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    Gaming laptops with low resolution

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Takezo, Jul 23, 2011.

  1. Takezo

    Takezo Notebook Consultant

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    Good night, everyone.

    I would like to know if any brand are making gaming laptops with low resolution, ranging between 1366x768 to 1600x900. I just feel that Full HD panels are way too demanding in terms of performance right now.

    I currently own a P7908u - GTX260M, 1440x900.
     
  2. Brabostaan

    Brabostaan Notebook Deity

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    M14x. If I was to spend so much money on a laptop it better have FHD screen. You can also take a look at the M17x or M18x.

    If you dont care about design look at clevo/sager models.
     
  3. MidnightSun

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    Lenovo IdeaPad Y570, with Core i7 quad-core and Radeon 6770M is a very good bang-for-the-buck option. Low-resolution laptops are far easier to come by than higher-resolution ones :p
     
  4. Takezo

    Takezo Notebook Consultant

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    I went to Sager website, but it doesn't seem that they're making gaming laptops with non-FD anymore. I just tried customizing some models and none of them gave me the option to put in a low resolution screen.

    Another reason for the to get a low-resolution is that I want a screen between 15-16", I don't think that a FHD panel on those screens will feel comfortable. Personal preference.
     
  5. Brabostaan

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    Get a FHD screen you can always adjust the resolution. ;) Blu Rays look amazing on FHD screens.
     
  6. mrbogangles

    mrbogangles Notebook Enthusiast

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    Why not take a look at Asus, a lot of their screens are 1366x768 to 1600x900.
    Go to xoticpc, under laptop go to "by use", and hit gaming, there are a few laptops with the screen your looking for.
     
  7. Brabostaan

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    Asus offers the GTX560m at best right? Just a little better then the GTX460m. Nothing special. You should be looking for 580m or 6990m in single or SLI/CF form for serious gaming.
     
  8. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    GTX 560M beats a single 6970M and runs close to the 485M (only 9% faster). Also consider the 560M is found in "entry" level gaming laptops (ASUS G series, MSI gaming, entry level Sager). Comparing a 560M to a 580M or 6990M is like comparing a BMW M3 to a Ferrari Enzo..
     
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  10. Takezo

    Takezo Notebook Consultant

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    Just checked the Lenovo IdeaPad Y570 and many models on xoticpc: the Lenovo one has a 6770M, which is a little bit worse when compared to GTX 260M and I couldn't find any model on xoticpc that had a config I am looking for.

    My hunch now is that there doesn't exist a laptop with a config I am looking for, hehe.
     
  11. Brabostaan

    Brabostaan Notebook Deity

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    But you can adjust the resolution.

    What should the specs be and what is your budget?
     
  12. HTWingNut

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    Wait what? No way. A single 485m and 6970m are about same as 560m in SLI (dual cards)!!!

    580m is less than 10% faster than the 485m and 6990m is only slightly faster than that!
     
  13. Takezo

    Takezo Notebook Consultant

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    That is the problem. When playing at lower resolutions, my image won't be as perfect as it would be at native resolution, am I right?

    For example: if my native resolution is 1920x1080, and I eventually use a resolution of 1440x900 for playing games, my image would not be as if I played at a notebook with 1440x900 of native resolution, right?
     
  14. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    Well Notebookcheck puts the GTX 560M above the 6970M in some benchmarks and only slightly lagging behind a 485M.
     
  15. HTWingNut

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    Where do you get that? All benchmarks point to 6970m equal to the 485m. The 6970m is 30-40% faster than the 560m. Take a trip and spend some time in the Sager forums, tons of discussion and benchmarks on the subject. The 6970m for all intents and purposes is equal to a 485m. The 580m is about 10% faster than 485m/6970m in general, and 6990m just edges out the 580m.

    From Notebookcheck.net:

    Game with 560m difference from 6970m
    DiRT 3 Ultra -31%
    Crysis 2 Ultra -35%
    Crysis Ultra -40%
    Metro 2033 High -41%
    Bad Company 2 Ultra -29%

    Maybe you were looking at the desktop GTX 560 and not the mobile version.
     
  16. Brabostaan

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    I dont really know but I think it should not matter. Games look better in 1080p :p Plus the current gen. gpu's are powerfull enough to output in FHD.

    Plus 720p/900p screens look real crappy compared to FHD screens. I will never go back to a lower res. screen. And spending so much money on a gaming laptop well it better have a FHD screen. No point in getting all that gpu power with a crappy low res. screen.
     
  17. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Second that. All true and confirmed in various benches and games.
     
  18. jeremyshaw

    jeremyshaw Big time Idiot

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    whew, I was about to fall off my rocker when someone suggested ASUS' GTX560m was as fast as a HD6970m :p

    And since the answer was in direct response to a question about ASUS' GTX560m, I'm going to assume the answer was talking about ASUS' variant :)
     
  19. mangos47

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    FHD doesn't neccessary worth the extra money paid on small screen sizes such as 15" because the extra detail may not be noticeable by majority of the user.

    Regarding the design part of the deal, it's more of a subjective matter and IMO Clevo/Sager is different from Alienware but in no means inferior or worse looking. In fact I found clevo/sager's simple design sort of a professional looking while alienware is just too fansy, not to mention the bulkyness and weight
     
  20. Mitlov

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    The Best Buy version of the Asus G74 has a 17", 1600x900 screen.
     
  21. mangos47

    mangos47 Notebook Consultant

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    for the image quality part, it depends on individual's preference. I myself found that if lcd screen is to display images at non-native resolution, it blurs and just doens't feel right. I have an ASUS G71 with GTX 260m. I changed the screen from stock 1440x900 to 1920x1200. It's an obsolete GPU already so most of the game I can only play in lower resolution. I personally prefer to NOT scale up the image so I end up with black window around the gaming window but still I feel it's better than scaling up the image to full screen but blurred. Again, some people may prefer the later if they play TV games a lot.

    I know what you are looking for: a laptop with low screen resolution with a strong GPU to enjoy better gaming performance and prolong the gaming lifespan. That's what I was looking for a couple weeks back and I couldn't find anything (by upgrading from my Sager 8662 with a GTX 260m). ALL the GTX card are with FHD, even on 15" screens. If you really want to have a low resolution screen on a high-end gaming laptop, probably you have to change the screen yourself, which isn't particularly hard, nor expensive (if you find a switch buddy may even gain a few bucks out of it)
     
  22. Takezo

    Takezo Notebook Consultant

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    Exactly mate.

    I'm glad to hear it from you, it will save me from looking for other models.

    I'll just stick with my current laptop, it's still nice and I like it hehe.

    Also, regarding changing the resolution ingame: did you try, on the nVIDIA control panel, to activate the GPU Scaling?

    I read about it and it seems to really improve the image quality when playing at non-native resolution, giving an almost perfect image.
     
  23. Mitlov

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    Once again, the Best Buy version of the Asus G74 (the G74SX-BBK7) has a slightly-nerfed 560M combined with a 17", 900p screen.