GL960 Chipset Processor Upgradability

If a bios does not support a Core 2 Duo CPU, it will set the multiplier to the minimum value which is 6. This is a safety feature so at least your computer will boot up. If you have the latest bios then you will have to continue to run ThrottleStop to achieve maximum performance.

If you don't want to see ThrottleStop then it has an option that causes it to immediately exit after it sets up your CPU. Add this to the ThrottleStop.INI file

ExitTime=5

and ThrottleStop will set up your CPU correctly and automatically exit 5 seconds later.

ThrottleStop takes up very little resources so letting it run all the time is not a big deal. You can add it to your start up sequence using the Task Scheduler as explained in the second post of this thread.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...es/531329-throttlestop-guide.html#post6865107

 

I have read something about modded bios and i don't know what to do. I'm afraid of burning my motherboard or the proc... For the moment throttlestop seems to be the easiest way... ohh.. by the way... even the throttlestop can't set the multiplier higher than 12.5. I set it to 13,13.5, 14 but the real clock remains unchanged.(i suppose the processor multiplier is blocked..)
Any way a'm very pleased of this procesor...I'm wondering if i can put 4gb dual channel ram 3gb is supported(i tried) and if i put some at 800mhz speed will work(the ram.. "..)

 

The T9300 supports a feature called Intel Dynamic Acceleration. It is very similar to Turbo Boost in the newer Core i processors. The default multiplier is 12.5 for a T9300 but this CPU also supports a multiplier as high as 13.5. Adjust the Set Multiplier value in ThrottleStop to 13.5 and then run a single thread of the TS Bench test and post a picture while the test is running.

The way this feature works is when a single core of the CPU is active, the multiplier can go up to 13.5. When a second core goes active, the maximum drops down to 12.5. This will be happening constantly, hundreds of times a second. ThrottleStop reports a very accurate average when this is happening. During a single thread of the TS Bench test, one multiplier should be close to 13.5 and the other core should be close to 12.5 if this is working correctly. There are always going to be Windows background tasks waking up the second core during any single threaded test so it is impossible to see the full 13.5 multiplier for any length of time.

If SpeedStep - EIST can be disabled in the bios or is not locked, you can trick the CPU into locking both cores at the 13.5 multiplier. Here's a thread about that trick.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/win...c-acceleration-ida-both-cores-core-2-duo.html

 

Hi,
Thank you for your help guys, with help from this forum I successfuly upgraded CPU on my Acer Extensa 5220 laptop.
Specifications of my laptop befor upgraded was:

CPU - Intel Celeron 540 1,86GHz/1M/533MHz
Memorys - 2x1GB/PC2-5300 running at 533MHz

After upgrade:

CPU - Intel Core-Duo T3400 2,16GHz/1M/667MHz
Memorys - 2x1GB/PC2-5300 running at 667MHz

After upgrade, my laptop is running fine without any problems.First time I thought the upgrade wasn't so successfuly, because multiplier switching between 6 and 13 and CPU frequency between 997 and 2161 MHz. But after a Stability test made with Everest with CPU stressed at maximum, the CPU frequency was running on maximum value. Then I understood that this switching is made by SpeedStep which is active now.
Thank you once more for your help and sorry for my english.

 

Hi, i have acer 5315 and processor 550 2.0ghz, 533mhz fsb, 1mb l2 cache, socket is gl960, can somene tell me, can i upgrade it with dual core processor and which one is compatibile? thanks.

 

I successfully upgraded my Celeron 540 with Intel Core-Duo T3400. You can try with T2370 or T2390 or with other model reported on this forum that work.

 

So could i put T3400 also? Trouble seems to be in that is it real gl960 chipset or downgraded 965, cpu detects mine as 960, so my options are limited. So best cpu i can put in is T2390?

 

I was lucky, mine was a downgraded 965 and T3400 runs very fine. Mine also was detected as 960, but I was lucky. You must assume the risk.

 

Hi, i have a acer aspire 5315, i bought a intel core 2 duo t4200 and try to instal it. The laptop in bios recognizes the new cpu but when it starts to load the windows or when starts to boot from windows instalation cd it freezes. What could it be. Any help ?
Thanks!

