Hard drive in HP DV5 gets 68 C hot. How to make it cooler?

Hello guys!

I got a Scorpio Black 500GB 2 days ago.
Installed it in my Pavilion dv5-1020ev (Intel PM45 & ICH9M/M-E).

The drive seems ok, but..
I got really high temperatures, it can get up to 68 celcius after some time & load.
And I noticed that when the drive gets over 55 celcius, write speed is limited to 50mbytes/sec!
Read speed is not affected (peak is still ~105mbytes/s).

If it's under 55 celcius, the drive performs fine (write & read speed peak = ~105mbytes/s).

Is this a throttling feature due to overheating?
I don't get it.

Are these temperatures normal?
WD said they're not, but will my retailer accept to replace the drive?

I think that it's just my laptop being hot.
My previous drive (Toshiba MK2552GSX) is currently at 55 celcius too!
And I haven't loaded it much yet.

Any ideas?
I will try to take care of the high temperatures, but I really need to know if I can fix the issue with write speed.

edit:
Is this a "bug" or a real issue?

 

68 C is definetely too hot.

Operating -0° C to 60° C
WD Scorpio Black 500 GB SATA Hard Drives ( WD5000BEKT )

Try to test it in another notebook. I also expect it's your notebook and not the drive.

 

Thanks for your reply.
Any ideas on the write speed limit?

Also, check my previous post again, I added a screenshot.

I got the drive on a usb enclosure right now and it's idling at 41 c.

 

I don't know about the write speed cap... but why care. Your drive is 68 C hot!

I would get it out of that laptop a.s.a.p. Test it in another laptop so you can establish if the drive is at fault or not.

 

Well, as I mentioned, I installed the Scorpio Black in a usb enclosure (icybox) and it seems fine.
Got up to 45c after 10-15 minutes of file copying etc, and is now idling at 40c.

But what can I do to reduce temperatures in my notebook?
I can't see any options, I've ordered a notebook cooler, what else?

 

Maybe undervolting the CPU can help a bit.

You could check CPU and GPU temps to see if they are the culprit. And check with ctrl-alt-del if any process is causing to high CPU utilization.

In our HP forum there are probably more DV5 owners with overheating problems.

 

Well 68C is hotter than my cpu@load
my HDD in m1330 peaks 47C with antivurs scan,spyware scan,movies all together.Still it peaks 47C and i feel it really hot.Just check with another HDD in your system and your HDD in another system.!

 

I undervolted my CPU a year ago.
Transferred those settings to my new disk.
Runs at lowest possible voltage (0.93) using RMClock.

Guess I can't do much..

 

Try here:
HP DV5 overheating - Google Search

Ps. Cleaning the fans may also help.

 

Try following the undervolting guide. This should help drop the internal temperatures. However, it may be the GPU which is the bigger source of heat.

John

 

Well, sounds normal to me.
Dell > HP (especially these crappy pavilions)

My previous hdd (Toshiba MK2552GSX) is also very hot in my notebook (can get up to 55 c, or even more, haven't ever stressed it much), so I guess that's it..

Maybe I have to live with it, or wait for winter (summer in Greece is really hot )

 

Or get a SSD

or fast 5400rpm HDD like Seagate 5400.7 640GB.

 

Nah, I just got that beast.
Plus I can't afford a SSD.

Maybe I should just change my notebook.. maybe.. in the future

I've learned from my mistakes (I mean this pavilion, not so high quality, terrible display (viewing angles are a nightmare, seriously), heat & noise (undervolting fixed it a little)), so I'll pick a Sony Vaio/Dell for my next one.
But won't happen soon

Anyway.
Thanks a lot guys.

 

Oh guys, one more question.

Can I change thermal compound on my Pavilion?
Maybe use a AS MX3 I got on the CPU, chipset and GPU.

Sorry for double posting.

 

Take open the laptop and see if by design HP has any high head output components near the drive. There is no sense in underclocking the CPU when it is the GPU is that near the drive and causing the heat issue, and vice-versa.

