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    Geeks get your engineering caps on ;-)

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by AWVeteran, Feb 8, 2006.

  1. AWVeteran

    AWVeteran Notebook Evangelist

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    Im seriously considering building it and wondered which components people would choose.

    Assumptions:

    -budget is 2000$
    -it has to classify as a carry-on (size and weight) on an airplane
    -it has to be self sufficient for up to 5 hours
    -it has to fulfill ALL latest laptop technological expectations aka usb, wifi, bluetooth, remote control n so on
    -has to perform DR functions like gaming to some degree
    -case needs to support 200lbs on all sides (due to size it will probably need to be stacked)
    -resistant to drops for min 1meter but 2 would be the best (again stacking hazards)
    -heat expelled at any single point cannot exceed 50*C
    -has to be useable aka keyboard cant sit on top of the screen and so forth

    please dont post about how stupid or impossible it is just your creative input

    1) What size notebook would you prefer?

    Desktop Replacement; 15-17"+ screen


    2) What tasks will you be performing with the notebook?

    Powerhouse from file server thru games to navigation

    3) Will you be taking the notebook with you to different places or leaving it on your desk?

    allways on the road

    4) Will you be playing games on it; if so, which games?

    assume newest and fastest since its readily upgradeable

    5) Are there any brands that you prefer or any you really don't like?

    major brands with high durability

    6) How many hours of battery life do you need?

    5

    7) What is your budget?

    2000

    8) Do you mind buying online without seeing the notebook in person?

    either

    9) What country are you buying this in?

    USA

    Screen Specifics

    10) From the choices below, what screen resolutions would you prefer?

    best all around with high refresh rate

    11) Do you want a glossy/reflective screen or a matte/non-glossy screen?

    matte

    Build Quality and Design

    12) Are the notebook's looks and stylishness important to you?

    add your own personal touches here

    13) How long do you want this laptop to last?

    10+ years with servicing (5 actual use with upgrading)

    Notebook Components

    14) How much hard drive space do you want; 40GB to 120GB?

    .5 to 1 tetrabyte

    15) Do you need a DVD, DVD-CD/RW or DVD-R drive?

    burner +/-
     
  2. Polymorpheus

    Polymorpheus Newbie

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    ccbr01 Matlab powerhouse! NBR Reviewer

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    Only 50C? That is cool/cold for high end graphics cards. With the 7800gtx, you will be able to see 70-80C easily. You need to think about reconsidering what you want...lol
     
  4. AWVeteran

    AWVeteran Notebook Evangelist

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    well if you spread the heatsink from 2by2 cm to 4by4 you get 1/4th your original temperature (assuming nominal conditions)

    in the design i have thought out the heatsink to cover entire area beind the screen (case body)
     
  5. PHP

    PHP Notebook Enthusiast

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    Out of curiosity, how did you arrive at the 1/4th original temperature calculation? I mean what sort of geometry are you talking about?

    Also, as far as the heat sink covering the entire area behind the screen, the main problem people have with that is moving the heat to the area behind the screen. There has been research into making flexible heat pipes that will bend with the screen hinge, but as far as I know they are still in their infancy. In addition, the surface of the lid is flat so there is not that much surface area and the heat is all removed by natural convection. If you are planning on building this, I would recommend adding heat sink like fins to the surface and have a fan blowing across it. Of course, that might be overkill. Probably adding a stronger fan or two to the current laptop heat sink would make a lot of difference.
     
  6. warlord

    warlord Notebook Consultant

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    circa86 Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    some of your requests are pretty rediculous, why would any notebook need to support 200lbs on all sides?????

    and most processors idle at 50 C. atlest the higher clocked mobile processors
     
  8. warlord

    warlord Notebook Consultant

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    First of all 200lbs is not impossible. I have an aluminum clipboard that can easily support that much. And yes processors get hot, but it doesn't mean that the air extracted would be > 50 degrees.
     
  9. Shampoo

    Shampoo Notebook Deity

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    Holy crap those are some requirements.

    If you need a tough notebook, check out Panasonic's Toughbook series, but those cost more than your budget.

    You won't hit those temperature marks with any laptop that's not in full performance mode, but you can reach that target mark with any laptop in its battery saving mode, with cpu/gpu clocked down and harddrive in battery saving mode as well.

    You could check out LG, their slightly older laptops without widescreen are pretty tough and perform great, look great, slim, and really cheap.

    I saw the LS50, which is LS50>LM50, for only 1200 at Canadacomputers.com, it's got a 1.73mhz P-M, 40gig harddrive (you can upgrade later), 1gig 333ddr ram, 128mb radeon 9700, 15" XGA, ummmmm, yeah it's a great buy.

    It's really great on battery life and has some special antenna setup for better wireless connectivity, but I dunno if that's just a promotional scheme.

    It's worth a look, since that thing cost upwards of 3000+ dollars canadian, about a year and a half ago or so?

    Cheers,
    Mike
     
  10. Bamboo One

    Bamboo One Notebook Consultant

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    How about heatsink going out through the bottom and then have a seperate hollow metal compartment underneath, about 1/8" - 1/4" deep, that contained the heatsink. This would also structurally help the unit support more weight.

    As you said yourself, you are not looking for people to question what you have asked for only some ideas as to how to do it.
     
  11. daacon

    daacon Notebook Evangelist

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    Wow good luck - Most of it I would think is doable - not sure within your current budget though ...

    I think some sort of slim 'cage' could be built from "shock absorbing titanium" or something. This 'cage' would surrond the laptop around the edges (to allow keyboard access) when open and have side exstensions to cover the Lid when screen closed. That might take care of 1 - 2 meter drops and 200lbs - or have Samsonite design it hahaha it is not the fall that will hurt it , it is that sudden stop :rolleyes: