think Im going to go with a T5450. That will definately be an upgrade over the Smell-er-on

 

Good luck on the upgrade; it'll be interesting to see if these C2D upgrades work consistently.

 

Did you manage the upgrade?

 

I got Gateway with GL960 chipset and T2310 and upgraded to T5450 successfully. I also upgraded RAM to 3GB even though the spec said that It can be maxed out at 2GB only.

 

Ah well I have an HP Compaq 6720s with a Celeron M 540 and wanted to upgrade to a T7100 I won on eBay for an amazing £41! Unfortunately I've found out that the chipset is the GL960 (I assumed that the laptop was using GM965). I don't know if the laptop would recognize the T7100 at all, it might run at 533 FSB instead of 800MHz (if that's possible) but probably won't work at all. I could always attempt it but I have to disassemble my laptop and if there are no guarantees then is there a point?

This confirms GL960 and 667MHz Core 2 Duos are compatible:

https://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=NB-VR601WO

 

OK, here's the moment of the truth the T5250 has arrived. Hopefully the next time I reply it'll be with a T5250 in

 

How did it go? =)

 

It works completely, fully functional I did cause some quite minor damage to the laptop in taking apart but nothing serious works like a beauty. So it seems the GL960 can achieve 667MHz FSB easily

 

Heh heh, another strike for the GL960 and another victory for the consumer

Congrats on the upgrade.

 

Thanks Wolf have to say it's a nice performance boost hehe. GL960 obviously does have support so hopefully future upgraders will have no hesitation I've got a healthy 4.6 in Vista WEI lol.

 

Okay, having just picked up a Presario C709NR myself I want to verify a couple of things: Each SODIMM slot can support 2gigs of ram? For a total of 4 gigs? (This was my original interest in buying the bottom line 965 laptop, make it look cheap and with the money saved pump up the internal specs.

Also Is it only the 667 FSB Mobile C2Ds that work, or will the newer 800mhz ones work as well just in reduces FSB mode?

Any help would be appreciated, thanks

Additionally: Does speedstep work properly? This is probably the biggest hindrance to the Celeron 530 IMO.

 

Only 667FSB processors will work. 800FSB ones will not fit.

 

Yes Speedstep does work.

 

Exodemia: Thanks, good to know.

In regards to the C709NR I myself have, I'm planning to pick up a 4 gig sodimm kit today to find out if my particular laptop will handle the extra memory.

In regards to the 667 FSB only, it *MAY* depend. Having done some extra research online it appears there are both Socket M (What I assume you have), and Socket P Celeron 5x0 series cpus (Excluding the 520 which was M only), and the Socket P ones SUPPOSEDLY swap with the Socket P T7500(?) although I couldn't find any information on if the processor was running at 533, 667, or 800 mhz FSB, and it's possible it's bogus information (anyone with the time and money to burn finding out?)

Update: Picked up a 4 gig SODIMM kit. At least some if not all C709NR's are in fact limited to 3 gigs or less memory (2 gigs if you want functioning dual-channel!). One 2 gig chip in either slot will work okay, and a 2 gig and a 1 gig should work fine, however as soon as you try addressing something just above 3 gigs, you get screen corruption, data corruption, or a lockup. I'm assuming *THIS* is what differentiates the GL960 from the 965GMs, failure to address >3 gigs of memory without rather serious stability problems. The only other possibility, swap the cpu and see if it's stable at 'Real C2D' speeds would require someone to desolder the cpu and either drop a replacement or socket the motherboard, neither of which would be cheap, or prudent, and likely wouldn't help in this particular instance anyhow.

Good luck to others who were lulled into buying one of these, as a cheap portable computer they're not horrible, but as an unplugged laptop, they leave much to be desired.

 

No my CPU socket is Socket P. And the Socket P T5250 that's I've installed work perfectly at full speed and functionality. So it is a totally worthwhile upgrade if you need it

 

Exodemia, could you do me a favor and list off the SLxxx sSpec code off your cpu and northbridge (if possible?)

Mine are SLA48 and SLASV, and I want to verify if they're Socket P (Which they appear to be, given that they're almost entirely undocumented ATM), in order to choose which C2D to order.

Thanks in advance.

 

UPDATE: A GL960 chipset CAN be upgraded!! We installed a Core 2 Duo T5450 into our Acer 4315; this is the 2nd successful Core 2 Duo upgrade in our house now

The 4315 is very responsive now, once it booted, it popped up with a Vista message screen "Windows is installing the drivers for your new hardware: Core 2 Duo Processor". Then it wanted to restart to finish the driver install. Restarted the laptop and WOW Its blazing now. Very easy upgrade, processor is right underneath the bottom cover. 4 screws to remove the heatsink/fan, move it aside, and everything is in plain view. Very very little disassembly.