 

Hi guys,

I just thought that I would inform you all that the Core 2 Duo T9300 does indeed work, with much better thermal and processing performance, thanks to the Penryn redesign (I guess, Intel's "tock"). This should also be a decent improvement over the Merom Core 2 Duo T5900, which is the best option according to ASUS.

So, anyone looking to upgrade their X58L, please read below for the highest configuration that works!

• Intel Core 2 Duo T9300 'Penryn' (2.50 GHz/6 MB L2/800 MHz FSB/35 W TDP)
• 3 GB DDR2-800/PC2-6400 RAM (chipset downclocks it to 667 MHz)

Using 4 GB RAM will cause blue screens upon start up. The only thing that hasn't been tried for RAM yet is a single 4-gigabyte module, which is proving to be quite an expensive option, hence why I haven't done it yet.

If I or someone else does, I will update the thread once again.

Dylan.

 

Hi there!

What is your current processor? And I would also suggest that you use CPU-Z to detect your current front-side bus (FSB) frequency, the RAM frequency and the motherboard details. Simply taking screenshots of the information would be easier. If you're using Windows Vista or above, you can simply use the Snipping Tool to capture the information. Upload your images to an image host such as imgur.

Hi Minitek!

Thanks for your contribution. It does seem that many GL960 reports are in fact capable of running Core 2 Duos with Hyper-Threading enabled, and also more than 2 gigabytes of RAM.

Hi there!

I would advise you to take the necessary steps that I provided for Kapetankuka82 above, for your Aspire.

From the information you've provided, it sounds as though your motherboard (more probable) or chipset doesn't agree with your processor, but understanding your current system specifications may help the situation. If you're using Windows Vista or above, you can simply use the Snipping Tool to capture the information. Upload your images to an image host such as imgur.

 

I have ordered a C2D T9300 for my ASUS X58L. It should be here by next week. Will let you all know how it goes.

 

T9300 arrived and is now installed, successfully.

- Temperatures are around 20°C lower than those of the T5900 (26°C vs. 44°C)
- I've gained 40 fps in Minecraft over the previous T5900 (90 vs. 51)

Basically, if you have this laptop, ignore ASUS and ignore Intel. As long as your BIOS is up-to-date (version 203), go with a Core 2 Duo T9300 and you'll be very happy.

 

So I've had my Sony Vaio since 2007, and I've recently started upgrading it. I upgraded my cpu from a Pentium T2310 1.46GHz, to a Core 2 Duo T7250 2.0GHz. I need a little more cpu horsepower to watch 1080p twitch streams and render videos in Vegas 12. So far, I've been looking at the T7800 2.6GHz and the X7800 2.6GHz. I've seen the T7800 for as low as $45 on ebay.

My question is the T7800 compatible with my VGN-NR120E which has a GL960 northbridge?

 

Hi there, Ryan.

In all honesty, Core 2 Duos themselves aren't supposed to be supported by the GL960 chipset.

Now, you mentioned that you're currently using a T7250 which is from the Merom series of Core 2 Duos. Indeed, you're not the only one who has reported these processors working; I, myself, have also had this with my "GL960" laptop, as well as many others in this thread.

So, I can suggest that you try the T7800, which is the most powerful Merom Core 2 Duo available for laptops. Purely for thermal precautions, I wouldn't recommend the Core 2 Extreme X7800, unless your laptop manufacturer explicitly says that it's compatible, which is unlikely if you have the GL960 chipset. That and the fact that Merom has more heat dissipation when compared to the Penryn series (update to Merom in 2008/2009).

Speaking of Penryn, you can try what I did, if you want to get the most out of your machine:

I purchased a Celeron 925 (Penryn) for just £5 to test my laptop for Penryn support. For Penryn to be supported, your BIOS needs to have the 0676/10676 microcode, but you may not have a method to check this.

However, if the Celeron is compatible, I would then happily suggest a T9300, which is the second highest Core 2 Duo available for the GM965 chipset (which is probably what you have in terms of processor support).

Also, may I ask how much RAM your machine currently has, and how much the manufacturer states is the maximum in the spec?

Kind regards,
Dylan

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If the T7250 boots in your machine, T7800 will as well...however: the latter is one hot-running CPU, so consider yourself forewarned.

I'd consider testing out a cheap Penryn such as T8100 and checking out whether the system will support it. If it does, you can climb up higher, although a T8100 would be a solid upgrade over T7250 even if it doesn't appear so on paper.

Good luck.

 

So you think the T7800 should work? My FSB is working at 800MHz and I have 3GB of RAM @667MHz.

I have considered the Penryn idea, and my friend has a spare T9300, should I try that? He will probably want $40 for the cpu.

So I have three options I guess:
1.T7800 for $45
2.T7700 for $17
3.T9300 for $40

-Ryan

 

Try out the T9300.

You've got nothing to lose and it's *by far* the best of three options that you list in your post.

Make sure that your friend will take it back if it doesn't work in your machine.

Good luck.

 

So the fact that the T7250 boots in my system means the T7800 will too? The BIOS should support it? btw, I purchased the T7250 for $3 on ebay.

 

Ok, I guess I will try out his cpu, and he will take it back if it doesn't work. If his cpu works, would that mean that the T9500 would work too?

My specs: Sony Vaio VGN-NR120E: T7250 2.0GHz, Kingston 3GB DDR2-667, GMA X3100, Kingston V300 120GB SSD, 1280x800 TN

 

Yes. However, the difference in price is not worth it. T9300 offers - by far - the best price/performance ratio amongst the 800MHz Penryns.

I don't believe I've ever touched a Sony from this era, but it doesn't really matter.

Either the BIOS will cry "foul" and you'll have to stick with Meroms, or it will be fine with a Penryn right out of the box.

Good luck.

 

Thanks, I'll try the T9300 sometime soon and report back.

-Ryan

 

3 GB of RAM is a sure sign of a modified GL960 chipset, meaning the FSB can accelerate up to the full 800 MHz and Penryn support is more likely.

Also, what Ajkula66 said in regards to the T9500, is basically what I was going to say. Performance per dollar/pound is definitely better with the T9300 - you would be getting 10% performance increase with 40% price increase.

Good luck buddy, I'm eager to hear how it goes!

Dylan

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Fist of all i am pleased to see people intersting with the gl960 chipset until now.I have a toshiba satellite L40-16D with that chipset and before to days i instal a T9300 cpu.First of all it works and the fsb runs correctly exept the multiplier and the voltage as you will see in the attachments.What can i do to unlock the multiplier via harware i have already use a modded bios and nothing happend.

 

Status update: The T9300 works! Idle temps are down from 60C to 30C and I can finally watch 1080p twitch streams. I guess the VGN-NR120E is compatible with Penryn. Yeah!!!!

 

Hi Peros!

Since I'm still using my six year old GL960 laptop, I thought it would only be right for me to share my knowledge and experiences with others who wanted to upgrade their GL960 machine.

I see that you have the AMI 2.00 BIOS. Is this the latest version for your machine?

That's great news buddy. Enjoy!

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Yes this is the latest bios from toshiba and i have already mod it so i can unlock the multiplier but nothing happend.I just gonna buy a X7900 to see what will happen it is fully soppurted by the gl60 chipset i belive that will work fine.If you have any suggestion about the t9300 please share it.

 

The X7900 isn't supported by the true GL960 chipsets. If you're having problems getting above the 2 GB RAM limit and no processors above the Celeron M series seem to work, there's not much that can be done.

Modified GL960 chipsets are the ones that can accept 3 GB of RAM and better processors like Celeron Dual-Core, Pentium Dual-Core and Core 2 Duo. 4 GB of RAM with these chipsets will produce blue screens upon starting into Windows.

I did notice that your bus was utilizing the full speed of the processor, but the multiplier has been decreased. This may be a sign of a GL960 chipset, but I'm not certain as this is the first time I've seen this.

You should try a cheaper Core 2 Duo from the Merom family - something like a T5800 or T5900 to see if the multiplier is still affected. If so, you should try a Celeron 925 which is a Penryn and see if that is any different.

If so, I really can't suggest anything above a Merom Celeron M; something like a 575 or 550.

Dylan

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hello. can someone with experience compile a list of supported cpu's for the genuine gl960 and the downgraded gl960?
i have an extensa 5220 with 2x512 ram so the first test i'm gonna do is to put a 2gb ram to see if it works with 2,5gb of ram and after that i will buy a c2d hopefully a peyrin.
if someone will compile that list maybe a moderator can pin it on the first page
cheers

 

Hi @ naton! I need your advice. I noticed that you mentioned upgrading hp 6720s. I also upgraded from Celeron 1.73 ghz to Core Duo 2.0 ghz. Please tell me how did you manage to resolve display problem. After upgrading CPU, display is working normal only if I go to safe mode first and then reboot. Otherwise all I've got is blurry screen.



