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    GTX 660M vs 1080P

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by TheDeicide, Jul 22, 2012.

  1. TheDeicide

    TheDeicide Newbie

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    first of all, i'm new here and i don't know where to post my problem. if it's wrong section, i'm sorry.

    anyway, here is my problem. i'm in dilemma. there are two laptop, that i have to choose one of them.

    lenovo y580; msi ge60;
    8gb ram 1600mhz, 6gb ram 1333mhz,
    15.6" 1366x768, glossy screen, 15.6" 1080p, matte screen,
    500gb 5400 rpm, 750gb rpm,
    gtx 660m gt 650m

    does 1080p make much difference than 720p in 15.6" ? or can i ignore this fact and go for gtx 660m?

    screen quality or 10-13% difference in performance?

    i need a good and strong argument for to choose.

    in my country, there is no fhd lenovo atm btw. that's why i have to choose from these two.
     
  2. R3d

    R3d Notebook Virtuoso

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    Do you absolutely have to choose one of those? Get the ge60 if you do, there's not much difference between the 660m and 650m but the 1080p screen is a big improvement. Otherwise, consider the sager NP6165.
     
  3. TheDeicide

    TheDeicide Newbie

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    well, i live in turkey and sager is not a choice atm. i know they are good but i can't buy a sager in my country, and you couldn't have many choice if you want to choose good performance with best price. even lenovo y580 newly came to my country and i can't wait for lenovo with fhd models' coming to my country. that's why they are absolute choices.
     
  4. Valentin N

    Valentin N Notebook Evangelist

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    Why don't you import the laptop?
     
  5. TheDeicide

    TheDeicide Newbie

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    well, because importing taxes in my country are extremely high. with this taxes, sager or any other brands stop being a good performance/price products. don't make me start to talk about my country ^__^ . and btw, manufacturers bring their products much later to turkey than developed countries.

    yeah, i know, being turkish sucks.
     
  6. Valentin N

    Valentin N Notebook Evangelist

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    Then go for GE due to the FHD screen
     
  7. TheDeicide

    TheDeicide Newbie

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    thanks for your answers. i know i want msi, but i'm still not convinced.

    why not convinced? :(
     
  8. edit1754

    edit1754 Notebook Prophet

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    You are going to notice the difference between the two displays more than you would notice the (~13%) difference between the two GPUs.

    1366x768 resolution in a 15.6" display makes things onscreen large, and 15.6" displays that have 1366x768 resolution tend to have very poor image quality due to low contrast. You should avoid this type of display when it is reasonable to do so, if you don't require its larger text for eyesight-related reasons. On the contrary, the 15.6" 1920x1080 display in the GE60 has great contrast, is good for multitasking, and also has an anti-reflective matte finish.

    The display difference is also going to be noticed in everything you do with your computer. The GPU difference would only be noticed during gaming.

    Another (more blunt) way to think about it is: A 15.6" 1366x768 display is a terrible display, but a GT 650M is not a terrible GPU.
     
  9. Krane

    Krane Notebook Prophet

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    Maximum resolution always. Unless its for the kids or someone else.
     
  10. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    Im not sold on the chassis, thats the main problem for me on the msi ge60, it looks a lot like the ex625 that I had, and well, it was awful.
     
  11. TheDeicide

    TheDeicide Newbie

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    i will use it for gaming -gw2, diablo 3, dota 2 and sometime good rpgs and occasionally action games-, watching anime/movies/series and college. i will use it not like a gamer as you can see. it will be more like multimedia laptop for me.

    this actually is one of good and strong argument that i was expecting, but , even with this argument, i'm not convinced enough to choose msi. like i said, i will watch anime and this makes display very important. but there is a little voice which is screaming "MORE PERFORMANCE, MORE PERFORMANCE, GO FOR LENOVO" and i can't make it stop.

    but thanks for your answers. they were helpfull and brought me more closer to making a decision.
     
  12. aduy

    aduy Keeping it cool since 93'

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    i do like higher res, but it also depends on the gpu, for instance you wouldnt want a 610m and a 1080p screen, that would just be terrible, but the 650m is a good enough card for 1080p so i say go for it, and then overclock.
     
  13. thomasw333

    thomasw333 Notebook Evangelist

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    Go for the MSI, the Lenovo Screen is very poor.
     
  14. edit1754

    edit1754 Notebook Prophet

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    You also should not use game performance as a reason to choose a 15.6" 1366x768 display instead of a 15.6" 1920x1080 display. If running games at the higher native resolution of the 1920x1080 display doesn't result in desired performance, then you can always lower to a non-native resolution in your game settings. But you cannot as easily make up for the limits imposed on how much you can fit onscreen by a 1366x768-resolution display. While running games in a non-native resolution results in blur, games will still tend to end up looking better running in non-native resolution on an excellent-quality display (e.g. 15.6" 1920x1080) than they would look running in native resolution on a poor-quality display (e.g. 15.6" 1366x768)

    That voice is probably partially driven by dishonest marketing from PC manufacturers. Dishonest marketing that overemphasizes the importance of performance, and fails to make note of what really makes a difference.

    The performance difference between the GT 650M and GTX 660M is not significant enough to affect you more than the difference between the two types of displays.
     
  15. TheDeicide

    TheDeicide Newbie

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    well it will be my first laptop by the way, and i don't even understand the difference between 720p and 1080p actually. probably that's why i'm not convinced enough. but still, no one said go for lenovo. msi got lots of points atm.
     
  16. TheDeicide

    TheDeicide Newbie

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    i'm sorry i didn't refresh the page before writing, so i did not see this post.

    you almost convinced me and actually it's not easy job. yes i don't know much about laptops, but while i was looking gpu benchmarks on notebookcheck, i only saw differences in gaming and i ignored the fact you mentioned. thanks for your answer.