Hi all.
I just finished building up a new Windows 7 desktop configured with a 64GB SSD for the C: drive and I love the 5 second power-on boot.
I would like to mod Office Depot's standard HP Pavillion dm4-2070us, replacing the 640GB SATA hard drive with a 120GB SSD, but HP presale support advises me that I will run into problems configuring HP's customized bios for SSD settings. I am not sure if they are just trying to steer me into a more expensive custom-built configuration. I'm headed over to Office Depot this afternoon to see if I can look at the bios options.
Has anyone successfully upgraded an HP dm4-2070us with an SSD, and what bios issues did you encounter? -> Thanks
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SSD is just a disk, the bios would not even know it is HDD or SSD. The only remote thing I heard about oddball BIOS are the lenovo(thinkpad) which has some proprietory sector size or whatever for security(or something like that). Even that I have my doubt but no first hand experience so can't tell. For a desktop, I would say he is b*.
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Yea, they are feeding you a good line there...the only thing you do in the BIOS is change the controller to AHCI mode. If you have that option, all is well.
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Hey madmattd, Greg, chimpanzee. Thanks for the info.
I went back to the store and poked around the bios. It was an Insyde F.03, something I have not seen before. There were no options for setting any hard disk params, and from what I have read on this forum, I guess that HP has crippled any configuration flexibility beyond the product options HP chooses to offer its customers.
I have bought 6 other HP laptops and have been generally pleased, but when I upgraded my zv6130 to a 250GB IDE, I ran into all kinds of bios problems that HP would not help me with. I just dont want to be in that position again with the dm4-2070us. -
Hey, thanks a lot for your input guys, but getting back to the OP, I am concerned about buying a laptop with an intentionally crippled bios. I see where the bios can be conveniently flashed, but is there a non-crippled bios available that will allow customized settings to be entered for system components not purchased from HP?
Again, has anyone successfully upgraded an HP dm4-2070us with an SSD, and what bios issues were encountered?
P.S. I am happy to toss everyone a rep, but I am a new user of this forum and don't see how to do this. -Thanks -
why would one want to change BIOS ? I didn't change mine when upgrading my HDD/SSD. If you mean AHCI vs PATA, it may have some performance gain in AHCI but won't stop you from working even in PATA.
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There is a MASSIVE difference in IDE versus AHCI for an SSD. Like, near 2x the performance on AHCI, pretty much across the board. Definitely worth it.
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if whether the machine can run in AHCI is the concern, just check the existing running OS and see if it is using PATA or AHCI driver.
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I found this SSD installation guide that appears to use the HP dm4, though I am not sure what specific model the writer used. I hope it helps.
Best of both worlds Part II: installing the optical bay HDD caddy - Super User Blog -
Thanks for the installation guide, mikey1388. I had not thought about the possibility of replacing the optical drive with the original hdd, but I suppose that is a possibility.
I ended up buying the dm4-2070 and thought I would time the boot-up to the Win7 login: 24 seconds from cold boot to password prompt, and 17 seconds from password prompt to desktop.
That's not bad relative to my experience with Windows XP, but I think it can be improved with a SSD. -
I finished this upgrade and am reporting back on the results.Thanks to everyone for the suggestions: Pat L in the Acronis forums: http://forum.acronis.com/forum/27658; and chimpanzee, Greg, madmattd, and mikey1388 in the notebookreview.com forums:
As a side note, HP Customer support would not provide any assistance in this modification except to try to up-sell a more expensive custom laptop. The most difficult part for me was imaging and restoring of the HDD partitions and getting the new MBR confugured for the SSD. To do this, I used ATI Home 2010 on a separate desktop computer where I could cable the Sata-2 HDD and SSD directly rather than going through a slow USB interface. Because I was operating from a desktop, the imaging and recovery could be performed using Acronis in Windows rather than the Recovery CD. Adapting Pat L's procedure from the Acronis forums, what worked for me is documented as follows:
SSD: Image, Restore, Configure
1) If the HDD the HDD which will be the source is on a system with Acronis 2010 or later:
- Make an Acronis image of the entire HDD and all its partitions.
otherwise:
- With power off, remove the HDD from the laptop and connect it to another PC with Acronis;
- For imaging speed: cable the HDD into the IDE or SATA interface rather than USB interface;
- Make an Acronis image of the entire HDD and all its partitions.
2) From Windows 7 Disk Management, make a print screen of the HDD partition allocation graphic.
3) With power off, cable the SSD into the desktop system, using the IDE or SATA interface if possible.
4) Using Windows Storage Management, allow Windows to format the SSD with a MBR configuration.
5) Using ATI2010 Home (from Windows), recover the HDD image partitions (in order) to the SSD:
- Allow for a 1MB offset for the 1st partition and resize any partitions as necessary to fit the SSD.
- As a final step, restore the MBR and disk signature.
6) With power off, cable the SSD into the laptop and attempt to boot.
My HP DM4-2070 would not boot at this point, responding with the following error message:
Window failed to start. A recent hardware or software change might be the cause.
Error: 0xc0000225 - Boot selection required device is inaccessible.
I'm not sure whether its a Windows or HP BIOS issue, but the following procedure solved the problem:
7) Boot from the CD/DVD to a Repair Console prompt from the Windows recovery disks and verify that the correct SSD partition is active (text inside parens are comments):
DISKPART
List Disk
Select DISK 0 (assuming Disk 0 is your Windows 7 SSD)
LIST PARTITION
SELECT PARTITION 1 (assuming Partition 1 is your active Windows 7 system partition)
ACTIVE
EXIT
8) Finally, initialize the SSD's MBR with the following commands:
bootrec.exe /fixmbr
bootrec.exe /RebuildBcd
At this point, the laptop boots from the SSD. Additional SSD configuration steps which are well-documented elsewhere include: verification of trim; disabling defrag; elimination of hiberfile.sys; and optimizing the size of pagefile.sys.
After all this, I'm not sure this effort was worthwhile. On my HP DM4-2070 the "improvements" are noted as follows:
- power-on boot to Windows 7 password has been reduced from 24 to 17 seconds,
- the time from password entry to stable desktop has been reduced from 17 seconds to 7 seconds,
- free hard disk space has been reduced (ouch!) from 517.19GB under the original 640GB HDD to 55.4GB under the new 120GB OCZ SSD,
- and Windows experience index has increased from 5.9 to 6.3 with HDD rated at 7.7.
Ho Hum...
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OP, no need to fiddle with the BIOS on that laptop. Just go to Device Manager, click the down arrow to open IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers. You should see a similar line to mine that says Intel 5 Series, Chipset Family 4 port SATA AHCI Controller. If it's listed, it's already on and most likely is the default.
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That is correct, thanks.
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I tried to do the same with my HP DM4 1050ea but I am having troubles.. see http://forum.notebookreview.com/solid-state-drives-ssds-flash-storage/613245-samsung-830-ssd-59.html
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My only remaining problem is replacing HP's original Intel WiFi module with a Broadcom so Bluetooth won't take up a USB port. The BIOS hardware white-list halts the boot when the Broadcom module is detected.
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I was just interested to hear if anyone else have had similar problems and I didn't want to start a new thread. It boots fine with the old installation on the mechanical drive, and I made a fresh installation on the SSD which also boots fine with only the SSD installed..
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> Have you updated your BIOS to the current F.27?
No, I think I'm still at F.14
Has anyone successfully upgraded a HP Pavillion dm4-2070us with an SSD?
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