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    GL960 Chipset Processor Upgradability

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by michacerboy, Jan 25, 2008.

  1. thedozyone

    thedozyone Newbie

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    I finally received my T2390 today (1.86GHz CoreDuo 533 FSB 1MB Cache)

    Installed it in the HP and now the laptop runs absolutely fine!

    No reboots, no dodgy video bootup.

    ;)
     
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    I succesfully solved the problem by installing PC4200-memory instead of PC-5300. No more reboots with my T5250 (FSB667). Will also try a T5870 (FSB800).
     
  3. mepf

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    My T5870 now also runs fine with the PC2-4200 memory installed.
     
  4. aaron7

    aaron7 Notebook Consultant

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    I have the Acer 4315 and I've been running the T5750 for 6 months now without issue.

    Battery life is the same as my Celeron and the fan rarely comes on.

    I am looking to see what the fastest chip I can run is! X9000? Hope so!
     
  5. kisetsu17

    kisetsu17 Took me long enough

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    I'm not sure with the X9000, but it'll be pretty neat if it were compatible!

    Just a news, though, I managed to put in a T5800 (2Ghz/800mhz fsb/2mb L2) in a GL960-equipped Acer Extensa 4620Z. Seen here. Another proof that the GL960 doesn't accept just 533mhz or 667mhz CPU's. :D
     
  6. di11avou

    di11avou Newbie

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    Hi guys.

    I have a Toshiba L45 with the GL960 chipset and a t2310 cpu. I wanted to upgrade the processor so I picked up a t7700 after reading the success stories on this site.

    After installing the new processsor, the only way I can get the computer to boot into windows is to disable the 'Dynamic CPU Frequency Mode' in the bios. And even then, the cpu only runs at half speed (6x multiplier instead of 12x).

    I've tried switching my 6400 ram to some 5300 I had sitting around, but it didn't change anything.

    Does anyone know what my problem might be?
     
  7. mepf

    mepf Newbie

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    @di11avou: Try 4200 RAM (FSB533) as GL960 only supports FSB533! Switching from 6400 (FSB800) to 5300 (FSB667) would have no effect on stability!
     
  8. di11avou

    di11avou Newbie

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    Thanks mepf. I didn't think switching between 6400 and 5300 would make much of a difference, but thought I'd try it since I had it laying around.

    I don't really have stability issues though. It boots and runs fine after changing the bios settings, just at half the speed it should.
     
  9. Judicator

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    I think that disabling 'Dynamic CPU Frequency Mode' locks your processor at it's lowest multiplier, which I think is the 6x you're getting.
     
  10. di11avou

    di11avou Newbie

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    After doing a bit of google searching, I think you might be right. I wonder if the cpu is getting too hot with Dynamic CPU enabled. Too bad my bios doesn't show that information. Is there any way to see temps without getting into windows?
     
  11. pater

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    Hi guys,

    I'm from Hungary and found your discussion about GL960 shipset. I bought a Thinkpad R61e with Celeron M540 last year and could upgrade to T5670 (800FSB, 2 Mb cache) yesterday. Much better than the old celeron :D

    I had no problem with vista, it just installed the new driver for core2duo and done.

    Thanks for the tips and experiences you shared on this forum ;)
     
  12. nimppa

    nimppa Newbie

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    How about the heatsink? I have Acer Extensa 5220 with the Intel Celeron Mobile 530 and GL960 chipset. I want to upgrade to t5250 or t5450 but I wondered if the heatsink I'm now having will keep the new cpu cool enough?
     
  13. nimppa

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    Anyone?? :confused:
     
  14. nimppa

    nimppa Newbie

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    So I installed the T5450 to my extensa 5220 and all my laptop does after i've pushed the power button it that it tries to boot, the screen remains dark and it just boots, stays on about 10 seconds and boots again. Help!!
     
  15. naton

    naton Notebook Virtuoso

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    Check that the CPU socket lock is turned all the way.

    The GL960 accepts all socket P CPUs that have an FSB of 200Mhz or less. I myself tested a pentium dual core T2370 in my friends Acer aspire 4315 laptop before upgrading it to a C2D T7300. My Friend has been using his laptop with the T7300 for the last 6-8 months and so far he hasn't experienced any problem.