Next: 7200 Hitachi 7K200 HD upgrade Then that will be the icing on the cake.

 

You should start a business! Congrats.

 

Sorry I can't vranash, it's in the lappie now I don't use laptop anymore anyway haha

 

You'll be happy to know I now have a compaq C709NR running a T7500 Socket P. On average it'll be running cooler than the Celeron M 530, and if you drop it to its lowest clock rate it'll get double the battery life of the Celeron M (However Compaq apparently skimped on a couple other features of the laptop... the battery has no built-in charge/discharge metering, which, at least under linux, means there is no 'battery time remaining' dialogue to let you know how long you have under current usage. On the plus side it's still much longer than the stock cpu.

Furthermore, I'm seeing an almost double peak frame rate in quake3, and high 40's under load (previously having been around 90 peak, and high 20's to low 30's with a lot going on.)
Keep in mind this was at 1024x768 and having just tested it at 1280x800, it's within 3-5fps.

So we finally at least have a non-dedicated gfx chipset capable of at least playing a ten year old 3d accelerated game at a decent frame rate

Also I saw memory bandwidth go from 2.3Gb/s to 2.8Gb/s so the cpu was definitely limiting things in the system (whether due to FSB or just the number of bytes it could push, I don't know.

 

Hello everybody. I'm new on the forum. I've got an Acer 5315 with Celeron M540 1,86ghz and GL960 chipset, 2 Gb DDR2.

I will try to replace by a Dual 2 Core T5500 (SL9SH), 1,66ghz fsb 667, and give you report about this 'operation', if it work fine or not.

So see you later (I hope)...

 

that processor WILL NOT WORK....

T5500 is socket M
acer 5315 pcs use the newer socket P... i made that mistake and bought 2 processors before an NBR memeber clued me in..

you can use ANY socket P CPU T5250, T5450, or even up to the newer T7500 i have seen working in an Aspire 5315 running at 800mhz FSB ...

stick w/ T5xxx or T7xxx SOCKET P CPUs and you will be fine

BTW my 5315 has a 965.......... before upgrading it was reported as a 960,, but after dropping in a T5450 CPUz then reported the chipset as a 965

good luck
bigO

 

Ok.

Where can we find this or this CPU is socket M or P?

On the Intel website I can find this information. Perhaps I don't look at the right place???
http://processorfinder.intel.com/List.aspx?ParentRadio=All&ProcFam=2643&SearchKey=

Thanks for explainations.

 

I found up this website where they precise socket M or P.
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_2/TYPE-Core 2 Duo Mobile.html

But there is a mistake on the T5250, they say socket M, I thought it was a socket P.

 

the T5250 is a socket P... someone needs to fix thier website..

this thread has current CPUs divided by socket type,, thanks commander wolf

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=209284

trust this page.... it's been seen by many many ppl... this is my best refrence when checking on unknown CPU models....

later,
bigO

 

Yes ok, thanks.

It gonna be helpfull for many people.

As for me, finally this week I found a T7500 (SLA44) that I put into my Acer 5315 which was initialy equiped with a M540 on a GL960.
Everything work perfectly, and very FAST, either under XP (32bit) or under Vista as well (32bit too).
If I believe Everest, it seems the FSB work at 793Mhz, and my chipset is always reconize as a GL960 (before and after the upgrade, no change)

 

Well done.Then I'd like to grab one T7700 or T7800 from ebay for my GL960 mobo

 

In fact, I wanted to try a T8xxx or T9xxx series, but for moment prices was to expensive for me, the rate 'gain of power'/'price' didn't seems me to be the best, and the result not certain.
(Even if the T8100 are not so expensive at all... )

However, I'd like to know if the core type is important or not.
I mean, if the GL960 is "Penryn" upgradable or "Merom" only???

 

core type is very important.. but the major factors you MUST consider are your

1) CPU SOCKET TYPE (must use pin compatible CPU)
2) BIOS SUPPORT FOR CORE TYPE (you BIOS needs to be compatible with the CPU)

consider those 2 issues and you will be covered

i'm not up on all the CORE names... it's hard enough keeping #s and socket type filed away

 

The thread is a bit old but i only want add another successful upgrade:

Acer Aspire 4320

Original Processor: M530 1.73GHz/533MHz/1MB (SLA2G)
Upgrade to: T7100 1.80GHz/800MHz/2MB (SLA4A)

Original RAM: 512MB 533MHz
Upgrade to: 2GB 667MHz

And both Everest & Bios still report chipset as GL960 but processor is working fine at 800MHz Bus with normal speedstep and RAM works at 667MHz speed another thing battery life is longer that before, temperature processor is about 10C less.

Thanks.

