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    HP Elitebook 8740W - End of Life rescue (Technical advice needed please)

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by UrsaZA, Mar 3, 2013.

  1. UrsaZA

    UrsaZA Newbie

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    Hi - seeing that this is my first post (up until now I have just been an information leech): greetings to a very knowledgeable community.
    Background:
    I have an HP 8740W (WD941EA)
    i7 720QM
    32GB RAM
    QUADRO FX 2800M
    Seagate Momentus XT Hybrid.
    I am in South Africa. The HP parts for this device are quite expensive.
    I have read the excellent threads on upgrading or modding this particular HP but I have a few unique questions to which I'd appreciate some answers.
    Firstly:
    This machine was originally needed for iterative numerical processing (graphics were not a consideration). It is now being replaced by a more up-to-date machine with a high end processor.
    I would like to now convert this machine into a home / gaming notebook.

    To this end, would it be possible to replace the Quadro GPU with a GeForce card? I realise this is a broad question, but I have no idea of what the technical architecture of my 8740 looks like. Is the GPU a permanent component on the board? Is it a plug in unit similar to the way desktop GPU's plug into the PCI-E slot on the mobo? Supposing that it's a slot, will the geforce physically fit into the chasis of the 8740? Will the thermal system fit? What else am I missing?

    Would I be able to replace the i7 720 QM with the i7 3720QM ? (Is the 3720QM backwards compatible with the socket the 720QM uses?) This is not a critical item for me, the 720QM is a great (except for some thermal issues) processor.

    Thanks
     
  2. tilleroftheearth

    tilleroftheearth Wisdom listens quietly...

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    I would suggest the notebook is worth more as-is than it will be if you sink a few hundred dollars into it to 'modernize' it.

    Definitely cannot replace the i7 720QM with an i7 3720QM without also changing the M/B too - and for a notebook, that is usually not an option (all notebooks are 'custom' designs).

    To see the best the notebook is capable of without spending too much money:

    Clean out chassis thoroughly - including re-applying quality TIM on the CPU and GPU heatsinks.

    Do a clean install of Win8x64 PRO - if you want to see it really fly: do this clean install on an SSD leaving ~30% unallocated capacity.

    That's it.

    Anything else is a gamble in my opinion and not worth spending time/money on such an old setup.

    If the above lets you enjoy it as a gaming machine - great! Enjoy!

    If not - make sure you haven't 'activated' Win8x64 PRO on the old setup and either use it on a new(er) system if needed (along with the SSD, of course) and enjoy what a platform upgrade vs. component sidegrades will make to your new intended use at this time.


    Good luck.
     
  3. Yegor

    Yegor Notebook Guru

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  4. Yegor

    Yegor Notebook Guru

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    you can also get a 1200p screen and I saw a thread where someone tried a quadro k5000m in one aswell.
     
  5. niffcreature

    niffcreature ex computer dyke

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    Yes, you can change the video card to a Geforce. Should work Ok.
     
  6. UrsaZA

    UrsaZA Newbie

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    Ok, so I finally got around to working on my 8740W.
    I followed @tilleroftheearth's recommendations almost entirely, except I did a fresh install of Windows 7x64 on a brand new Seagate Momentus 500GB hybrid SSD / HDD.
    Here is a summary (with pictures) of what I did, in case anyone is interested:

    Open up the machine to get to the CPU & GPU.
    IMG_20130316_150238.jpg
    Remove CPU / GPU Heat sinks. Interesting note: One of the anchor screws on the GPU was completely loose. Thw only modifications to this laptop have been additional RAM modules. The GPU has never been touched. I presume it must have come from the factory like this. I wonder what affect this has been having on thermal performance?
    IMG_20130316_151216.jpg
    Clean up:
    Get rid of dust and remove old thermal material.
    Cleaned CPU:
    IMG_20130316_152056.jpg
    Disassemble and clean fan + GPU heat sink (came apart very easily):
    IMG_20130316_154501.jpg
    Prepare CPU with new thermal material and re-install heat sink.
    Clean GPU (Nvidia Quadro FX 2800 M)
    IMG_20130316_153749.jpg
    Re-install and prepare GPU with new TIM
    IMG_20130316_160623.jpg
    Re-install GPU heat sink.
    Re - assemble laptop.

    Tools used: Torx screwdriver, cross screwdriver, compressed air blower (dust).

    I used benzine and kitchen towel to remove the old thermal material.

    I used thermal take thermal paste TIM.

    There was a considerable amount of dust on the GPU fan and radiators. I cleaned it out with the dust blower and a long bristled paint brush (synthetic bristle, brand new). Booting up for the first time - I'm blown away (pardon the pun) at how quiet the fan is now.

    The entire technical process took 2 hours.

    Re installing windows + drivers was 45 minutes.

    After installing windows, drivers and essential programs, boot up time is: 44 seconds from power button to log in screen. 10 seconds from log in to stable operation. (I'm quite happy with that).

    I will post an update on thermal performance after I've broken it in for a bit.

    Thanks again to everyone for the advice.
     
  7. KCETech1

    KCETech1 Notebook Prophet

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    very nice work.
     
  8. UrsaZA

    UrsaZA Newbie

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    Thanks. Nice specs on your 8740w. I'm going to try find a second hand m7820 + thermal system for mine. I'm snooping around for notebook scrapyards.
     
  9. KCETech1

    KCETech1 Notebook Prophet

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    I will have to update my sig sometime, my 8740W got turned into a hackintosh recently to act as a Mac Pro .. and I have bumped to a loaded 8770W with k5000 and a Precision m6700 loaded up for my heavy lifting. but they are still VERY respectable units.

    the 7820 is not an easy find but occasionally I see one on ebay, or you may get a deal from HP direct.
     
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    t.saddington Notebook Geek

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  11. UrsaZA

    UrsaZA Newbie

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    Deks Notebook Prophet

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    If your MXM slot is 3.0b (and I from what I could find online of your laptop seems to support that statement), then the 675MX should work just fine.