How likely is it that merom will work in core duo notebooks?

I was just reading how intel only plans on making the Yonah 1 step faster then the current 2.16GHz... which kind of bums me out because I was planning on getting a cheap 1.66GHz for now and then upgrade in a year or so.

But is it really woth it to spend $300+ for a whole extra 500MHz?

So thats why I was wondering if it's likely / possible for the merom to be used in current notebooks that use yonah processors. I wouldn't be bothered by the yonah's lack of support if I knew it could just be replaced with a better version.

 

The answer will be pure speculation. There are multiple reasons for it not to work:

1- Intel decides on a new chipset
2- Same chipset but not pin compatible (different socket)
3- Same chipset ans socket, but your manufacturer never releases a BIOS to support it

So I wouldn't bet on it working

 

actually qwester intel released a statement a few weeks ago stating that they are pin compatiable. They didnt say it would work though.

 

Merom is going to have an 800MHz FSB, Yonah only has 667. So even if you can replace a Yonah with a Merom, you'll be effectively clocking it down some.

 

What? Why couldn't it run at it's reglar 800MHz?

 

like qwester said this is all speculation.

but honestly don't buy a laptop with plans to upgrade the processor, upgrading is usually way to expensive to be justifiable unless you already have the CPU.

 

I'm hoping that Merom will be compatable with Yonah, but I'm not 100% sure. I'm guessing if Merom is pin-compatable with Yonah, the notebook you're getting has to have a future replacement that has Merom so you can get a BIOS update. I'm guessing Dell is going to have a future replacement of the E1705 with a similar design and a Merom CPU, so I might be able to upgrade if Intel makes Merom pin-compatable with Yonah.

 

The mobo side of it would only support up to 667MHz.

 

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I hate how dell does that. They are just like nintendo... as soon as something new comes out, they kick the old system to the curb.

Now im not sure if I should just wait for merom. Thats probably the smart thing to do... but Im not smart so... lmfao. That would really suck if the E1705 replacement is a lot better.

 

Well, the E1705 is based directly off of the I9300, so if Intel leaves their MOBOs/FSB speeds alone, we should be good to go

 

This makes an awful lot of sense, given past history.

It allows Intel to claim compatability, but still maintains an incentive to purchase newer Merom notebooks.

 

Absolutely. And then compatibility is also based on laptop manufacturers putting out BIOS updates to support Merom, which it seems like that wouldn't be their smartest move, since they'd make more money by selling a brand new laptop.

 

I don't think Intel would care too much - they still get their money when you buy the chip. It's the notebook makers like Dell who are going to take a bigger hit.

 

I put the odds that you could slap meron into a current laptop at 1%. Intel is famous in the industry for requiring customers and chipset venders to redo platforms on every new processor. They make much more money that way.

If you want longevity on your laptop, I would suggest waiting for AMD's am2 socket laptops. AMD has stated that this socket will be scalable from 1 core to 4 cores all on the same platform.

 

Do you always have to down Intel or something? Its getting old, and i for one am not happy with this.

You don't know if you can put Merom into a Core Duo notebook yet...as it states on INTEL'S website, it looks like you can. Although its not for sure yet, and your going to need to flash the BIOS in order for it to even work...

As for now, get the Core Duo

Thanks

 

The Merom and Core Duo are compatible (socket-wise) so the manufacturers have an easier time upgrading.

 

If you could upgrade the core Duo to Merom, this would be an extremely good thing!

I would actually be pretty pro Core Duo if that was possible, because effectively it would mean that a buyer of a core duo notebook today could upgrade their notebook to a 64bit Merom chip at the end of the year or in 2007. Albeit it would obviously not be for everyone, since you have to dismantle the laptop and pay the expense of a new processor, but for those willing to do it it would effectively provide the only upgrade path to 64bit computing on any Intel platform.

It would also be a very smart thing for Intel to try to do, but their history shows otherwise. Also, It seems Intel would have publically mentioned if it was compatible since it would only help core duo sales. But if it were possible, this could make the Core Duo a pretty sweet option for some tech savvy users!!!

 

It depends alot on the manufacturer if its a cheap crappy mobo you will have problems, if its built strictly to the specifications put out by intel you have a much better chance. In the end its up to your manufacturer to release a bios update. I also like the new turion chips but I got sick of waiting .

 

Is it confirmed that Merom will have a 800MHz FSB? I was just reading on a site that it will be 667MHz... although I have no idea if it is credible.