    If you still have a problem with the T5450 then put the celeron back and check that your laptop is in a full working order. If your laptop is fine with the celeron but not with the T5450 then:
    1- Your T5450 is faulty or
    2- You need to upgrade your laptop BIOS. Few things you should know; a) it safer to upgrade your bios under DOS. Doing it under Windows is not risk free. b) If you mess up a bios upgrade you will end up with a brick, so be carefull, or get someone who knows to do it for you.
     
  16. thinkpad knows best

    thinkpad knows best Notebook Deity

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    It does not take a genius to do a BIOS reflash, it could be corrupt when it's on a diskette or in .exe form... IMO it's just as likely to go wrong whether it's diskette or in the OS environment.
     
  17. nimppa

    nimppa Newbie

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    Ok, thanks for answers! The problem is I don't know how to update my bios... The current version is Phoenix 1.35 and I have no idea where to get a version that supports core2duo...

    Later...

    Well I managed to install the cpu again and it works! Yay!
     
  18. Daves03

    Daves03 Newbie

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    I hope im not bumping in on anyone but im wondering if someone could point me in the right direction.

    I have a toshiba satellite L45-S7409 notebook and im wanting to upgrade the CPU to the fastest processor i can get.

    This is the information i got off of the toshiba website for my computer

    Intel® Pentium® dual-core processor T2310

    1.46GHz, 2MB L2, 533MHz FSB
    Mobile Intel® GL960 Express Chipset

    If someone could please point me in the right direction i would surely appreciate it.

    I would like to get into somewhere around the 2.4 GHz speeds if possible.

    Also in the CPU-Z it shows
    Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU T2310 @ 1.46GHz
    so im guessing im going to have to replace with a dual core processor
     
  19. naton

    naton Notebook Virtuoso

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    Any intel socket P CPU with an FSB less or equale to 800Mhz should do.

    The T7300 is a good option as you can get one in ebay for around £35 to £40.

    If you're willing to spend more then the T9300 and T9500 are your best options.

    EDIT:
    Why do you want to change your CPU? I mean does your laptop feel that slow? For most task the T2310 is more than a capable CPU. You'll benefit only and only if you do CPU intensive tasks such as gaming, rendering, video and photo editing. I know that you can't really game with your laptop because of your poor graphics card so?!
     
  20. nobboo

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    Hi all,

    Somebody susscessfully with Lenovo 3000 G410.
    My spec:
    T7500 ES
    Chipset GL960
    Ram: 1Gb, 512MB x 2 PC5300

    But it alway run with FSB 533 :confused: :confused: (see pic)

    Don't ask me Why T7500 ES, because i buy from another people.

    Maybe is T7500 ES is trouble, maybe BIOS (i can't found newest BIOS on lenovo site), maybe ....

    Pls help me.
    Thanks
    (sorry about my English)
     

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  21. naton

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    I'm too lazy to read the whole thread. Any socket P CPU with an FSB of 133, 155, or 200 (i.e. 533, 667, or 800) will work on the Acer Aspire 4315.

    I've personally tested a T2370 (FSB 133/533), a T5250 (FSB 166/667), a T7250 (FSB 200/800) and T7300 (FSB 200/800) on the acer 4315.

    The T7300 has been used by a friend of mine (I helped with the upgrade) for over a year. I had the T5250 running on mine for about 6 months before upgrading to the T7250 :)

    The Acer 4315 is a great laptop. The only thing that lets it down is the weak X3100 intel GPU.
     
  22. holyone

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    uppgraded mu HP 550 Notebook

    from Celeron 530>> T7500
    633 Mhz (2Gb)>>> 533 (2Gb)

    No GFX error what so ever all runs fine ,, 633 Mhz memory makes it rebot 2 times with gfx error

    works finr with

    Windows 7
    Windows Xp Professional
    Windows Vista Home

    so far :D

    Laptop Spec : (stock)

    120 GB Sata 5400 Rpm
    Intel Celeron 530 ( 1,7 Ghz) 1Mb Cash
    Intel GL 960 Chipset
    Intel GMA 965 X3100 GFX chipset
    2 GB 667 Mhz Ram (bught it second hand)

