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    GL960 Chipset Processor Upgradability

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by michacerboy, Jan 25, 2008.

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    3gb (2+1) dual channel symmetric, (GL960_Intel T7700) [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    I'm yet to see an instance where memory support was increased without incorporating support for dual-core processors, so I would say it's a strong indication that you'll be fine with at least any Merom Core2 Duo. Penryn support is unknown. From past experiences, CPU-Z is reporting PGA479, but it in fact means Socket P (PGA478). There were no 479-pin packages for the Core2 era; only a 479-ball package used by some standard-voltage chips, and all low-voltage and ultra-low-voltage models.

    Models of particular interest to you, are the Core2 Duo T5900, T7500, T7700 and T7800. If you're willing to jump ahead and try Penryn with very little details in the way of support, look out for a Core2 Duo T8300, T9300 and T9500. The latter is likely twice as expensive as the T9300, while offering just an extra 100 MHz (or ~4% more performance).

    The 3 GiB configuration will still grant you dual-channel mode, providing you grab two modules at the same frequency. The chipset will be limited to DDR2-667, but will support DDR2-800 and underclock it. Aim no higher than DDR2-800. You can pair two identical modules together (differing in only memory size), but it's not necessary.
     
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    I will try to install dual 2x4GB DDR2-800 to see if mine is a "fake" GM965 or not. So far T9500 working great, with RMClock and undervolt to 1.1v, run like a champ and whisper cool (ofc using IC7 paste first :p )
    BTW, can we using the hw ID (2A02, 2A03,....) to find out if the chipset is GL960 or GM965?
    BTW, I advise that anybody should update their microcode for stability because mine was buggy with stock out of the box on T9500, updated microcode and no more bugs. I will update a guide with latest microcode here (Penryn only)
     
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    And how am I interested to update the microcode if it is not in the BIOS? There is no microcode support for the T9300, T9500.
     
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    Two 4 GiB modules will most likely result in blue screens, even with a GM965. There are only a select few models which support more than 4 GiB with that chipset. 3 GiB is the maximum for a modified GL960 chipset, and just 2 GiB for a standard GL960.

    The hardware ID is identical for the entire family, so GL960 and GM965 will both have the same revision, whether it's 2A02, 2A03 or 2A12. Unlike AMD chipsets, you can consider the IDs for Intel's chipsets as a family identifier, rather than a specific chipset model identifier.

    I would also advise to update the BIOS, if one is available.


    If there is no microcode support for Penryn (10676 and 1067A) then you're not going to be able to use Penryn.
     
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    Mine already running 4GB here on Windows with the supposedly "fake" chip one. Some said GL960 can take up to 5GB and GM965 up to 8GB so maybe worth a try.
    Here is the latest microcode for Penryn (10676), sideload via Windows (helpful for anyone who's running Penryn with old BIOS and old Penryn-minimal supported buggy microcode). Version 612h dated 2015, extended life cycle version. Not like old version 610h dated back in 2011 included in latest Intel microcode public library. Enjoy. Just unzip, run install.bat with admin rights and reboot. You can check microcode version using tools like AIDA64. https://files.fm/u/w8zvacak
     
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    The forum user that mentioned 5 GiB is the only person I've seen with such a configuration working. Just like there are models out there with support for 8 GiB for the GM965. I doubt it's commonplace, but hey, of course you can try. DDR2 can't be any more expensive than DDR4 at this point. :biglaugh:
     
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    Haha, that ram price now... Anyway the good thing here is i can try it and refund if it doesnt work. And i can trade my 2GB sticks for 4GBs with some extra cash.
     
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    All good. Give it a shot.
     
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    How does "10676-612-windows" work, if it does not even contain the microcodes?
    You can give a detailed description "10676-612-windows".
     
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    It does have microcode file inside, "microcode.dat"
     
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    Then why does the "intelmicrocodelist" program not read it?
     
