How fast is the Turion?

Hi everybody,

I am contemplating the purchase of a Compaq Presario v5000z with a Turion 64 ML-32 1.8GHz processor. I have been trying to find some benchmarks and comparisons of this processor with others but have not been finding out too much information. Does anyone know how the Turions compare with Pentium M's or the desktop Pentium 4's?

My desktop computer has a 2.0GHz Pentium 4 (it's about 4 years old). Will the 1.8GHz Turion be faster, slower, or about the same as this processor?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

The turion ML32 is much faster than the P4 2GHz. The turion tests turned out to be overall better compared with the Pentium M. The Pentium M is however a bit more power efficient (better battery life) but only when performing intesive CPU tasks.
The turion is a 64 bit processor so I would choose it over a Pentium M
for the future proffing. Hope that helps

 

Clock for clock, the Turions compare favorably with the Pentium M. The Turion ML 32 should be more or less equivalent to a Pentium 4 running @~2.8 - 3.0Ghz. Search for benchmarks for the Athlon64 as the Turions are based on the same platform.

 

turions are well.....they are turions. they are more efficient clock-per-clock than any mobile processor (save Core Duo/Solo/Core Duo 2) so yes...they are a bit more efficint than Pentium M's, but if you want longer battery...Pentuim M is the way to go. if not then Turion is the way to go......but reallly......the Pm's only have about 30-45 minutes more battery life.....so.......i say the choice is up to you.

 

Not always Dee, for example, the V2000 with the 6-cell battery and a Pentium M gets 3.5+ hours of battery life, whereas, it's AMD counterpart the V2000Z gets 2.5+ hours.

 

But for multitasking, Pentium M do favourably better than Turion, whilst core duo is another story

 

Haha where did u guys get the idea that the Turion is better than the Pentium M!? In extensive testing the Pentium M was clock for clock a far better better performer across every benchmark! Even in the most heavy dutu of tasks, the Pentium M kicked ass with the turion which is also terrible for overheating and has poor battery life!. In a test conducted that compared almost every Pentium M and Turion from 1.6-2Ghz.. the PentiumM 1.86(750) actually outperformed an overclocked 2ghz Turion!!(clocked to 2.2Ghz) Not to mention the standard Truion 2ghz. And the 2.0Ghz pentiumM TOTALLY creamed the overclocked and standard Turion 2.0ghz! The reason why they had to overclock the Turion was because it was performing pretty poorly compared to its PentiumM counterpart. And if u compared the equivelent cpus.(1.6PM-1.6T/1.8PM-1.8T), there was simnply no competition.
In one on the many tests carreid out, they setup a system that only differed in the cpu and ran the likes of DOOM3, Far Cry and so on to really test the cpu's raw power and the games ran at fewer frame rates when the turion was inside..and the graphics card was obviously unchanged.
This was the most in depth and extensive test ever to be carried out to compare the cpu's and no other test would be as thorough.

 

well, you havent obviously seen this review....
http://www.laptoplogic.com/resources/detail.php?id=17&page=8

Heat output of the Turion is comparable to the Pentium M and Reize the V2000 with the Pentium M does not give 3.5hrs with the 6 cell. More like 3hrs. My brother has one and usually the battery lasts anywhere between 2.5hrs and 3hrs.

 

core duo smashes all of those in benchmarks. Why not get that?

 

The Core Duo is faster, but it all depends on what you plan to do with the laptop and the price point and the features you are looking at.

 

Turion ML runs hotter than Pen-m.
cooler=better is always true.

 

Miner that review is a fraction of the size of the one i read a month or so ago.. The review u just showed me is comparing jst 1 cpu of each make.. the one i have.. if i can find it for u compares 5 PM's and Turion's together and overall the PM's TRASH the Turions

 

I was the one who originally asked the question, "How fast is the Turion?" By some of the replies I've been seeing, it appears as it is slower than a comparable Pentium M (and perhaps much slower?). Is the Turion a worthwhile CPU for the price savings over a Pentium M? How much better is it than the AMD Sempron? I basically do word processing, spreadsheets, cruise the web, email, and maybe play Unreal Tournament 2004. Would a Pentium M be a better fit or will even a Sempron perform my menial tasks?