You may need a physical external cooler. 68C seems excessive, but I had an old Dell Insipiron 6400 that was so poorly designed such that the hard drive was located right beside the video card and as a result, the drive could get up to 60C.

 

68C is too high.. i get 52C at worst... u got serious problems...
i think u need to undervolt CPU , change thermal paste on CPU and GPU and get a notebook cooling fan with 3 fans which blow directly into hard drive slot.. clean ur fans first with compressed air... 68C is just too high.

 

Step one: Validate the method and accuracy of how you're determining that temperature.

Step two: If the computer's operating temperature is too high, move it to a cooler environment!

It's not rocket science, and as simple as that. I do declare you may be making a mountain out of a mole hill. ALL computers need to be cooled.

 

I've already done that.

Eww, I will try to do that later.

Yeah, I got one (cheap but..) and I'm waiting for it.

Will do that.

SMART data.
HD Tune Pro, Everest Ultimate.

Well, it's kinda high, but ambient (room) temperature is fine.

 

The temperature measurement seems accurate, otherwise your write speeds wouldn't be cut in half.

 

Yeah.
Also, I removed the hdd when it got to 68 C and it was really hot to touch.

Anyway, I'm waiting for the notebook cooler.

The drive is currently idling at 55c (pretty much same idle temperature with my previous drive).

 

set the Advanced Power Management (APM) for more power efficiency
set Acoustic Management for quieter operation.

hdparm can alter these settings. WD may have some tools to do it as well.

 

Also a quick way to check too see if you temperature sensor is accurate, is to boot your notebook after it has been switched off for a few hours and then quickly check the hdd temp against your rooms temperature, they should be almost the same if the hdd temp is reading correct as long as your notebook does not take forever to boot.

 

Tried that.
Can't see any difference.

The drive does not support AAM.

Yes, it is at 32c.

 

Your supposed to compare the hdd temperature to the room temperature after the notebook has been off a few hours, as soon as you boot into windows, did you not read my post fully.

though if the area of the notebook directly above the hdd feels v-hot it most likely is overheating.

 

I did read your post.

The drive is at 32-34c just after booting.

The only thing that's really close to the hdd, actually on top of the drive, is the wifi card.
But I don't think it gets hot at all.

 

it is too high.. mine idles at 30C... i think best solution would be to drill holes in the hard drive cover to allow air to circulate more.. raise the laptop a little when in use to allow better ventillation/circulation of air under the laptop.

 

I would rma the hdd/notebook , I would not go drilling holes in it, if it`s out of warranty buy an new hdd.

The russian hdd fault report mentioned spindle baring failure as one of the top faults, when i bearing starts to fail it gets hot.

 

Guys, the drive (Scorpio Black 500) is brand new.
Got it 5 days ago!

That would void WD's warranty.
Unless you mean laptop's hard disk plastic cover.

Well, I don't think the drive is faulty.
It's just the notebook getting hot

I'll see what I can do.

 

Did your old HDD get that hot? If it didn't, or even if you never checked, I would start by returning/exchanging the drive, especially since/if it does not cost you anything to do so.

 

If your notebook is not moved around very often you could remove the hard drive cover off the bottom of the notebook, as long as the hdd is screwed in place, and not just held inn place by the cover as some are, that should reduce you temp by quite a bit.

 

the hard drive cover is what i meant lol.. i've heard of this being done on a Dv6 and it helped a lot.

 

I installed my old hdd a couple of hours ago.
Stressed it a little and it got to 60c, then I stopped.
I guess it could go even higher.

It's a 5400rpm 250GB Toshiba.

So I guess it's just my notebook.

I don't like that solution

I thought of that too.
I will see how my notebook cooler performs and I may do it.

 

Got my notebook cooler today.
It's pretty cheap but I'm impressed by the results.

It seems that it gets 10 degrees (or even more) off the hard drive.
Currently idling at 44c instead of the usual 55c.

I assume that if I drill the hard disk cover or get a better notebook cooler it'll drop more.

 

it should... the notebook cooler also helps my hard drive a lot..