The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.

    How does an average user benefit from i7?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by DarthWayne, Dec 19, 2009.

  1. DarthWayne

    DarthWayne Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    28
    Messages:
    174
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    31
    the thing is damn fast and has quad core.


    i was wondering on consumer laptops..what apps will really benefit from such a powerful processor?


    i make amateur music, watch movies, surf a lot, play games, do multi-tasking and my processor is easily handling all this stuff.


    now what kind of apps need i7?

    coz i saved around $600 by not goin for i7 based laptops
     
  2. Ramzii

    Ramzii Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    263
    Messages:
    407
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Just picture your pc.. with all its speed. And now picture an i7, which does all those things.. even faster!!

    No I dont know really, the only thing I can compare it with is my old desktop AMD 3500+ single core...

    People talk a lot about multi-threaded applications/games.. they say i7 CPU's can handle those like no other. But I dont really know how i can lookup how many threads a game is using? Otherwise it wouldve become clearer for me.
     
  3. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

    Reputations:
    7,279
    Messages:
    10,304
    Likes Received:
    2,878
    Trophy Points:
    581
    Its kinda obvious
     
  4. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    2,972
    Messages:
    7,788
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    nah, for that you need them on an ssd.. :)


    one thing the i7 does, is very fast reacting on workload. f.e. if you scroll in an app and it wasn't perfectly smooth, chance is high, it's smooth on an i7, as it will overclock that thread just while you scroll (as they demonstrated it).

    so it should add quite a bit to the snappiness factor.

    other than that, yes, it's just very fast, so everything you do should be fast :)
     
  5. Partizan

    Partizan Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    241
    Messages:
    1,697
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    The best advantage for an average user is that the i7 will make the prices of old processors such as the core 2 duo's decline, which should still be more than good enough for your average needs.
     
  6. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    2,779
    Messages:
    7,957
    Likes Received:
    87
    Trophy Points:
    216
    When it's cold, you can count on the CPU to keep you warm.
     
  7. Partizan

    Partizan Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    241
    Messages:
    1,697
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    You don't need core i7 for that, my old acer with c2duo from 2007 already did that, with far more succes.
     
  8. Serg

    Serg Nowhere - Everywhere

    Reputations:
    1,980
    Messages:
    5,331
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    206
    So did my 2007 Dell Vostro if stressed...

    i7 Arrandale is a far better solution as it has switchable graphics and 32nm, so it means faster processing, better battery life, GPU and IGP available, smaller design, better cooling, TB and HT enabled...not too shabby!
     
  9. DarthWayne

    DarthWayne Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    28
    Messages:
    174
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    31
    no wonder i could get my laptop for such a lower price.
     
  10. BrandonSi

    BrandonSi Notebook Savant

    Reputations:
    571
    Messages:
    1,444
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    For your average user who doesn't push the laptop to the edge, there's no need for an i7, other than to have it last longer when more demanding software comes out. Sounds like you made the right call for your needs.

    In general, photo editing, A/V editing and transcoding, and anything "math" related will benefit from more cores/processing power. Watching movies, surfing, etc.. you're probably not going to notice much of a difference.
     
  11. jackluo923

    jackluo923 Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    1,038
    Messages:
    3,071
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    105
    You get bragging rights.
     
  12. Bog

    Bog Losing it...

    Reputations:
    4,018
    Messages:
    6,046
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    206
    A Pentium 4 Prescott core running at a "cool" 3.4GHz would do the trick just as well. And yes to answer your implicit question, manufacturers were stupid enough to put that CPU into their laptops.

    BrandonSi is more or less correct. Most average users don't make even make full use of their Core 2 Duo processors. There are much more beneficial upgrades to be had for the average user. Ex, an SSD.
     
  13. $immond$

    $immond$ Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    257
    Messages:
    279
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    My i7 @ 4.0 Ghz isn't even that great. I am not sure why people are hyping over it. Intel going to release 6 and 8 core CPU's soon and I am sure AMD is developing new CPU's to be more competitive with Intel.
     
  14. Bog

    Bog Losing it...

    Reputations:
    4,018
    Messages:
    6,046
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    206
    It's not great? What are you using it for?
     
  15. $immond$

    $immond$ Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    257
    Messages:
    279
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Its not that great, I use it for VMs and gaming and playing with Linux Distros.
    I just think greatness of this CPU is way over hyped.
     
  16. BrandonSi

    BrandonSi Notebook Savant

    Reputations:
    571
    Messages:
    1,444
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    On a desktop, I agree. Your i7 @ 4.0GHz is pretty meh, you can certainly do better if you want to spend the money.

    However, for notebooks, there are limits. An i7 @ 4GHz in a notebook is a pretty big deal, definitely worthy of the hype.

    Intel already has 6 core cpu's, and has for a while now.
     