Sometimes I wonder if the technology has advanced so much that pretty much any processor can handle the majority of a basic user's task and that only the gamers need the faster processors. Please correct me if I am wrong as I am still learning just what really is needed in a notebook. (My old desktop with a 2.0GHz Pentium 4 runs my apps just fine!)

Thanks for all the info, I am learing a lot!

 

The Sempron is an excellent cpu..far better than a Pentium4..
As a matter of fact the sempron,CeleronM,PentiumM and Turion are all good cpu's and are all way better than a Pentium4. If u were asking if it is worth saving a bit of cash getting a Turion instead of a PentiumM..yes certainly. The differences arent huge and dont forget that you are getting 64bit support with the Turion. I myslef have no problems with the Turion and 2 of my friends in fact have Acer Ferrari's which have Turions in them and are great...(overheat a little tho).. But apart from the overheating and a little less battery life, you should notice no difference between a Turion and a PentiumM, especially when just using a laptop for everyday tasks.. The turion was the first real attempt by AMD to make a mobile cpu that would hold up against a PentiumM(Centrino) and they did a good job. It is a good cpu!
The only problem i really have is when people who dont really know anything try to say that Turions (as good as they are), are faster than a PentiumM, which simply isnt the case.
But then again, the differences will not be noticable when using a laptop for general purpose things..

 

its a pretty nice cpu if I say so my self. My system below with a mt40 turion beats my p4 3.2ht oc'd in all bench marks except video. The grfx in my oc'd sff are the only reson I still have it around.

 

the reason anything is better thea p4 (minus the ht) is netburst. The celeron you can remove as it uses net burst as well. Granted my little bro has a 2.0 sempron that does pretty well, but it by no means touches my 3.2ht p4, even at normal clocks mine flies when compared. But cpu's like the turion and core due will blow my oc'd 3.2, as I stated in another thread my 2.2 turion did superpi a full second faster then the p4. So if you are going for any cpu today for tomorrow get a turion for single core cpu and core duo for dual core. No other cpu should be branded as performance (save for higher end Pm's). You can say what you want about turions vs. Pm but there was a reason I choose that over the Pm (in a perfect world where I have money I would have gone duo )

 

Well u can have your opinion that Turions are better than Pm's. But the simpe FACT is that theyre not! Iv looked into this for a long long time, all of my friends have Computer Tech degrees (except me) and half have Turions and they all agree. PentiumM's are better in pretty much every way(performance, heat, power usage) We've done home testing and testing in my friends computer business which is involved in providing all types of computers/laptops to clients. Tests that far exceed what u have done with ur P4 3.2. You say the Turion beat ur P4 3.2ht by an absolute tiny tiny margin..Well that could have been the result of so many causes. The slightest difference in system setup could have resulted in such a marginal performance difference. Im sure your happy with ur Turion and want to believe that it is the best single core cpu but im afraid my friend that it isnt..

 

a degree doesnt mean anything, I have a degree in computer science on top of industry certs. Does that mean I know everything? NO

I never said that it was the best cpu, just that clock for clock a turion is slightly better then a Pm. You can benchmark til your hearts content, but Ill take real world performance over that anyday. Besides your welcome to try a Pm 2.2 system up against mine any day. Also explain to me these "causes" you speak of. Both Super pi tests were done after a fresh restart so no memory leaks. Im just saying that now I have a laptop with similar performance as my desktop at home.

The main point I was making is that for a single core CPU the turion is the best bang for your buck and will match anything intel has to offer. Plus try and get a 2.2 Pm for $269 shipped I dare you.