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    Hello all. I've spent the last 5 or 6 hours scouring this thread and other places on the net with an interest in reviving my old Extensa 5620z. My goal is to turn it into a media/browsing machine for my livingroom.

    The fact that it came with a T2370 processor leads me to believe I have a nice, upgradeable, "bastard" GL960 chipset. I have a good idea of what I want to do, but I have a few questions to ask the experts around here.

    Right now its so slow and poorly maintained its almost unusable. So step 1 is to ditch Vista and start fresh with Win 7 64bit. So my first question is, is Win 7 the right choice for a new OS? I know there's only about 1.5 years left of support, but I don't know if Win 8.1 will perform as well. That and Win 8 is just icky. I miss Win 2000.

    Next comes the processor, and question 2:

    Does the T9300 have any significant advantage over the T7800? They have nearly identical benchmarks, and the T7800 is cheaper and allows me to stick with a Merom processor, with no worries about BIOS updating. Am I missing something?

    Question 3: I want to upgrade from 2GB RAM to 3GB. I've read that the memory frequency should match the FSB, but I've also read of people having problems with high frequency memory and this chipset. What would be the best option, 533, 667, or 800? Do the two modules need to be the same frequency? Also, I only read the first 30 pages of the thread- has anyone managed to get this chipset to run 4GB RAM? If so, what's the secret?

    Question 3: Is there any point in investing in a SSD with a SATA 1 interface?

    I also plan on getting a USB 3 express54 card. Not a question, I'm just stoked about it :)

    Thanks in advance for all your help!
     
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    Hi there! Welcome to the forum!

    1. Usually I would advise against using Windows 7 now, but with such older systems, they may not always sufficiently meet the requirements for Windows 8.1 or 10. I know for a fact that in its current state, it won't cut it, but with any Core2 Duo it will meet the minimum. My main concern actually is the "graphics solution," if you can even call it that. Intel's drivers are atrocious and they haven't gotten better with time either. Since the GM965 family doesn't support Windows Display Driver Model 1.3, Windows 8.1 and 10 will fall to basic drivers only. This may have some unwanted results, if you're hoping to use the OS fully as you would with Windows 7.

    2. 'Penryn' uses smaller 45-nanometer transistors and will therefore run cooler. This may be important to you if your machine's fan can get a little noisy, but it will also help with prolonging Intel Dynamic Acceleration. As a point of reference, the T9300 in my machine runs at a very cool 26°C idle (21°C ambient), and 40°C under load. I use Antec Formula 7 thermal paste.

      The additional cache may also help with cache-bound workloads. For everyday computing (web browsing and email) you're not going to notice this. At the end of the day, the 50% larger cache (versus the T7800) simply means that more program data can be stored in a more convenient spot for the processor. Cache is much, much faster than system memory, especially when comparing to DDR2.

      Roughly speaking and according to my tests, you're looking at a difference between the two models of around 5.6%, bearing in mind that the T9300 is clocked 100 MHz lower. It's at times like this that I wish the newer version of my debugger was ready as it would help greatly, but I'm still working on it, sadly. Still, if I can be of any assistance, please do ask.

    3. We're assuming that this is (almost) a GM965 in disguise, based purely on the processor choice. Now, the T2370 is a 533 MT/s FSB processor, and while I haven't (yet) seen any situation where processor support was more than Celeron M, while retaining the same FSB limitation, it is a possibility. I mean, who really knows how many combinations of this chip exist, right?

      Anyway, to answer your question, memory frequency doesn't strictly have to match the front-side bus, but in a situation where the processor has a faster bus transfer rate, you will want to grab identical memory so that the processor isn't waiting for data. However, there is one scenario when this simply isn't possible and that's when you have an 800 MT/s FSB processor such as the T7800 or T9300, and you pair it with DDR2-667 memory. You can buy and install DDR2-800 memory, but because the GM965 family doesn't support this speed, all modules will be underclocked to 667 MT/s. The best you're going to get is DDR2-800 operating below its specification (thanks Intel), so if you can find DDR2-667 and there's a reasonable price difference, you might as well go for that instead.

