HALP! 3200 Memory bought...iz it ze best0rs? (laptop memory)

WHich memory should i buy...price is right now no object (really)
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i JUST bought this...talk me into a better buy, and why please:

Kingston Technology HyperX Impact 32GB 3200MHz DDR4 CL20 SODIMM (Kit of 2) Memory HX432S20IBK2/32

off of Amazon.com with prime to arrive April,19th

 

What notebook do you have?

DDR4-3200 is fast, but not many notebooks can be configured to run memory at that speed.

Charles

 

these are the two fastest kits available in SODIMM format: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/corsair-vengeance-ddr4-4000-sodimm-32gb-kit-review,5436.html

i got myself the G.Skill 3800 kit since it proved to be faster than the corsair 4000 due to tighter timings. currently at 3400 Mhz, but havent finished tweaking yet

what @Charles P. Jefferies said is true, anything going above 3000 mhz on laptops is not plug and play anymore, you really have to manually massage and squeeze the mhz and timings out of the RAM on laptop boards!

 

only in 8gb? do they have 16gb sticks? i can't find them anywhere

I'm on the 8705g HP Spectre with the vega M graphics

 

nope, 16 GB sticks cap out at DDR4-3200. above that theres only 8 GB sticks.

 

I have the exact same laptop. It comes with Samsung 8G 2666 MHz ram but it runs at only 2400 MHz. There is no option in BIOS or XTU to enable higher speed. Also most high frequency ram has a low frequency JEDEC SPD and a high frequency XMP SPD so you need a laptop with XMP option or manual memory setting to use the advertised frequency. The only upgrade option for this laptop is to get two 16G ram to increase capacity.

 

of you can check and go for the highest SPD speed RAM i think that would be 2800 Mhz? not sure though

 

ok, you have my attention, can you provide me a screenshot?

Could you look at my XTU thread? https://tinyurl.com/y3rujdba i need as much help as possible...i dunno wtf about this laptop...you can IM me too

Bought also the

Thanks everyone! I see in CPU-z that it's showing the memory at max 1333, so i bought two hyper-x 8gb (2x8=16) @ 2666 for the spectre as well...will return which ever doesn't work.
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What do i need to install to prove what Kers is saying b/c i think i'm missreading these benchmarks...ty

 

the reading in CPU-Z is the actual memory frequency, so 1333 Mhz real frequency is equal to 2666 Mhz DDR

 

So then, it's not what my laptop is getting? it's just what the memory IS, what what the laptop is getting? If that's so, what do i use to test these memory modules?

 

its just marketing. DDR4-3200 modules will show as 1600 Mhz in CPU-Z and that is the correct, real frequency. DDR processes two signals per clock cycle (hence the name Double Data Rate), thus 1600 Mhz at two signals per cycle is as effective as 3200 Mhz with single signal

so in your case, if cpu-z shows 1333 mhz your ram runs at 2666 mhz DDR.

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As you can see, the ram is capable of 2666 but the laptop will only run it at 2400 so buying ram with higher JEDEC frequency or XMP frequency won't help at all. For overclocking the CPU, use throttlestop. Use the "disable and lock turbo power limits" option and increase the turbo ration limits. The OC limit is 0.6 GHz. Even at stock frequency, the laptop's cooling system is not powerful enough to take away the heat so to get better performance, you need to repaste and add thermal pads.

 

ooooh snap! yeah that looks like its compleeeetely locked down on the RAM side then...that sux

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Two years ago, I bought 2 x 4GB of Kingston Fury 2400 MHz CL 14 for my 2017 HP Pavilion laptop/notebook.
If your 3200 MHz CL 20 ram runs at 2400 MHz CL14 (or less), then I would keep it.

 

yep, 2400/CL14 would actually be around 7% faster than 3200/CL20, at least going by theoretical numbers

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thanks a million!
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what about upgrading the BIOS, it seems that HP is a real troublemaker with that...are you privy to any news on the matter?