 

The fact that my friends have computer degrees was nothing to do with it and i never said "they knew everything"..I simply added that to show that we werent some amateurs testing things out. And you speak of "real world performance".. Well two of them friends i mentioned have Acer Ferrari's with the 2.0Ghz Turions that they spent alot of money on. They are good laptops and so on but my other mate who has a top of the range Acer Aspire(2.0Ghz PentiumM) doesnt over heat or use up the battery life as fast with general use. (apart from the difference in cpu's the spec of the laptops are identical)
I couldnt believe that amount of heat blowing out of the side of the ferarri when i was just surfing the internet! And they had all remarked on it. In terms of everyday usage however, you arent going to notice the difference between a 2.0Ghz Turion/PentiumM performance wise and it is only through the use of the benchmarks that u will see the difference..
My friends love their laptops and wanted to test them out so ran Mobile Mark/ Super Pi etc..and the PentiumM Aspire defeated the Turion Ferrari by a small but significant amount.. In the super Pi, i think there was a 4-6 second advantage with the PentiumM.

Now u are not going to get a closer test bed than that!

Both identical Laptops from the same manufacturer
Only difference in body design is the nice ferrari touches on the Turion Model
Same internal components except for the obvious difference of Turion vs Centrino..
This comparison is perfect as you can match exactly the advantages of identical laptops kitted out with different processing power (you can see differences in heat production+battery life)

Thats ur real world performance!..

And in terms me saying that the pentiumM is faster clock for clock than the Turion..well that was based on the testing done above, on other computer makes we had handy (HP Pavillion Turion vs Toshiba M70 Centrino) and on research. The M70 centrino was 'slightly' faster again and the Pavillion overheated like a b it ch! But that could be down to design as i heard the Hp's do that.

And my main arguement about performance was based on the fact that we have done alot of research into this matter and found from several sources that the Turion is simply not as good!...

But i will give you one thing.. The Turion is definately better value for money, DEFINATELY.. You have 64 bit technology, negligible performance difference with jst a little extra heating and lesser battery life, depending on laptop model. I would have no problem getting a Turion myslef as the Pentium M's ARE VERY over priced as you said..
Sure i said from the start that the Turion is good BUT it IS NOT faster.

 

Comparing AMD processors to Intel processors on a benchmark like super pi is nonsense.
Core duo beats FX-60, and Pen D beats Athlon X2 in super pi.
If you've ever used these processors, it's not hard to find out these results are not true.
However I do agree that Pen m is superior to Turion ML series due to the amount of heat generated.

 

I was just using super pi as an example as liquidxit2 was saying how his super pi test showed how the Turion was faster than a pentiumM. There were many more benchmark tests carried out but mainly Mobile Mark and SiSoft Sandra 2005..

 

Im not using a ML turion, I have the MT40 2.2ghz. From what I have read the MT is better then the ML.

Agian I never said faster then a pentium M, read my post correct. I said it tested 1 sec faster then my 3.2ghz HT oc'd to 3.45ghz

 

u were trying to make out that the Turion was faster than the PentiumM..from the beginning. And yes the MT's are better than the ML's as they are set to low voltage and thus use less battery power and produce less heat.. But they still arent that good at keeping cool or using less power than a PentiumM.

 

My Sempron notebook boots faster than a Core Duo. I don't look at benchmarks, I look at real world performance. Being a CompSci student, going to a uni full of rich kids means I means I get to sample a lot of hardware.

I MY EXPERIENCE, I have found the Turion to be a better processor than the Pentium M. My best mate has a Compaq v2000 series, with the Turion ML-32 processor, and I must say that it has convinced me to wait for the Turion 64 X2.

 

You can boot a sempron system faster than a Quad core opteron...
Cpu speed is not the only thing that matters...

 

Ye and my 1.4 CeleronM boots faster believe it or not than my mates Dual Core Qusimo.. Booting is the last thing to go by to look at performance! Some antivirus/antispyware software along with other programs can cripple ur laptops booting and shut down speed!

 

Both on fresh installs of XP Pro. He wanted me to get rid of the Dell Bloatware and my laptop gets formatted on average every four days. I've generally found the Core Duos to be sluggish.