      Both modules don't need to match in transfer rate, but be warned that the faster of the pair will be underclocked to match the slower module. And there have been users that have had greater than 3 GiB of memory booting without blue screens. I believe the magic behind it is with the memory ranks. It's definitely something very specific (it may even require specific modules), and I'm fairly sure that it won't be achievable for most users.

    4. With 150 MiB/s, you could probably get away with some cheap SSD, but I definitely would advise against grabbing something like a Samsung 850 EVO unless you plan on using it for another machine in the future. 150 MiB/s from an SSD is still most likely twice as fast as your current hard drive, and it will help with Windows boot times and GUI-heavy programs.

      What I'll say is that you'll almost certainly notice the difference going from the hard drive to the SSD, than say either of your processor upgrades. I/O is always the weak link in a computer, especially machines as old as this.

    I hope I've answered everything for you. Feel free to send in more questions, I'm happy to help! :)
     
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    Wow, thanks alot! I sure wish I would have found your website earlier, I might have got some sleep last night. One more question:

    My BIOS version is Phoenix 1.32. Do I need to update it for a penryn processor?
     
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    Oh yeah, one more thing. What exactly do you mean by "use the OS fully" with respect to the graphics issue with Windows 8.1/10? I'm basically looking to watch movies (.mp4, .mkv, etc) with some variety of HDMI adapter connected to my TV, do a little browsing, maybe some streaming, and possibly run some classic video game emulators (SNES, Gameboy Advanced, DS). I have a fairly new i5 for heavy lifting applications.
     
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    Sadly, I have no tool that can display microcode within Phoenix BIOSes. The BIOS is dated December 8, 2008, so there's a good chance that it includes Penryn support (released in January 2008). In general, it's usually a good idea to keep your BIOS up to date.


    Older graphics solutions such as the GMA X3100 will only receive basic driver support from Microsoft. Intel's drivers are unlikely to work as Intel dropped support after Windows 7. Normally, you'd be able to use Windows 7 drivers with Windows 10 just fine, but for the graphics driver, it works a little differently when the requirements are not met. The GM965 family supports the essential minimum of Windows Display Driver Model 1.0, but since it has no support for 1.3, it will run a basic display driver. If you've ever installed a Windows operating system, and the first couple of screens you see are completely the wrong resolution, that's the basic display driver. So you may run into some resolution problems.
     
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    And I advice anyone to get one of the Firecuda SSHD if you cant afford SSD and want big space. Or went full 7200rpm WD Black if you cant stand the cache on SSHD. Much faster than those old 5400rpm OEM WD Blue and Seagate Momentus crap pre-installed.
    And you could request the professionals on WinRaid and BIOS-Mods forum to mod your own BIOS. Less risk than modding on your own
     
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    Thanks for that comprehensive reply! I'll update in here once the chip arrives if it works or not Many thanks
     
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    No problem. Glad I could help. All the best. :)
     
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    CPUID 10676 doesnt have Plat 07, but you could insert both 10676 microcodes into BIOS or update via Windows. It works anyway (Im running ver 612 on T9500 without issue)
    FYI, the latest microcode right now for Penryn: 612 for plat 04/40, 60F/610 for plat 44 and 60C for plat 54
     
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    There is a microcode CPUID 10676 for Plat 7 - "cpu00010676_plat00000080_ver0000060f_date20100929" and for CPUID 1067A is also there - "cpu0001067a_plat000000a0_ver00000a0b_date20100928"
     
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    I made a modified version of the BIOS, but did not apply, I'm not sure that everything is done correctly.
    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    So I'm concerned the T9300 I ordered won't work in my acer extensa 4220 laptop The current cpu states intel celeron 530 single core. However looking at pictures on Google the pin layout under the 530 appears different to the T9300. Are there two variations of the 530 cpu? Cpuz stated it was socket GL960 so does that mean the t9300 should still fit? I'm away so can't physically check. Thanks
     
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    Yes, there are two versions of celeron 530. One for socket M and another for socket P. T9300 will definitely fit into the socket.
     