    Laptop Spec : (uppgraded)

    200 GB Sata7200 Rpm
    Intel C2D T7500 ( 2,2 Ghz) 4Mb Cashe
    Intel GL 960 Chipset
    Intel GMA 965 X3100 GFX chipset
    2 GB 533 Mhz Ram

    Feels like it is about 100-150 % faster then stock
     
  23. Jackstar

    Jackstar Newbie

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    Today i tryed upgrade my cpu. My laptop is a compaq 610 with GL960 chipset. I placed a C2D t5470 (800fsb) for a celeron 570 (533 fsb). The upgrade didn't work. I get bsods and the screen is full with artifacts.

    Upgrading compaq 610 does not work :(
     
  24. holyone

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    what is the ram speed on ur memory ?

    i had the same problem when i had 667 Mhz memory then i switched to 533 Mhz memory and all is fine no BSOD and no artifacts ,, if u dont have 533 Mhz memory to switch with try changing down to 16 Bit color mode i read that it helpt for some ppl ,, untill u get some other memory moduls
     
  25. nobboo

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    :( :( :( :(
    somebody help me. pls
    I downgraded Ram :D to 533 but it possible too?
    Is it possible?
     
  26. Jackstar

    Jackstar Newbie

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    I ordered a T2390 for 18 euro's to replace the t5470. pc4200 memory is hard to find.
     
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    I am from the Netherlands. Buying a t2390 is cheaper than a new memory. The t2390 was just for 18 euro. T2390 performs like the T5470. The higher clockspeeds, compansates the lower L2 cache.
     
  29. JayDubbafet

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    Hi Jackstar and others

    I'm from the Netherlands and upgraded my HP 6720s (GL960).
    First I upgraded the cpu from Celeron 530 to a C2D T5250.
    Man, you have to disamble the whole notebook to get to the cpu.
    ( http://bizsupport2.austin.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c01293339/c01293339.pdf)

    I got graphical problems when my Windows7 logon screen loads and when waking up from sleepmode. Tried the change 16bit color depth solution discussed earlier on this thread. But alas it didn't work for me.
    Disabled the Dual Core option in the Bios, but that also didn't fix it.
    Updated al drivers, same result.

    My 6720s has two 1GB memory PC2-5300 (667MHz) modules. I've read that changing to PC2-4200 (533MHz) might solve the problem. So that was an option I wanted to try out. I orderd an 2 GB PC2-4200 module on an dutch auction-site (marktplaats) for €30. If it didn't work and I had to replace the 530 cpu again then I still could use the 2GB module with one of the 1GB module.
    A bit strange that HP equiped the Celeron/GM960 with PC2-5300 memory. Maybee it was cheaper then an PC2-4200 module.

    Today my 2GB module arrived. I removed both 1GB PC2-5300 modules en placed the 2GB module. W7 started without graphical problems and also the sleepmode works like normal again. Wooohooo. :D
    Afterwards I placed one of the 1GB together with the 2GB and everything keeps working as it should. The memory speed of both modules has been lowered to 533MHz. That's why the 1GB module now also works without any problems with the T5250. Keep in mind that the 2GB module must be placed first and the 1GB last. When you place the 2Gb last the laptop doesn't startup, it almost reboots directly after the bios-sequence.
    Intel product info says the GL960 only support max 2GB, but this info isn't correct.

    Workaround until my 2GB module arrived:
    startup computer -> enter bios -> exit bios without saving
    After this procedure Windows starts without graphical errors.
    I also disabled all the sleep-functions in W7 powermanagement or changed them to hibernate. When the laptop wakes up from hibernation then it also starts with the bios and you have to follow the procedure.

    I want to thank you all for the info I found on this thread.

    I also upgraded my HP nx6110 from a celeron 370 to a pentium m 735.
    My HP nx6110 had an 910gml chipset and supports fsb 400MHz.
    The pentium m 735 is a 400MHz processor and it worked like a charm.
    After this succes I placed an pentium m 750, an 533MHz processor.
    This one is still in my notebook, but i think is gets a bit warmer then normal

    I hope this helps others like the replies on this forum helped me.
    My apologizies for this long reply.
    :cool:

    I used Everest Ultimate or HWiNFON32 to check my notebook chipset.
    CPU-Z and Intel utils said that the chipset was 910/915 for the nx6110 and 960/965 for the 6720s. That's not much help because you need to know what chipset it exactly has.
     