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Motherboard: HP
model: 30D8 KBC Version 83.0C
Chipset: Intel GL960 Rev. C0

Previous processor:
Intel (R) Celeron (R) M CPU 530 @1.73 GHz
Current processor:
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T5870 2.0-GHz

 

X9500 or T9500 is the LAST CPU supported by the GL960 or GL965, or atleast that is my understanding of it, unless some OEMs did some really retard stuff. if you what more speed than a X9500 the get a true engineering version of the X9500 which will have the multiplier unlocked and is easy to overclock, but you'll need to undervolt it and keep a close eye on it using something like RMCLOCK or that new software that has been created in my 2 year absence

the multiplier being stepped down is likely due to BIOS support i'd suggest seeing if there is an upgraded BIOS for your make and model.
i personally have ran a X9500 in the PC in my signature, and when any non celeron is inserted the GL960 then shows up as a GL965.

and people always keep your socketM and socketP CPUs straight, and make sure you know what socket your pc has before ordering.
that cost me $50 back in 2008.

IIRC all CPUs above the 9500 were designed for the new chipset that allowed bus speeds above 800Mhz (it's been 2 years since i did that research so i've forgot that chipset and cpu codename)
bigO

 

Another option is to go for X9000...which is still an expensive CPU, even nowadays...

 

I'd like to share my success story - Core 2 Duo T7500 fits in Toshiba Equium P300-16T (in fact, I'm sure that even T7800 would fit).
Came from Pentium DC T2370. WEI increased from 4.6 to 5.5, and Fritz Chess benchmark jumped from 4.88 to 6.41 - about 30% performance increase. Not bad for 20$ I think.

Cooling system of Equium P300 is quite good - big heatsink, large fan - so no overheating. But computer is very difficult to disassemble, lots of screws and small cables. I hate such "engineering practices", because it is done deliberately, to decrease life of the device or force user to buy new laptop. Not to compare with old HP NX6110 / NX6325 / NX7400, where it only takes to remove keyboard to fully access processor. The guide, located at Toshiba Satellite P305 P300 disassembly guide - Page 1, helped me greatly.

 

Yes, the GL960 chipset is not meant to operate with any processor above the 533 MT/s bus, thus limiting options to a Celeron M 550 at best. The 'downgraded GM965' chipsets seem to be the type that are marketed as GL960 chips, but in fact support almost every aspect of the GM965 chipset, such as Intel SpeedStep, IDA, the 667/800 MT/s bus frequencies and, of course, Penryn processors like the T9300 that I have, as well as the Celeron 925. Core 2 Extreme support will be limited to the 'adapted' GM965 and true GM965 chipsets.

In addition to the processor support difference between the GL960, 'downgraded GM965' and GM965, the RAM support is also different. 2 GB DDR2-533 for real GL960 chips, 3 GB DDR2-667 for 'downgraded GM965' chips and 4 GB DDR2-667 for the real GM965 chips. And of course, the latter two support DDR2-800, but will downclock it to DDR2-667 speeds.

I know how that feels. Getting into an R61 was a pain, especially when compared to the relatively simple design of my laptop (which also, by the way, was never intended to have its processor upgraded, so extra kudos to ASUS there).

But I'm glad it worked. :thumbsup:

 

I think that when there is a GL960 with factory-installed DC processor like my earlier T2370, chances of upgrade are quite high, much higher than of those systems with Celerons. And yes, T7500 was correctly recognized, option about HW virtualization appeared in BIOS. IDA works as well, so in fact T7500 usually works at 2.4 GHz rather than at nominal 2.2 GHz (quite a lovely surprise, +200 MHz free)

P.S. DylRicho, if by "R61" you mean Lenovo R61, then it is much easier to handle than Equium. I loaded video tutorial from Youtube, in fact it takes ~10 screws to get to the CPU assembly. In case of Equium or HP G60 / CQ60 you have to completely disassemble entire thing, with removal of display and motherboard and taking out 30-40 screws.

