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    Haswell Processor Lineup LEAKED!

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by HumanComputer, Dec 13, 2012.

  1. HumanComputer

    HumanComputer Notebook Guru

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    Here's the new Haswell micro-architecture lineup by Intel that's going to be released sometime in mid-2013:
    Haswell CPUs to Top Out at 3.5 GHz

    Here are some 'confirmed' new features from Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haswell_(microarchitecture):

    -Haswell New Instructions (includes Advanced Vector Extensions 2 (AVX2), gather, bit manipulation, and FMA3 support).
    -New sockets — LGA 1150 for desktops and rPGA947 & BGA1364 for the mobile market. It is possible that Socket R3 will replace LGA 2011 for server Haswells
    -Intel Transactional Synchronization Extensions (TSX).
    -Graphics support in hardware for Direct3D 11.1 and OpenGL 4.0.
    -DDR4 for the enterprise/server variant (Haswell-EX).
    -Variable Base clock (BClk)[18] like LGA 2011.
    -Supervisor mode access prevention (SMAP)

    Now the only question remaining is: buy a new laptop now or wait until 2013 for Haswell release?
     
  2. Jarhead

    Jarhead 恋の♡アカサタナ

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    If you need a computer now, buy now. Otherwise I suppose you can wait.

    My philosophy on this stuff is that if you wait for the newest tech, you'll never buy anything tech related.

    Still, pretty neat lineup. Hopefully we'll get benchmarks vs Ivy Bridge.
     
  3. baii

    baii Sone

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    Chipset detail is more important if you are waiting imo. CPU power had been overkill for a few generations already.
     
  4. Peon

    Peon Notebook Virtuoso

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    I wish the mobile CPUs had been leaked instead of the desktop CPUs. Intel has big plans for the former, whereas the latter are pretty much a known quantity at this point.
     
  5. Atom Ant

    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    Here few of them;

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    Hot, hot, hot...
     
  6. hydra

    hydra Breaks Laptops

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    3rd generation are fast..and hot. Really curious how they will compair to the current line up in the TDP area.
     
  7. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

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    DDR3 memory speed support 1600MHz only? Sheesh.
     
  8. Fat Dragon

    Fat Dragon Just this guy, you know?

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    Haswell's been talked up a lot in the past year or two, but these lineups look scarcely different from the last generation or two. Higher TDP's don't bode well for mobile progress. A couple watts might not be much, but you generally want those numbers going down with time, or at least standing pat. Maybe Broadwell will make up for that.

    What's the word on HD4600? When I think mobile CPU's, I want to see lower power usage and faster IGP's. I heard a year or so ago that Haswell was supposed to be a big jump for Intel's IGP, is that still the position? I don't expect Intel to surpass AMD's APU's in IGP power, but more progress from Intel means more motivation for AMD to keep ahead of the competition.
     
  9. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    apparently its just about the same predictions, the 4600 or 5000? should perform 50% better than the 4000
     
  10. Fat Dragon

    Fat Dragon Just this guy, you know?

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    If they can code their drivers to the same standards as AMD and Nvidia that would be a legitimate option for low- to mid-range gaming. Too bad Intel has never done so with their IGP drivers.
     
  11. danielschoon

    danielschoon Notebook Deity

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    nice it supports Ope GL 4.0 now it was only 3.X
     
  12. jaug1337

    jaug1337 de_dust2

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    "officially" :D hiihhiihihihihi
     
  13. danielschoon

    danielschoon Notebook Deity

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    Ivy can support up to 2133Mhz not? Now only the fas i7´s can support it. Im wondering if more Haswell´s will support it i hope so
     
  14. moviemarketing

    moviemarketing Milk Drinker

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    I thought those "faster" brands of RAM were only useful for overclocking CPUs prior to Sandy Bridge?
     
  15. danielschoon

    danielschoon Notebook Deity

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    no not at all. You really see a few % better CPU and GPU preformance. The integrated graphics benefit lots more
     
  16. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Considering how beefed up these new integrated graphics are supposed to be we could see really big gains going from 1600 to 1866 or even 2133mhz dimms. Could really be bandwidth starved as we hit the wall that integrated graphics can provide due to bandwidth issues.
     
  17. moviemarketing

    moviemarketing Milk Drinker

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    Doesn't the fact that Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge CPUs support multiplier overclocking make these exotic high frequency RAM sticks unnecessary? I thought they were only important for overclocking the older CPUs.

    Or are you saying that the integrated graphics particularly benefits from the RAM frequency? Can you explain a bit more?
     
  18. James D

    James D Notebook Prophet

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    Peon Notebook Virtuoso

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    Haswell supposedly has a small amount of dedicated VRAM on package, much like a discrete GPU. It probably won't be enough to store all of your textures, but it might be enough to offset the need for faster memory this generation.

    Still, I can't deny that it would be nice if Intel had raised the officially supported memory speed to DDR3-1866, though. OEMs almost always ship systems with memory that runs at the officially supported speed, and the systems most likely not to have a discrete GPU are also the ones most likely to have their RAM soldered to the mobo - Ultrabooks.
     
  20. moviemarketing

    moviemarketing Milk Drinker

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    Interesting, I had no idea how this worked.

    If you are running a 32-bit executable, however, does this eat into the maximum RAM available for the application (around 3.5 GB I believe)? Or does it use a separate pool?