  30. auxilio

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    I am SO glad that I found this thread. I have been searching for SO long to find a thread dealing with my laptop. I have an MSI VR601, which has an intel GL960. I've searched forever, and haven't come up with an answer, except for here. From the looks of this forum, I'll be able to upgrade to anything that has a socket P 478 pin processor, as long as it's 800 MHz, right? So, could I theoretically go for a T9500? Intel's website says that the T9500 is 800 MHz FSB, with a socket P478. Can I go for this processor? And just so I know what I can fallback on, a T7300 will definitely work? Also, I'm a little confused, what exact kind of RAM do I need to upgrade the RAM? I have 2 Gigs right now...if I wanted to go to 4, would I be able to? Thanks so much.
     
  31. freereader

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    Hi, I upgraded my Compaq C793VU successfully. It has runned very stable for weeks.

    I read the HP Notebook Manual for C700 and disassembled all the parts. It is a little difficult for me to release the keyboard and remove the top cover. It is better to remove the switch cover, then release the keyboard. When you open the memory/wireless module compartment cover, disconnect all 3 cables you see, including the two WLAN antenna cables, thus you will have no trouble later, Important, It's my lesson.

    Summary:
    CPU from Celeron M 560 to Core Duo 2 T6670,
    Core speed from 2.13GHz to 2.20 Ghz, usu at 1.2GHz by Speedstep, much cooler than before

    RAM from 1G x 1 to 1G x 2,
    DRAM frequency from 266MHz to 333MHz

    FSB from 533MHz to 800MHz

    BIOS
    from F34 with SLIC2.0 to modified F34 with SLIC 2.1

    The only pity is that Hardware Virtualization was locked off by BIOS although T6670 supports VT. It is complicated for me to modify the BIOS file and change the default setting, although marcan has posted an article on how to do it.
     
  32. remontimo

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    Hello,

    I am new to this forum, i stumbled into this thread when googling for t7500 and GLE960 compatibility :)
    Nice thread and very interesting!

    I got my hands on a T7500 from a broken laptop and tried it in my HP550.
    The laptop (when equiped with the C2D) gives graphical mess when Windows starts and eventually does a hangup.

    I figured it may have something to do with the 800 mhz FSB, maybe 667 runs better...
    So now i was wondering if there are any known cases in which the T5750 works :D

    cheers, Rémon
     
  33. Judicator

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    A graphical mess implies a problem with your graphics card, and not the processor. Does it work fine with the old processor?
     
  34. remontimo

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    Yes, when i stick back the celeron 550 the laptop works fine
     
  35. smolnij

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    Hello,

    Can I ask some questions:
    1. does anyone have an experience of successful upgrade on hp 550 (Intel GM965 Express 800Mhz) from T5xxx (T5270) to T9xxx (T9300) CPU?
    I'm pretty sure that it will work with T7xxx series, as it is Merom, but what about T9xxx Penryn?
    Will it work at all?
    Will it require BIOS upgrade? As I was not able to find HP firmware, as on their official site the only firmware file which has "Initial bios files" in description, so I don't think this is an upgrade. Does anyone know where I can find it, if it will be necessary?

    And one more question,
    Why the laptop is being shipped with 667Mhz RAM, while it has a 800Mhs FSB? Will the upgrade to 800Mhz RAM boots performance?

    Sorry for that mess of questions :)
    Thanks
     
  36. remontimo

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    Hm. Maybe the T7500 is bad, then. Hard to tell without testing it in another machine.
     
  38. Crippled

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    Hi,
    anyone experience with upgrading a 6720s with GL960 to an FSB800 CPU?
     
  39. toshiba-l40

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    Considering that the GL960 is a P socket, has anyone tested it if can run 1066 MT/s fsb.... Yes I know about the Bios e.t.c But seem most people thought it couldn't go past 533 fsb.
     
