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    Help me make my ram stable:)

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by moral hazard, Sep 15, 2009.

  1. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I think I have enough space. I will try to get my hands on some.

    ok, good luck :)
     
  2. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    well here is the best I can do right now:
    http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=727608

    I made a quick notbook cooler and had a 12v fan running at 15V and temps were unbelieveable, so this weekend I will probably make a better cooler with 3 12V fans @15V and see how far it goes.

    I'm impressed with how much using a cooler helps the temp.
     
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    Does your system 'really' benefit from this?

    Try a new processor or a SSD if you want added performance.
     
  4. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    actually it does really benifit, I do notice the system is quite a bit faster.

    But mostly I just wan't 3ghz, that's all.
     
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    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Right now I have ripped out 4 fans from some old PSUs.
    3 of the fans blow over 30CFM, and all fans are 12V so when I run them at 15V I should get even more CFM.

    I will run them off a very old (10 years) 15V notebook power adapter.

    Hopefully tonight I will get a chance to cut some timber and put this thing together.
    I anticipate some very low temps.
    One fan will blow onto my ram, another fan will blow into the notebook air intake, the third one will blow onto the heatpipes and the final (small) fan will blow onto the NB.

    And although the small fan looks like it must be weak, it actually blows very well.


    top left, superred CHA8012CS 44CFM.
    top right, sunon KD1208PTB3 31.1CFM.
    bottom left, yate loon d80sh-12 32CFM.
    bottom right, unknown (I took the sticker off a long time ago).
    photos:
     
  6. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I have finished making the cooler :)
    photos are attached to this post.

    I can tell you that room temp is 20C, my CPU is @ 22C idle.
    But when I turn on all 4 fans @ 15V the temp goes down to 14C in two mins.

    So now I will overclock again, hopefully this time the ram will break the 900mhz barrier.

    wish me luck ;)
     
  7. Hep!

    Hep! sees beauty in everything

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    Not very attractive, but who cares, I'm sure it's getting the job done!
     
  8. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I made it as fast as I could, so yeah it turned out very ugly :D

    Bad news though, I still cant get the memory past 900mhz.

    I BSOD @ 272.7mhz FSB.
    And this time I couldn't even turn the notebook off with the power button, I had to pull out the battery.

    And one more thing, I think that memory burn-in stuff I tried before actually made things worse.

    Because I remember it being slightly more stable @272mhz.
    But who knows, all I know is that memory burn-in doesn't help.
     
  9. TwiztidKidd

    TwiztidKidd Notebook Evangelist

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    Hey mh,

    Sorry to hear your setup did not work. I bet you put a lot into it and I know how disappointed you must be, but I'm sure you'll find a way to make it stable. Is there a way to change the CPU/RAM ratio from 3/5?

    So I went inside the laptop and I collected some info about the pll. Sorry it took me so long. Here are the pics. Don't give up!
     
  10. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Great photos, I'm looking for the datasheet now.
     
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    Thank you, I'd change anything to see this laptop oc-ed! You can have all my rep points I really don't care... if this works out, you're the best!
     
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    What do you say about that change the cpu/ram ratio idea? Not exactly the best? I know rmclock can find a way to increase the cpu voltage and set a higher multiplier. I know upgrading to a better CPU would be best but we have to work with what we got.
     
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    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Bad news, I cannot find the datasheet for the PLL.

    So now can you do this:
    select ICS9LPR316AGLF in setfsb.
    click on the diagnosis tab.
    click on "getfsb".

    If you get no error and your FSB and CPU speeds are read correctly then the PLL must be close enough.

    Also try the same thing with ICS9LPR310BGLF.


    And the last thing to test is this:
     
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    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    It is a good idea, but I have no way to change it really.
    But I will put some time into finding out a way to do it.
     
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    I tried all the PLL's on the list but none of them seem change anything. I'll have to look into PLL's pinout and data sheet specs. I'll figure it out. Thanks again!
     
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    All I wanted was too see if you could press getfsb without an error.
    So that I could look at the other PLLs datasheet and guess which pin is the TME pin.

    Most PLLs are very simmilar, they usually have pin 4 as the TME pin.

    Right now you wont be able to change the frequency because you have TME enabled.
     
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    I am getting a PLL error but I'm looking it up to bypass/disable TME.
     
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    Try setfsb's ICS9LPRS355BGLF. On my 2510P it's a TME locked PLL that setfsb somehow can still overclock. A unique one in setfsb's list. Otherwise check TME_READBACK flag as explained in PLL mod, 200mhz to 266mhz help please thread and if set, you'd need to pinmod pin4 (TME/PCI2) as per that threads instructions to be able to software overclock the PLL.
     
  19. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I hope you find the datasheet :)

    One thing you could do is send an email to IDT (people who made your PLL) and ask them for the datasheet.

    They will porbably ask what company you work for, but if you tell them you want to overclock they will probably just ask for $50.

    EDIT: I base that ^^^ off of this post:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5323493&postcount=12
     
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    Thank you nando,

    here are the results, I still think there's a hw mod needed.
     
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    Try suspending/resuming your system and retry moving the slider on setfsb to see if the FSB increases.

    My system sometimes get's into a weird state with those numbers in between suspends/resumes, but a subsequenty suspend/resume somehow gets the PLL to respond again.

    If that doesn't solve it, then would suggest pinmod to disable TME mode (pin4).
     
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