Here come the high-res laptops

About a year ago I was searching for an upgrade to my 1920x1200 laptop screen.... well as everyone knows they stopped producing them. Almost everyone in the forum said they dropped to 1920x1080 and were not going to get any better than that.

About a month ago Intel had this to say:

Intel says to expect Retina Display quality laptops, all-in-one desktops in 2013 | ZDNet


I'm sure other makers will follow and by 2013, we all should be back in business with high laptop resolution displays. Now just have to wait about a year to upgrade...

Screw you 1920x1080 !

 

I'm an idiot and edited my post. Now only I linked to the Intel article which indeed does have very high resolutions.

 

That is great news, but will believe it when I see it. Although I don't see it as a positive for gaming since IGP already has trouble doing well at 720p, now I can't imagine 2800x1800 or 3840x2160. Heck most notebook GPU's even the 7970m will have trouble running at those resolutions with high settings. I sure hope nVidia and AMD have something significant up their sleeves to address this.

 

Can't wait for retina, when will the screen resolution go over 1080p ? Come on Manufacturer please provide us some Monster Screens

 

The problem I see is this will raise the cost of laptops considerably, and if it doesn't they will be swapping screen quality for pixel count.

Its like moving to glossy all over again, find a feature people like and sell off of that instead of good ol' fashion high quality products.

 

But you can always game on 720p, windows will run in these highres formats, same for nextgen 4k movies, applications, etc.
Older games wil even run native (TF2, DOTA2, Diablo3, L4D, etc)
I already max these games @ 1080p with a 5830M, which isnt exactly the most hardcore gpu ever made. Also keep in mind, hardware will be 2 years further too (22nm)

@Vicious
I hope IPS can become a standard

Anyway cant complain with my current screen, one of the better out there

 

Don't care for the gaming aspects, but have to agree that the gpu/igpu's have to get much better in the average build to simply drive two or three (or more) of these display resolutions adequately (in simple '2D' mode).

Also hope that by the time this is released, Windows 7 will have finally been patched to properly scale text and windows controls properly!

 

Theoretically, this 'might' drive chip makers into creating electronics using synthetic diamonds (and possibly graphene).
Realistically, synthetic diamonds were viable for 'cheap' production in 'near perfect' quality since 1996 - but since we know how the market works, breakthroughs in technology take a LONG time to get adapted (first because of patents that put this on hold until 2004, an second if they are seen as 'cheap' (for the company) to do so - although there's something to be said if they wish to pave the way to be the 'leader' in this area too).

Having said that, creating core electronics from synthetic diamond alone could yield in 40x higher performance while severely reducing power requirements and heat output.
Grapehene is about 2 or 3x better than diamond, so in combination, both could be utilized to create orders of magnitude powerful chips that barely draw any power by comparison to what we use now.

Although I have a feeling that this kind of radical advancement won't be released immediately (let alone across the board).
They will have to research on how to create long term profits from those materials (which would probably entail creating a 'retarded' product that they will periodically 'improve' or 'revise' to generate more profits with time - same as they are doing with silicon - why release the 'best' immediately when you can milk people for some time to come - add in socket changes [which are completely unjustified] and voila).

Silicon as such is already being stretched to its limits as is.
My guess is that they will consider using synthetic diamonds as a hybrid with silicon in sufficient enough quantities to generate higher performance (sufficient for the resolutions as mentioned) without increasing power demands that much (or essentially reducing them just enough to show progress in this area).

 

Scaling on LCD is far from a good solution. It does depend on the game, but if I try to play BF3 for example at 720p on my 1080p screen, it looks horrendous. Even 8xAA can't make it that enjoyable. But 8xAA takes significant bandwidth, and likely can play better at 1080p no AA vs 720p with 8xAA. If you play older games, then great. If you don't then you're screwed.

And imagine that 5830m outputting at maximum detail at 3840x2160. Try outputting your games to dual 1080p screens, and it still won't match the total pixel count of the newer 4k display, and it will struggle. One thing that will help is vector graphics, but that would take entirely new architecture in GPU's to even think about making it real-time. But it would scale very well that way.

 

If you have 4x the native res it should scale pretty well. Like 2732x1536 if you want to run at 1366x768. 4 pixels for every rendered pixel, so it should be just as sharp as a native 768p panel.

 

high-res (density) screens arnt about gaming or even higher def videos. Those two applications will stay in the 1080p range for the foreseeable future.

high density screens are about image quality and productivity (text and images will be sharper, and you can fit more on the screen).

 

Your wish is Nvidia's command. Their soon be released innovations are scheduled to increase GPU efficiency exponentially.

In all fairness, there will always be those markets: some just want to surf the web, while others won't settle for anything other than the latest and best technology can offer. Remind you of anyone?

 

apple is supposed to be announcing a hi-res laptop on monday

 

Yeah I should have mentioned this was for non-apple fans.

Personally I was extremely disappointed I had to buy a macbook pro for a high res display. I just don't want an apple.

So, I was very excited to see it was finally coming to other manufacturers.

 

I'll be waiting for the manufacturers to start putting out higher resolution screens now, but I still want the same actual space 1920x1080 gives me now at 120ppi. A doubled up 1366x768 screen is worthless to me if you have to make everything twice a big.

 

its called a high res screen...not retina

 

nah retina refers to the fact that if viewed from the suggested distance (or greater), the cells at the back of your eye (the retina) will be unable to distinguish between the pixels.

 

High Res, well. The "retina" word is used by nearly all people while talking about high res displays.

 

Retina is just a goofy Apple buzzword. Kill it with fire.

 

I believe Apple announced an addition to their laptop line with some form of "Retina" display yesterday. While I dislike Apple (as do some other posters here) I welcome what they bring with the hopes it will push it towards becoming some kind of standard. If it is like Thunderbolt and co-developed with Intel, it will become a feature for sure in the not to distant future. I wonder if desktop displays will also start seeing these kind of pixel densities. If a laptop screen can have it, there's really no excuse.

 

Yeah for the low price of $400 more than last Year's MacBook Pros, you can get the new displays.

Apple was always expensive, but now it's even moreso. Hopefully these prices won't translate to the PC market as sharply.

 

if anything it gives ultrabook oems more reason to deliver hi res screens on the cheap

 

I`d gladly pay a premium for a Retina display

 

Apple have just released a new MBP line with a high resolution "retina" display. I personally can't stand apple, but the displays do seem like a pretty neat thing, even if it is priced ridiculously high for what it is. They'd also be a pain to drive, four times as many pixels aren't gonna be easy to do anything 3D with.

What I don't understand is that they made a notebook known for overheating problems even thinner. Apple, get your act together. I know it's 22nm and all but there's barely enough space to cool a calculator in there, putting full on x86 hardware in there is just asking for trouble.

 

As would most people who are involved in graphics art, photo, and/or video and design. And of course, those that are just fans of high quality items.