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    OK thanks very much. I ordered a t7200 just incase it was the other socket, it was only £4 if it doesn't fit.
     
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    You do this: Install AIDA64 and find out the following things - the name of the chipset and what FSB speeds it supports (you need FSB800 for the T9300), what type of memory and frequency it supports. Also find out (motherboard - CPU - physical information - body type). For the T9300, there must be a (FSB800, DDR2-667 (or 533) SDRAM), there must be a Socket P (478 Pin PGA), then find out if your BIOS has the required microcode for the T9300 (010676). If it does not, look in the new BIOS on the official website, if it's not there, then the T9300 will not work, even if everything else is right. To know the microcode list in the BIOS, downloaded from the BIOS site, use the program "intelmicrocodelist".To do this, you need to drag the file with microcodes to the program intelmicrocodelist, the result is a command line in which there will be a list of microcodes (010676 is needed). You need to get this - [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    Got my T9300 installed in my Acer extensa 4220 laptop, was a complete success. I updated the bios prior to installation, I think v1.33 was latest. It's now running 3gb ram and windows 10 64bit. Works a treat. One thing of note though is the fan doesn't seem to spin up till cpu gets to around 70c...highest I've seen is 75c. is this normal? Thanks
     
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    Honestly, that's not normal behavior. Typically, a T9300 under load will reach mid-40s at most, but it does entirely depend on each individual system's cooling configuration. Is your Windows power plan configured correctly?
     
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    Hi DylRicho, how are alive and well?

    Tell me if you know.

    Maybe you remember ... a year ago we talked about how I wanted to fix the BIOS for my laptop, install new and update old versions of microcodes, and that’s all to install a new Intel Core 2 Duo T9500 processor to replace my "Intel Core 2 Duo T7700".
    You, like all other thinking people in this, dissuaded me from this idea, so the laptop will not work like a “brick under the Christmas tree”.
    I updated the BIOS. Everything turned out perfectly, the T7700 works even better, quickly, it does not heat up, but now the temperature in the room is 22C, not 28C, as in summer.
    Everything was done with one goal: to put a new cold processor.
    On a T7700 processor (2x2.400, architecture 65 nm), but I would like to change it to T9300 (2x2.500, architecture 45 nm), because of the smaller architecture, it heats up less than approximately (15-20) C,

    I put a new T9300, but there is one “but”, multiplayer in the BIOS is on, and the frequency of Intel Core 2 Duo T9500 does not change, the minimum performance mode is set to - (2x1.200 GHz), and the multiplier is 6 (6-12.5), voltage 1v from (1-1.225) in, and their values depending on the load does not change.

    I installed the program “ThrottleStop”, the multiplayer started working as it should, changing the frequency value, but the voltage went max (1.225v) and does not change depending on the load, as a result of which the processor on the motherboard does not overheat and the power chips overheat.
    The Intel Core 2 Duo T9500 bought the old one, so there is a suspicion that it is trotling.
    In connection with all the above, the question arises - if the processor, previously obtained trotling when installed on another laptop will work without trotling?
    And how can I fix this?

    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
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    It sounds like the unofficial BIOS lacks support for Intel Enhanced SpeedStep technology (EIST). Your chipset appears to support it, which is why the original T7700 worked.

    The CPU will work pegged at 2.60 GHz just fine. I can't say how long it will last as they are already decade-old parts, and no one really knows how they were treated beforehand. However, all CPUs are tested to run under full load for a considerable amount of time before they are approved with meeting the specification. Under these conditions, the T9500 would be operating at the same variables as your own.