 

And another successful upgrade here:

Acer Travelmate 7320

Original Processor: M530 1.73GHz/533MHz/1MB
Upgrade to: T7300

Original RAM: 1024MB
Upgrade to: 2GB@667MHz

 

Hi everyone.

I'm just curious as to the upgrades. Somewhere on the net, I read about processor swaps and all that and there was a major discussion about the FSB. For the life of me, I can't remember where that forum was but I recalled the discussion after reading this thread.

There was a general consensus that the processor FSB was limited by the motherboard and if the FSB could be changed on the motherboard to match that of the processor, then the upgrade will work at the rated frequency.

It continued to state that in the event the FSB could not be changed on the motherboard, then the processor would run at its multiplier x motherboard FSB, regardless of what the benchmarks or monitors (i.e. Evererst) were showing. An example it gave was that for a T7800 which is a 2.6Ghz/800Mhz FSB, its multiplier is 2600/800 = 3.25. If you plugged that processor into a motherboard with 533Mhz, it would run in 533 x 3.25 = 1732.25 ~1.73Ghz only, but since it's a core2duo with 4MB cache, it will outperform the previously installed processor (which is assumed to be a lesser, 533Mhz model) in all aspects and run cooler to boot.

That was the gist of the topic there, I'm not sure if those people were going in the right direction.

I myself am looking to replace my T2390 with a T7800 on my GL960.

Any light to shed on this? I would really be grateful for proper info on this issue. Thanks in advance.

 

What notebook do you have ?

And, the multiplier is 3.25*4=13. Because the FSB is Quad-Pumped, so the actual FSB clock is 200MHz (800/4). So, 2600/200=13 --> Core/Bus Ratio or simply multiplier.

 

Thanks for the multiplier clarification, Andy.

I have the Satellite L-300 with the GL960 chipset.

 

Still in new systems apply this ?

Because i remember that in Pentium III motherboard with 100 MHz support only, i had a 1.0 GHz 133 MHz Bus processor working fine but speed was 750 MHz (100 MHz x 7.5).

 

Hi!

I have readed carefully this thread, in the hope of understand what is wrong with my girlfriend laptop..

The laptop is a Toshiba satellite l40-psl48e, with a T2310(1.46/1M/533) and with 2x1gb DDR2 667 upgraded by me. I have made some rechearch and found that the chipset(GL960) was 800fsb capable, so i brought a T6570 2.1/2M/800) for a very nice price. So a instaled the processor, and the laptop freezes at post screen, right after the usb initialization is done.

What would you guys think the problem is?

Is the divider between fsb and ram causing the freeze because the fsb(800) is higher than the ram speed(667)? With the old CPU the fsb was 533 and the ram was setted at 533 also...


Is simply the laptop unable to boot up due to bios limitation?

Is there any specific issue with this CPU and some chipsets, and theofore the reason why i brought it so cheat?

I wish the problem lies in the low speed ram, so i can solve it by simply buying a new set of memories.


cheers[[]]

 

Maybe there are other chipsets that have similar sockets in which your Bios is also compatible with, but the odds are slim and the risk is a bit high experimenting with your laptops board.

 

I thought doing that.. but like you said is too risky. If at least there were any information about that i could give it a shoot. But it seems this model is extremly unpopular.

 

Hi

I've got a HP 6720s which was running a Celeron M540

I've upgraded it to a T5250 and have trouble with video drivers.

This occurs on Vista and windows 7.

Here are grabs from CPUz





Any help would be appreciated.

I've seen people on here using a T5450, would this spec wise run any different to a T5250??

 

Maybe if you explained the trouble with your video drivers? Just maybe?

 

The laptop always takes 2 reboots before booting correctly. i.e. video corruption first time. then blue screen then boots ok.

Didn't do this with the celeron

 

Hi,
I have the same problem with a HP 550. After replacing the Celeron with either a T5870 (FSB800) or a T5250 (FSB667), it takes 2 bootups to work fine (first bootup -> graphic hangs -> bluescreen (disappears very quickly... seems lika an issue with igxprd32.dll) after reboot everything works fine). This only appears with 32 bit color depth, with 16 bit bootup works fine, after switching manualy to 32bit -> crash -> reboot, then works fine again. Same problem after wakeup from standby: book crashes -> bluescreen -> reboot -> system works stable.

 

Yep thats the issue, am still trying to source a T5450 to try, I believe this should work.

 

I don't, but have a try. I think a T2410 or any other FSB533 CPU should work.

 

i have a hp 550 with gl960 am awaiting ram to upgrade that but am wondering what processor i can upgrade to and what i need to do to upgrade

many thanks

 

I upgraded my CPU from a Merom Celeron M530 1.7 GHz 533 bus with an Intel Core2Duo T7100 at 1.8 GHz bus 800 chipset GL960
worked in the first, hopefully not this ... but works fine