Hey Kers, i sincerly appreciate your post...would you mind making a video with walkthroughs and explanations? one to be highlighted to HP as it were so to enlighten us n00bs...b/c i can't find any documentation outside this thread on what your posting...and find it should be exemplified for all of us that own this laptop. (i'm on bios f.20 btw, and have micron memory, not samsung)

Hey bro,

Could you please be so kind as to post a link to your current vid driver for us to download?
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Thanks a million,

and the community thanks you too

Would you mind working with me in getting a crowdsourced pool to pay hackers to break the BIOS? such as those on "bios mods?"

 

Hello? Kers? Anyone?

 

All right, this topic is usefull. So if the laptop does not have XMP support our options are very limited or difficult.
Difficult because we can still gain speed if we go for the lowest Cas latency timing RAM at the max supported speed. However we do not know at 2400MHz what Cas timing will do for example the Gskill 3000MHz Cas18 RAM, which to me seems the fastest RAM on the market and only $100.
Who is gonna be the guinea pig?

 

I have this kit in 16GB (8GBx2) and it boots to 2666, timings are 17-19-19-39 2T I think, WINRAR @ 4.3Ghz w/ hyperthreading was 15,400KB/sec

 

Thank you for this update! Actually than the mentioned Gskill is not an extraordinary RAM, because there is a Kingston which makes 15-17-17 at 2666MHz.

 

It has an XMP for 17-19-19 @ 2933mhz, wish I could use XMP

 

there is always thaiphoon burner to try and change the programmed spd to tighter timings and/or higher clocks. unless the mobo doesnt support any changes whatsoever, of course...

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Can you reccommend a cheap mini ddr4 computer, which will work with Taiphoon. Because with laptops not working...

 

check and see what intel NUC like barebone system are out there. one could order one to flash the dimms, then send it back for a full refund once done

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For those that care the DIMMs use Micron

Might as well just flash stock RAM then as it's capable of decent speeds as well. CAS 20 3200 is not exactly world inspiring lol

 

currently finetuning 3400 at CL17

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You have an HM170 motherboard with a 9900K?

 

indeed i do running quite nicely, only problem being the anemic cpu VRMs on the mobo holding back clocks. thats why im only running 4.6 ghz all cores for everyday operation.

 

this guy just said only running 4.6ghz on an 8 core


Prema is sucha god.

 

xD he is!

 

HM170 is BGA (Mobile) chipset.

 

good catch buddy, naturally i have a Z170 mobo

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Yeah, with HM170 chipset you would be screwed with locked down i7-6700Hq if you didn't go with the slightly faster unlocked 4 core BGA

 

I m certainly buying a cheap Intel NUC to flash RAMs for laptops. If this the way to have fast DDR4 Sodimms...

 

By order of most important to least importance for ram

Two identical chips(seems a no brainer, but its a common mistake)>Duel Rank>2666mhz, or highest supported>Lowest latency to mhz.

here is the winner for that : https://www.hyperxgaming.com/us/memory/impact-ddr4?Speed=2666MHz&Module Capacity=16GB&Kit=Single Module - The Jedec profiles are great on this one wit no xmp needed. There is a 3000mhz duel rank with a CL of 16, but they where somewhat imfamous for stability issues, and they are more for laptop's with a desktop cpu anyway. With these chips, I can at least score consistently what is the top for the 7700hq in cinebench which is about 747.

In theory you can use thaiphoon burner and burn in a new set of profiles to run at the above profiles with most any two sticks, though very risky, and binning is variable. With how well your are binned they should do fine.

Looking at the profile for the sticks you got, they dont even have a profile for 2400, so I assume it impliments a system default? : https://www.kingston.com/dataSheets/HX432S20IB_16.pdf I would suggest taking them back and either exchanging for the ones I linked above, or these, which would save you money: https://www.amazon.com/Ballistix-Sp...06XRBTSTZ/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

 

HP will not care about your overclocking needs at all. Throttlestop tutorial is available at http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-throttlestop-guide.531329/

I have a thread dedicated to this laptop's driver at http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/hp-spectre-15-ch000-x360-i7-8705g-vega-m-gl-drivers.826827/

Modified BIOS for such a unpopular laptop is pretty much impossible.

 

hello kers, i am very much intersted in your work and research on the drivers and the intel releaseas of the hp drivers for our repective spectres...