  17. $immond$

    $immond$ Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    257
    Messages:
    279
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30

    There really isn't much better for desktops at this point that is until AMD can get its in gear. As for notebooks I doubt Id get an i7 set up. I want at least cooler chips and better battery life from Intel before I jump on the fan boat. And the 6 core still hasn't been made public for purchase yet. In fact if you really want to do your home work, 80 core processors have been around for a while as well.
     
  18. BrandonSi

    BrandonSi Notebook Savant

    Reputations:
    571
    Messages:
    1,444
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    I assume you're referring to Gulftown, and yes, you are right, it has yet to be released. But as I said, Intel has had a 6 core for a while now.

    http://www.google.com/search?q=E7450
     
  19. $immond$

    $immond$ Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    257
    Messages:
    279
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    http://techresearch.intel.com/articles/Tera-Scale/1449.htm
    Yes and so have 80 core processors.

    In fact even 48 Core Processors may hit the average consumer in the next several years.

    http://www.techpowerup.com/109688/Futuristic_Intel_Chip_Could_Reshape_How_Computers_are_Built.html
     
  20. BrandonSi

    BrandonSi Notebook Savant

    Reputations:
    571
    Messages:
    1,444
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
  21. $immond$

    $immond$ Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    257
    Messages:
    279
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    The 6 core should hit Q1 2010, but I doubt its going to be a vast improvement over the current i7 line up.
     
  22. Bog

    Bog Losing it...

    Reputations:
    4,018
    Messages:
    6,046
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    206
    I agree, multi-core performance benefits decline with the addition of more cores.
     
  23. $immond$

    $immond$ Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    257
    Messages:
    279
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30

    Depending on the application, but I don't think 6 cores is going to make a huge increase in fps for gaming. I mean if your running 2 vms at once it may help but when you get to that point you might as well have a another machine solely dedicated to what ever OS your running or experimenting with.
     
  24. BrandonSi

    BrandonSi Notebook Savant

    Reputations:
    571
    Messages:
    1,444
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    I agree. There are plenty of uses for a 6-core cpu, but gaming isn't really one of them. My i7 handles two VM's at the same time nicely as well, so I certainly wouldn't upgrade just for that.
     
  25. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    2,972
    Messages:
    7,788
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    gaming will benefit of anything that has a certain market share. it's unimportant if it's high clockrate, multiple cores, special cpu math units, gpu's, physics units, etc.. they will use ANYTHING they can. but after 1-5 years earliest. when it gets mainstream in the highend
     
  26. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

    Reputations:
    3,973
    Messages:
    13,930
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    None.... Face book minimum requirements are a intel i468
     
  27. Peon

    Peon Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    406
    Messages:
    2,007
    Likes Received:
    128
    Trophy Points:
    81
    PC gaming needs are slowing down... In the old days, people would need to upgrade their CPU and GPU every 12-18 months just to get the game to not crash on start up, but these days, a 2 or 3 year old computer is still perfectly viable for playing new games on medium settings.

    The fact that 2-year-old Crysis is still considered a fairly demanding game today doesn't help either.
     
  28. $immond$

    $immond$ Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    257
    Messages:
    279
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30

    I agree an i7 is not going to benefit an average user. An average user wont need so much processing power for web browsing and downloading music.

    That is until webpages/web apps and p2p programs start requiring a quad core cpu and an Nvidia 260 GTX or similar specs.

    what are the requirements for farm town?
     
  29. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

    Reputations:
    3,973
    Messages:
    13,930
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    um you dont need a GTX 260m to play fish world


    GMA chip and a Pentium 4 thats all you need
     
  30. $immond$

    $immond$ Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    257
    Messages:
    279
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I guess you haven't heard of sarcasm, or read my post. :radar:
     
  31. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

    Reputations:
    3,973
    Messages:
    13,930
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    ....................................
     
  32. $immond$

    $immond$ Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    257
    Messages:
    279
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30


    You didn't even read my post now did you? Let me make it clear:

    "I agree an i7 is not going to benefit an average user. An average user wont need so much processing power for web browsing and downloading music.

    That is until webpages/web apps and p2p programs start requiring a quad core cpus and an Nvidia 260 GTX or similar specs.

    what are the requirements for farm town?"

    "I never said facebook requires a quad core and an Nvidia 260 GTX"
     
  33. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

    Reputations:
    3,973
    Messages:
    13,930
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    look you want to insult me ? We had a mis understanding and i thought you were serious and i understand what your saying ... i don't need bold print as i am not stupid ;)


    With that i think i will leave
     
  34. $immond$

    $immond$ Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    257
    Messages:
    279
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30

    I thought you had selective reading as you seem to take note of all the buzz words instead of what I was actually saying.
     
  35. sean473

    sean473 Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    613
    Messages:
    6,705
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Well basically it can do stuff way faster... also might help a little in CPU intensive games like GTA 4... also gives u bragging rights :D :D :D :D :D