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    Help with SSD

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by -L1GHTGAM3R-, Mar 31, 2011.

  1. -L1GHTGAM3R-

    -L1GHTGAM3R- Notebook Deity

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    Just a few questions from a new SSD user...

    1.Should i do a clean install? ....Because i cloned my hd to my ssd and when i was runnin a benchmark my computer completely froze
    2. Should my ssd idle at 38c and max out at 54c
    3. is 5.7 in WEI for my ssd low

    The netbook is in my sig hp mini 311
    This is the SSD i got
    FRYS.com | KINGSTON

    anything i have to do in order for it to run at peek performance

    THANKS IN ADVANCE!!!!
     
  2. Judicator

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    A clean install is pretty much almost always recommended if possible. The temperatures seem mildly high, but still well within tolerances; and the temperature will often depend on the notebook model anyway.
     
  3. BeastRider

    BeastRider Notebook Evangelist

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    1. You should definitely do a clean install, I believe it has something to do with the TRIM and other features to work properly, I believe they don't work properly without a clean install.

    2. Those temps are pretty normal, it be cooler though..

    3. Not sure on the kingston but most other SSDs get a 7.2 or above on WEI..I have no idea if the WEI score is affected by other components of the machine..

    Is it a SATA 2 laptop? Maybe the drive is being downgraded to a SATA 1 platform..

    Check this link to optimize your SSD..It is optional though, you may or may not gain anything from the tweaks..Cheers :)
     
  4. chimpanzee

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    the only 'potential' disadvantage of clone is the alignment may be wrong, clean install of vista/w7 would make sure it is right.

    how did you clone it ?
     
  5. -L1GHTGAM3R-

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    thanks guys for the help.... rep for u guys......
     
  6. BeastRider

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    Try checking those stuff out and post feedback so other experts can tell you if you're getting what you paid for.. :)
     
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    Will do a quick crystaldiskmark when i have time?
     
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    Only if you really wanna know if it's performing exactly the way you want it to..If you feel contented then just enjoy your ssd.. :) Again, you probably won't notice the differences between these ssds..
     
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    The Kingston V100 is what I would call a 3rd tier drive (well, maybe 4th tier, now, with the new releases), so upgrading to a "better" SSD might be noticeable. Then again, considering that we're talking about a netbook here, it's probably not worth the trouble or the money.
     
  10. J&SinKTO

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    Have a Kingston 128GB in my Sony Netbook - the SSD will help considerably - but if you're looking for a 'wow' factor - don't expect it on a netbook. Not saying it is bad, or not a good upgrade - just realize the chipset/processor is really the majority of the limiting factor.
    Overall, happy with the upgrade did to my netbook - it turned the system into something I can travel and work with.

    Just checked my netbook WEI score (clean install of Win 7) = 6.7 on a Sony Netbook (Atom N450 CPU).
    Benchmarks are a nice way to ensure it is delivering your SSD speed you paid for. Another simple one - run an AV or malware scan and then open 1-3 other applications - if does it quickly you have your benchmark from a practical standpoint.
     
  11. BeastRider

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    But it did make your notebook quicker in general right? I mean do the other parts of a system affect the ssds performance?
     
  12. tilleroftheearth

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    Does other parts of the system affect - any - other parts of the system?

    Of course!

    That is why all/most review sites give a full disclosure on their test setup.

    Don't expect a netbook platform to reach the 'scores' most drives can on a tweaked and pimped desktop screamer (most with powersavings features and Turbo (for less variance) disabled).


    From Anandtech for their most recent SSD test bed:

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    The Test
    [TABLE=border='1' cellspacing='0' borderColor="#dddddd" cellpadding='3' width='502' align='center'][TR][TD=bgcolor='#eeeeee' valign='top' align='left'][B]CPU[/B][/TD][TD=bgcolor='#f7f7f7' align='left']					Intel Core i7 965 running at 3.2GHz (Turbo & EIST Disabled)
    					Intel Core i7 2600K running at 3.4GHz (Turbo & EIST Disabled) - for AT SB 2011, AS SSD & ATTO
    [/TD][/TR][TR][TD=bgcolor='#eeeeee' valign='top' width='161' align='left'][B]Motherboard:[/B][/TD][TD=bgcolor='#f7f7f7' width='323' align='left']					Intel DX58SO (Intel X58)
    					Intel H67 Motherboard
    [/TD][/TR][TR][TD=bgcolor='#eeeeee' valign='top' width='161' align='left'][B]Chipset:[/B][/TD][TD=bgcolor='#f7f7f7' width='323' align='left']					Intel X58 + Marvell SATA 6Gbps PCIe
    				Intel H67[/TD][/TR][TR][TD=bgcolor='#eeeeee' valign='top' width='161' align='left'][B]Chipset Drivers:[/B][/TD][TD=bgcolor='#f7f7f7' width='323' align='left']					Intel 9.1.1.1015 + Intel IMSM 8.9
    					Intel 9.1.1.1015 + Intel RST 10.2
    [/TD][/TR][TR][TD=bgcolor='#eeeeee' valign='top' width='161' align='left'][B]Memory:[/B][/TD][TD=bgcolor='#f7f7f7' width='323' align='left']				Qimonda DDR3-1333 4 x 1GB (7-7-7-20)[/TD][/TR][TR][TD=bgcolor='#eeeeee' valign='top' width='161' align='left'][B]Video Card:[/B][/TD][TD=bgcolor='#f7f7f7' width='323' align='left']				eVGA GeForce GTX 285[/TD][/TR][TR][TD=bgcolor='#eeeeee' valign='top' width='161' align='left'][B]Video Drivers:[/B][/TD][TD=bgcolor='#f7f7f7' width='323' align='left']				NVIDIA ForceWare 190.38 64-bit[/TD][/TR][TR][TD=bgcolor='#eeeeee' width='161' align='left'][B]Desktop Resolution:[/B][/TD][TD=bgcolor='#f7f7f7' width='323' align='left']				1920 x 1200[/TD][/TR][TR][TD=bgcolor='#eeeeee' width='161' align='left'][B]OS:[/B][/TD][TD=bgcolor='#f7f7f7' width='323' align='left']				Windows 7 x64[/TD][/TR][/TABLE]
    See:
    The Crucial m4 (Micron C400) SSD Review - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News
     
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  13. BeastRider

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    I don't expect my laptop to be better than any of those systems. Of course I know all parts make a big difference, what I meant was, would installing an ssd on a system that isn't as great as those monster rigs still make a significant difference from mechanical drives. Cause there are a lot of comments and posts that say they installed an SSD in an old system and the system's performance still improved significantly.
     
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    I have yet to try putting an SSD into a netbook/nettop platform.

    But, on my platforms (first gen iCore's w/8GB RAM) I have yet to see 'significant' for my uses. 'Snap'? Sure, but not the 100x range that benchmarks lead you to believe.
     
  15. chimpanzee

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    100x ?

    At work I would say it can enhance my productivity by 10-15%, depending what I was doing. And that is the only machine I use SSD. The rest, still 7200rpm HDD.
     
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    I have SSDs in both my main notebook (Sony FW 16.4" - with Intel 160GB) and based on the impact it made there, bought one for the netbook (Kingston).
    Did it make a difference - absolutely. Take a normal netbook and your first actions/response from it is - WAIT. The things are just slow. Yes I realize these things are basically e-mail checkers and browser machines - but the SSD made it so I could travel with it and use for my work/business applications. Granted not as snappy as my main rig, but still very usable.
    A friend saw my netbook and the speed it worked at and he promptly bought a SSD and had me install it - he too travels with it now.
    If your on the fence about a SSD - go for it - you won't regret the impacts it provides for productivity and speed. I'm constantly frustrated with some of our other work machines that have 4200 RPM drives in comparison to the SSDs I use in my systems.
     
  17. -L1GHTGAM3R-

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    Heres my results for crystaldiskmark dont know exactly what they mean but here they are.....
     

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    About those Crystal results you had:
    According to the specs of V100 64 GB from Kingston.com
    Kingston Technology Company - SSDNow Product Information - SSDNow V100 Drive
    Sequential Read: 250MB/s
    Sequential Write: 145MB/s
    Sadly doesnt say anything about 4K random R/W

    I found a review from a site that tested the same drive and they got:
    Read Sequential: 199MB/s (You got 238.9MB/s)
    Write Sequential: 86MB/s (You got 130MB/s)
    4K Read: 12.3MB/s (You got 10MB/s)
    4K Write: 11.8MB/s (You got 16.31MB/s)
    Kingston SSDNow V 100 64GB 2.5 Inch / D100811a - SSD Review - SSD Reviews, Data Sheets and Comparison - ssdreview.com

    So from the looks of it you scored way better than this review and close to what the specs from Kingston says. :)
     
  19. -L1GHTGAM3R-

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    Wow nice find ......makes me feel a lot better now hahaha....plus rep for you :)
     
  20. BeastRider

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    Great! Just as I thought..Now back to saving up some more cash..Just have to wait a little longer and byebye 7200rpm drive lol.. :D
     
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    Great news to hear your ssd works perfectly.. :D Even better than the benches actually.. :)