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    General upgrade... tdp's anyone??

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by moelda, Oct 2, 2009.

  1. moelda

    moelda Notebook Geek

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    Hi there,
    I am a newbie in all this laptop world so I will need to ask you about the following:

    I have an Acer 8730G and I am planning to upgrade it. Not that I need to, but hey... you always want to have as much power as you can, don't you?

    I have already added a second hard drive (WD Blue 500Gb) and changed the dvd drive for a Blu Ray one. ( Pioneer to Optiarc bc-5500s)

    I am now planning to upgrade the memory ( from 333Mhz to 800Mhz), the graphic card (from 9300M GS to 9600GT) and the processor (from the T6400 to either the T8300 or the T9300)

    The TDP, as far as the Intel website says will be the same ( 35W ) but the graphic card will go up from 13W to 23W, according to this website:
    http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-...ist.844.0.html

    How will the laptop cope with all this? (the wattage consumption)
    Will it be better to upgrade only to the 8600GT (20w) instead of the 9600GT (23w)?
    Will the memory be "eating" more power from the laptop if upgraded from333 to 800Mhz?
    What are the chances of upgrading the processor o a "P" instead of a "T" as the power consumption will be lesser (TDP25) even though the FSB is higher than my current one ( 1066Mhz vs 800Mhz )
    Will it actually work with a P8600 for example?
    I could not find any information of my mobo, only that it is the Bigbear2

    Wow.... too many questions, isn't it?? lol

    Thanks in advance.

    Sorry if my English was not good enough as I am Spanish and English is not my mother tongue... lol
     
  2. Phil

    Phil Retired

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    -You don't need a P type CPU, if you use undervolting a T type will use similar power.
    -The 8730G will have no problem handling a 9600GT.
    -Your memory upgrade doesn't make sense to me. You're probably at 667 MHz, installing 800 MHz will not make your laptop faster.
     
  3. moelda

    moelda Notebook Geek

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    The thing is that I used CPUID CPU-Z and on the Memory Tab read that the DRam Frequency was 332.6 Mhz...
    So I guess as DDR stands for Double Data Rate this means that I am on 666 Mhz...??

    Can I actually undervolt if my BIOS is locked??? I haven't yet read the "Undervolting Guide" Thread.

    May you explain why would it be better to undervolt a "T" instead of getting a "P"

    Ta
     
  4. namaiki

    namaiki "basically rocks" Super Moderator

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    Yes, you can. It's all done in software.

    Will typically be cheaper for the same clockspeed.
     
  5. Phil

    Phil Retired

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    Both T and P should be undervolted at all times. Generally speaking Ts are cheaper than Ps, that's why I recommend getting a T.

    Your BIOS does not need to be unlocked for undervolting.

    Edit: namaiki already answered. He did will :)
     
  6. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    yes.

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  7. moelda

    moelda Notebook Geek

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    Well.... all sorted then....
    That was quick guys!!
    Thanks to you all ;)

    I guess I will be buying the T8300 and the 9600GT but not the memory after all.

    Ebay... here I come!!!
     
  8. sean473

    sean473 Notebook Prophet

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    getting a T9300 or T9500 would be better...9600M Gt is a good card so go ahead getting it...
     
  9. K-TRON

    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    Because the P and T series processors have the same TDP. Intel does not test every processor individually. They bin them. So out of the 1000 or so chips they get out of a wafer, they test one. If it passes a certain voltage, than it becomes a P series chip. If it is slightly higher than that value, it is a T series chip.

    In reality, those who buy the P series chips are paying more for less. They are the same as the TDP, the actual wattage used may differ by 1Watt between the P and T series chips, not the 10 watts one may think.
    Intel can market a 10 watt chip and a 25 watt chip in the 25 watt TDP envelope.
    However they cannot by law put a 26 watt chip in the 25 watt TDP, so they put them with the 35 watt chips.

    Get a T series chip, dont waste money on a P series. In my experience, the same clocked P and T series chips showed a 4C difference in load temperature. That is basically no difference, so shoot for the T series

    K-TRON
     
  10. Peon

    Peon Notebook Virtuoso

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    While that is true, the midrange is almost completely dominated by P-series chips. There's all of 2 T-series 8x00 chips and many OEMs don't even offer them on Montevina notebooks so there's little choice for people who aren't willing to go all the way up to a T9400.