    Perhaps find someone capable of modding the BIOS to ensure that nothing was broken with respect to EIST.
     
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    Yes, but finding such a specialist is a problem.
    I think, maybe the processor is not fully functional, I bought an old T9300 processor.
    If the processor on one laptop entered the "Throttle", on the other laptop the same processor will work fine, or will it also "Throttle"?
    ...................
    I have two versions - 1) not fully working processor (Throttle) - this means you need to replace it with a new one. 2) the correct operation of the processor on the motherboard is not supported - this means that the processor will never work correctly.

    What do you think?
     
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    I'm not sure if I'm understanding this correctly, but it sounds like you have two processors that are depicting the same issue. The fact that these are used parts shouldn't be a problem.

    Do you have the option to move back to the BIOS you were using beforehand? Were you using the T7700 with the older BIOS?
     
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    Now the laptop has a new BIOS installed, with the new BIOS the T7700 processor works fine, and the T9300 processor does not work well (the multiplier and voltage do not change). I have a suggestion that -
    1) the problem is in the quality of the T9300 processor, since I bought it not with a new one.
    2) or maybe this T9300 processor is not supported by the motherboard chipset
    [​IMG]

    How do you think?
     
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    Usually when something like this happens and the front-side bus is correct, and EIST is supported, it's down to the BIOS not supporting the processor correctly. You should get the same result with a T9500, or any Penryn processor for that matter.

    Perhaps try a Pentium T4200, if you can. It is the cheapest Penryn CPU on the market, and has a different CPUID. That's the only way to know for sure.
     
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    I have already done this, I tried to install T4200 it on a laptop. The result is negative. The laptop turns on, a BIOS startup image appears, and on this, the picture freezes, it is not possible to enter the BIOS, and the OS does not boot. You can turn off only by pressing the power button for 7 seconds.
     
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    T2410? Is that with the original BIOS, or the custom BIOS? Because that's a Merom processor, and it should have a higher chance of working versus any Penryn processor. I can see the microcode for the T2410 in that Command Prompt window you have shown in this post. Not sure whether that's the original BIOS or not.

    The last thing I can think of, is perhaps check Windows Power Settings with the T9300/T9500, just to make sure that the CPU isn't being artificially limited by Windows. If your power mode is set to 'high performance' and you haven't changed any of the settings for it, it's safe to assume that Windows isn't the problem.

    Honestly, it's starting to look like Penryn just isn't an option, if Merom upgrades aren't working.
     
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    I did not write the label correctly (in a hurry). Not T2410 but T4200, which also has a Penryn core.
    (In my previous post I corrected it.)
    Now I use a modified BIOS, it has newer versions of microcodes. This is the one in the photo above. And the CPU (T7700) on the new BIOS works better, it is colder.
    The power settings in the OS are set correctly.
    I have a feeling that CPUs with the "Penryn" core do not fit.
    This is the original old BIOS [​IMG]
    This is a new modified BIOS (it is installed now) [​IMG]
    Here tests CPU T7700 at 100% load with new microcodes [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
    In the new microcodes, the fan speed was slightly increased, the processor became colder with a large load.
     
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  41. Alexrose1uk

    Alexrose1uk Music, Media, Game

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    Got an old Sony in hand, an NR38E, running it through a round of cheap upgrades for the father in law:
    1) SSD -> 120GB SSD installed successfully
    2) Processor - T2390 stock, upgrading to T9300 - WORKING PERFECTLY
    3) RAM - 2GB to 3GB FAILED :(

    This one was unfortunate; the stick detects in BIOS but the machine locks up instantly trying to get into Windows, or around 33% into the first test in if I try to run memtest; which I'm guessing is likely to be the chipset; and not the stick of RAM. That said the RAM wouldnt run by itself either so Ive not dismissed it may just be faulty.
    If I had alternate sticks I'd try swapping to see if it was compatible, but can't justify buying more to test something that simply may not work.

    I checked with Aida64 and 800FSB is listed as detected supported by the chipset, and the BIOS date is a month or two after Penryn's official release date, so I'm hoping the T2390 -> T9300 will be more successful. With 32bit Win 10 and an SSD, that should still be relatively decent for light browsing etc :)
     
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  42. Alexrose1uk

    Alexrose1uk Music, Media, Game

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    Well update:
    The T9300 is working perfectly; so I seem to potentially have a genuine GL960 chipset that also has the microcode and support for faster CPUs, OR the 2GB RAM stick I got was duff.

    But genuinely pleased about the T9300, it is noticeably faster and more responsive, and checking CPU-Z, IDA and EIST appear to be working perfectly. I also note the 2GB RAM is now running 667MHz, whereas before I am sure it was running 533... Penryn is doing its thing also, as the laptop seems to be running cooler as the fan isn't ramping up as much. The 10 year old thermal paste was so dry I had to scour it off, so that cannot have been helping the T2390 either...

    On the back of this; I may try ordering another 2GB stick. Is a 400/533 more likely to work than another 667 or 800 SODIMM (the one that didn't work was 667)?
     
  43. Alkazar

    Alkazar Newbie

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    Hi there, I would like to share my journey with you upgrading my old laptop to compete even with 2019s low ends.

    I have an old Acer Extensa 5220

    Thanks to DylRicho and his debugger https://dylricho.com/tools/gl960-debugger/. I was able to figure out that my chipset is a fake GL960.

    Thanks to Reiph for the maximum RAM Supported
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...or-upgradability.212097/page-41#post-10575853

    OLD SPECS
    Intel core M550 (1C/1T)
    1 GB RAM
    Windows XP
    HDD 50GB

    NEW SPECS
    Intel Core 2 Duo T9500 (2C/2T)
    5 GB DDR2 RAM (4+1 GB)
    Windows 10
    SSD 250GB
    + new 100Mbps mini PCI-e network card

    System specs screenshot:
    https://imgur.com/a/xzQjiF0

    The laptop is now blazing fast. Pulling a score of 1926 in Passmark Performance Test 9 and 447/216 in CPU-Z benchmark
     
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  44. DylRicho

    DylRicho Notebook Consultant

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    Hmm... If that module turns out to be fine and not faulty, that will be a new discovery. I will make a note of this and do some more research, should that be the case.

    I'm happy that you're now able to take advantage of dual-core Penryn.


    Yikes. The OEMs don't do any favors for these machines.


    Please do keep us informed on how it goes. From what I've seen, DDR2-667 modules are the most likely to work, and given that even the top-end GM965/PM965 chipsets scale DDR2-800 back to 667 MT/s, it's essentially no performance loss whatsoever.


    That's great news. Thank you for the post, and you're most welcome for the tool. There's a better version currently in the works.

    Incidentally, I've been wanting to upgrade my laptop to Windows 10 for my uncle who now uses the laptop. How are the GL960 GPU drivers with Windows 10? Are you able to get native 1280 x 800 resolution, as I know these drivers don't support the correct version of Windows Display Driver Model.

    Dylan
     
  45. Alkazar

    Alkazar Newbie

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    I had no problem whatsoever with graphics driver. Is is running natively at 1280x800 right out of the bat as all other drivers. The only driver that is not existent is bluetooth driver. I was not able to find it anywhere, so only bluetooth is not working.
     
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  46. Reiph

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    Good news, everyone ! :vbsmile:

    Core 2 Extreme X9000 works with GL960 on ASUS X58L ( with BIOS 203 - Latest )
    (X51L motherboard rev. 2.1)

    boot.jpg BIOS_Menu.jpg
     
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  47. Reiph

    Reiph Newbie

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    The only thing that is not working - is Intel SpeedStep technology

    And because of it - the CPU is always :

    - at max multiplier x14
    - and at 2.80 GHz speed

    But,
    The temperature is normal,
    Here is the screenshot with different tests :



    Desktop_Screenshot.png
     
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  48. kit0001

    kit0001 Notebook Enthusiast

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    So I got a similar situation.