 

I think that is the case with regards to GL960 upgradability, although my laptop came with a Celeron M 575 as its lowest option, and the T5900 as its highest option. I think ASUS already knew that it was a GM965 underneath but the company just wanted to limit the RAM capacity (and probably the GPU clock too). Nevertheless, I now have a T9300 successfully installed and further inspection into the most recent BIOS for my laptop shows Penryn microcode.

As for the laptops, that definitely sounds like a chore. With my laptop (bearing in mind it only cost £220 in 2008), there are just 9 screws covering a large plate on the bottom. Removal of this plate will give you complete access to the CPU, fan, heatsink, RAM and WLAN card. The hard drive has its own little cover. In comparison to mine, the R61 is a bad one to get into, but your example seems borderline insane.

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Hello,

anyone know if it is possible to upgrade this notebook (Asus X51L) with processor T7300 or T3200?

It's works someone?

Sorry for my english

 

I'm almost sure it is possible. Make only sure that you have latest BIOS and buy T7700 - it will have 2.6GHz IDA mode, like mine T7500 has.
Today, when these CPU's are dirt cheap (just saw one T7700 for 23$ on eBay), there is no fear like back in 2010, when notebook was almost new and CPU could cost 500$.

P.S. After 5 years we'll nostalgically remember these days, when laptops were so cheaply upgradable. New trends are gearing towards single-use devices with everything soldered and filled with glue like iPads.

 

Hi there,

An upgrade to a Pentium Dual-Core T2390 and T3200 are both certainly possible, and therefore, I think any Merom processor with a 533 or 667 MHz bus will also work. The best of the lot is the Core 2 Duo T5850 (T5xxx series) and Core 2 Duo T7400 (T7xxx series).

I do believe your model is identical underneath to mine, but I'm not certain on it.

May I ask how much RAM your machine currently has, and what BIOS version you have?

 

Ignore double post.

 

Hmmm...T7400 is a Socket M, and T5850 is a Socket P. These are not interchangeable under any circumstances. So if one works, the other most certainly won't.

 

I have a Toshiba Sattelite a205-s5000 with an Intel(R) Celeron CPU 540 @ 1.86GHz. Socket 479mPGA. Whats the best processor upgrade i can get?

 

Oops, my apologies. I didn't realize the T7400 was a Socket M-only processor. Disregard my post above.

I'll respond later with a compatible solution and also help the other guy, I'm a little queezy with a headache right now.

Again, apologies.
Dylan

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i dont have this notebook near me to say bios version. It has 1 Gb DDR2 533mhz single channel. i'll upgrade it to 2gb, but i have question... must i have DDR2 with 800mhz?

I look on aukro.cz and i found only this proccessors T8300 and T7500. T8300 its really better but, i dont know if should be compatible

 

No but due to the chipset, I'd suggest sticking to DDR2-667 (PC2-5300) at most. And from the sounds of it, only 2 GB.

As for the processor, I would stick to models with a 667 MT/s FSB, and of course maintain socket compatibility. If your machine is Socket P, then the T5850 is the best choice from my memory.

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I'm very late to the party. I'd just like to make note of my success putting a Core 2 Duo T6500 in my Acer Aspire 5715z with a GL960 chipset. It runs cooler than the old T2330 that I was using before (probably thanks to switching from Merom to Penryn.) Now...if only I could get past that 2GB RAM limit...

Cheers,
Amir

 

Isn't 5715z using basically that's same motherboard like 5315?. I think it is. I remember that You can put in 5315, I think 3GB, but in specific configuration. 2GB module have to be in lower slot and 1GB in upper. It's only 1GB more what You have now, but always something.

 

tested, checked on ntb Asus X51L... works fine with T7500

 

Anyone ever figure this out?

 

on gl960, platform santa rosa, i replace t7500
on t4500, and work good, but not increase a performance.

then change cpu on t9300, but have a one problem.
fan start rotation, when cpu arrive 35C degrees, and shutdown when it be a 29C. i try all windows version and linux, reflash bios, but same result was.
all program detect same temp, and air from fan, not warm, but rather cold.
i think bios wrong detecting CPU temp, and think that temp is near 50C and start fan rotation.
this problem actual especially summer, when outside temperature is 30C. and fan almost not stopping. accept only case when conditioner cooling room temp to 17C, then fan stop.
have any idea ? maybe problem in current cpu, and this example is wrong ?