  40. msa142

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    Another experiment with HP 550 notebook , replaced celeron 550 2.0ghz with c2d 1.5 t5250 >> but the problem is it takes two boots to work fine. first blue screen with dump with (Igdkmd32.sys) and restart then laptop works perfectly after that. solved with entering bios after powering-up and exit without saving ,Doing this every time i run laptop will harm it ?
    Is it worth moving from celeron 2.0 to c2d 1.5 ?? i don't see huge deference
     
  41. Meaker@Sager

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    1.5ghz dual core vs 2ghz single core.

    The winner will vary depending on the task.
     
  42. naton

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    I do have experience with the HP 6720s. HP sold this laptop with 2 motherboards; one for celeron and the other one for Pentium dual core and core 2 duo CPUs. The same is for the HP 550.

    Upgrading the HP 6720s to a core 2 duo won't be trouble free. I upgraded the laptop of a friend from a celeron to a working T7300. The laptop started misbehaving after installing the GPU driver. The first time the laptop is switched ON, Windows desktop is distorted. Occationally, it was the BSOD followed by a system reboot. The only way to get the laptop to work was to restart it.

    NRB member reported that for his HP 550 he had to boot into the BIOS and reboot/ restart the laptop from there.

    I tested with XP, Vista, and win7.
     
  43. naton

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    My Lenovo G530 BIOS is v1.08. I can confirm that the T9900 and T2370 won't work.

    I'll upgrade the BIOS to the latest version and let you know if there is any changes.
     
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    And the solution is replacing the RAM with 533 FSB > the BSOD will go bye-bye
     
  45. naton

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    No the BSOD won't go away. I tried with different PC5300 modules of RAM and the result was the same. The PC5300 can run at an FSB of 200, 266 and 333MHz. That's an FSB of 400, 533 and 666MHz if you consider that the RAM is double data rate.

    The problem starts after installing the IGP driver. So either the IGP or the chipset is cripled and can't handle anything over FSB133. My guess is the IGP.
     
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    Hi I thought I would let you guys know that due to this thread I too upgraded my laptop.

    I have the Toshiba equium L350 10P
    stock spec
    Processor type : Intel® Pentium® Dual-Core Processor T2370
    clock speed : 1.73 GHz
    Front Side Bus : 533 MHz
    2nd level cache : 1 MB


    Upgraded to
    Processor type : Intel® Pentium® Dual-Core T7300
    clock speed : 2.0 GHz
    Front Side Bus : 800 MHz
    2nd level cache : 4 MB


    Hard disk capacity : 1000 Gb Samsung Spinpoint M series
    certification : S.M.A.R.T.
    drive rotation : 5,400 rpm

    CPUz

    I won the CPU off eBay for £14.08~ BARGAIN!


    My questions?

    Will it matter if another upgrade the process technology is 45nm and my current is 65nm? (T9300) will the board support this? I know my Dual core desktop wouldnt? But Im certain that was down to FSB.

    Can I run 2 x 2GB DDR2 PC5300 ram?
     
  47. naton

    naton Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yes for the Ram you can install 4GB if you wish (i.e. 2x2). If your Windows is 32bit you'll only be able to use between 3 and 3.5GB (roughly) of the installed RAM. If you install a 64bit version of Windows you'll be able to use all 4GB.
    If your windows is 32bit I would recommand to use 1 + 2 GB for a total of 3GB.

    As for the CPU the fasted you can install will be the T9500. The 45mm might work it they are supported by the BIOS in your laptop. For instance the T4200 is as fast as the T7300 and cost about the same in ebay. The T4200 run cooler too with a max temperaure underload of 60c or below.
     
  48. pengy_666

    pengy_666 Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks for getting back to me.

    I am running windows 7 64 bit luckily.

    I don't know if the bios will support a 45nm CPU.
     
  49. Avora

    Avora Notebook Consultant

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    Hi, I'm new to the site. I recently upgraded my HP 550 from a 530 Celeron, to a Core 2 Duo T7250. Only issue were the graphics needed slower RAM otherwise booting would create a garbled image, unless I entered the BIOS first. Solved this by getting hold of a 512Mb PC4200 slab from ebay for £3. Put this in with my 2gb PC6400 and it worked.
     
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    It might be worth running SiSoftware Sandra, it tells you the maximum FSB capabilits of the board!
     
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