    Multiplayer is not working for T9300, but helped the program «ThrottleStop» multiplayer included, but the voltage of the CPU is not changed in accordance with a change in frequency and remain as it does not suit me.
    I had to roll back to the old T7700.
     
  49. Josea_iag

    Josea_iag Newbie

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    Did you have to make a BIOS MOD previously in order to start with your T9500? Apparently you had the original BIOS and updated the microcodes later. So the T9500 seems to be started with the original one (R1121Q0). Then with the T9500 already running, you updated the microcodes under the Microsoft Windows operating system. Is this correct? Have you done of this way? Can you explain the process you did?

    I mention it because I am going to upgrade a Sony Vaio VGN-CR21S almost identical to yours that has the same BIOS, and with the MC Extractor the microcode for that CPU (10676) does not appear in the list..... This is what comes out in the original R1121Q0 Sony BIOS used by both laptops:

    ╔═══════════════════════════════════════════╗
    ║ MC Extractor v1.42.1 r142 ║
    ╚═══════════════════════════════════════════╝

    ╔══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╗
    ║ Intel ║
    ╠───┬───────┬─────────────┬──────────┬────────────┬──────┬────────┬─────────┬──────╣
    ║ # │ CPUID │ Platform ID │ Revision │ Date │ Type │ Size │ Offset │ Last ║
    ╠───┼───────┼─────────────┼──────────┼────────────┼──────┼────────┼─────────┼──────╣
    ║ 1 │ 10661 │ 80 (7) │ 33 │ 2007-03-16 │ PRD │ 0x1000 │ 0x31000 │ No ║
    ╠───┼───────┼─────────────┼──────────┼────────────┼──────┼────────┼─────────┼──────╣
    ║ 2 │ 6F5 │ 80 (7) │ 38 │ 2006-07-25 │ PRD │ 0x1000 │ 0x32000 │ Yes ║
    ╠───┼───────┼─────────────┼──────────┼────────────┼──────┼────────┼─────────┼──────╣
    ║ 3 │ 6F9 │ 80 (7) │ 83 │ 2006-09-28 │ PRD │ 0x1000 │ 0x33000 │ Yes ║
    ╠───┼───────┼─────────────┼──────────┼────────────┼──────┼────────┼─────────┼──────╣
    ║ 4 │ 6FA │ 80 (7) │ 92 │ 2007-03-13 │ PRD │ 0x1000 │ 0x34000 │ No ║
    ╠───┼───────┼─────────────┼──────────┼────────────┼──────┼────────┼─────────┼──────╣
    ║ 5 │ 6FB │ 80 (7) │ B3 │ 2007-03-14 │ PRD │ 0x1000 │ 0x35000 │ No ║
    ╠───┼───────┼─────────────┼──────────┼────────────┼──────┼────────┼─────────┼──────╣
    ║ 6 │ 6FD │ 80 (7) │ A1 │ 2007-03-13 │ PRD │ 0x1000 │ 0x36000 │ No ║
    ╠───┼───────┼─────────────┼──────────┼────────────┼──────┼────────┼─────────┼──────╣
    ║ 7 │ 6EC │ 80 (7) │ 5B │ 2007-02-08 │ PRD │ 0x1000 │ 0x37000 │ Yes ║
    ╚═══╩═══════╩═════════════╩══════════╩════════════╩══════╩════════╩═════════╩══════╝
     
  50. Josea_iag

    Josea_iag Newbie

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    I have opned a new post with the win-raid.com guys in oder to understand why a BIOS without microcodes is able to start an official unsoported CPU:

    https://www.win-raid.com/t6493f54-Sony-Vaio-VGN-CR-S-Microcode-to-Support-Intel-Core-Duo-T-1.html
     
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