How to Unlock the Core 2 Extreme Multiplier in Windows

I see that this supports some i5/i7 processors...could this possibly support the core i3 330m processor too by chance?

 

ThrottleStop supports all Core i7/i5/i3 CPUs that I know of. The problem is that core voltage is not adjustable on these CPUs like it is on the Core 2 based CPUs. There is no software available that can do that as far as I know.

 

i hav a strange problem with my X9000 when using throttlestop. If i use prime95 torture test with stock clocks my temprature will go to a max of 75 and this is with it being left on for a while.

However the moment i unlock the multiplier and rase it form 14 to 15 the temps will sky rocket when i use prime95 all the way to the 90's and by the looks of it if i let it it would go even higher i dont understand why there is such a massive increase another thing is if i play eve online with stock clock my cpu will be around 40-50c however if i play it with a 15x multiplier again the temps go sky high again.

is there something that i am doing wrong or is it just that my cpu cant take it i dont think this is the case as i have seen others overclock x9000 cpu up to 17x so......

Thanks

 

Are you using ThrottleStop to lower your core voltage? That can make a big difference to your core temperature when loaded. What does CPU-Z / HWiNFO32 report for voltage while in the middle of a Prime95 run?

Raising the MHz does increase heat but if you are seeing a big change in heat, that's usually a sign that you have also changed the core voltage higher. Have you cleaned out your laptop lately? This trick works great but you have to keep the heat down for maximum performance.

 

i have tryed lowering the voltage to as low as i can and still get prime95 to run and the tempratures are still sky high also the laptop is completly clean as it has just come back from having the hinge replaced (yes its an alienware area 51 m15x) and they hav cleaned it all out so its not that from what i noticed lowing the voltage only made the increase in tempreature slows down a bit but it still gets far to high do you think its somthing wrong with my cpu

 

Awesome app.. really making me consider getting a laptop with 920xm.. but lets say i have 720qm... can i overclock or change multpliers or make force turbo mode at 1.8GHz on all cores...

 

Changing the multipliers is limited to the Extreme CPUs, Core 2 and Core i. This feature in ThrottleStop also works on the Core i K series desktop CPUs since they have adjustable multipliers and adjustable turbo power limits.

On the Alienware M17x, some users are able to adjust their turbo power limits on the Core i Dual Cores. This is a new feature so I'm still learning about it and on what systems it works.

highfly: If I had heat problems I'd probably remove the heatsink and re-do the paste or see what's going on. Check to make sure the heatsink is making good contact with the CPU. Some users replace thermal pads and end up with worse cooling because the heatsink isn't as tight.

 

Uncle Web what are some good stress testing programs to test CPU overclocks?

 

Prime95, OCCT, IntelBurn Test & Orthos - Mainly.

 

Another important thing to note is that not all these can run an unlimited number of threads.

I know Prime95 can run as many as needed (meaning good for Core 2 Quads, and any i3/i5/i7), and I also know that Orthos can only run two threads. That means Orthos is only okay for Core 2 Duos.

I'm not sure how threaded Intel Burn Test and OCCT are though, so hopefully somebody else knows.

 

its multi-threaded.... it burns ur CPU and that's why it's called burn test

 

This program is AWESOME! Just got my Q9100 that turned out to be an ES with a unlocked multiplier...have this bad boy running at 3ghz rock solid with just a multi increase...took like 5 seconds haha! Awesome...

 

well done

Now the $150 Q9100ES will outperform a $549 i7-920XM

 

A top of the line i7 is an expensive option in the Alienware M15x line up.



scook9 proved today that there's lots of life left in the Core 2 QX after a tweak or two.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/6442469-post3651.html

 

! I have never seen a QX9300 run at those clocks.. Hats off to that guy! and seriously awesome!

 

I know of someone (In Singapore) who has his QX upped to that speed as on his MSI model. I'm not surprised, but none the less. Thumbs up.

All hail Chief Unclewebb!

 

unclewebb, do you think it might be at all possible to unlock the multi with a non-extreme CPU?

How does intel lock them?

 

If I ever figured that out, I'd really be a hero.

I think at the factory Intel physically alters the CPU by cutting a link or something like that so once that's done, the multiplier is locked and there is nothing you can do with software.

 

Remember a few posts up I mentioned my dear buddy's QX reaching 4GHz? Well he got too ambitious...

just today he managed to crack the 1.5v barrier for notebooks, going over 1.6v, it requires the use of RMclock, and setting it to Desktop instead of Mobile under the Advanced drop down menu to unlock higher than 1.5v voltages. I observed the extra options given were from 1.5125v to 1.6125v.... I thought for a moment: "Wow he could reach 5GHz with those unlocked voltages"...

QX9300: 266x19 @ 5054Mhz with 1.5875v = EPIC FAIL.

Well if any of you heard of MTTF (Mean Time To Failure) formula, there's none a need to use that any more if you want to brick a $1000 QX OEM CPU within a week. He's crying now. I gave him a temporary hand and sacrificed my X9000 until he gets a replacement CPU within the week.

EDIT: He got a P8700 now - he's happy to have it.

 

Did he try the CPU in another notebook, just in case it's not dead?

 

epic fail but at least he tried

 

When you never try, you'll never win!

 

5 GHz quad core? Is that even necessary?

 

The mobile / desktop setting in RMClock does not change actual voltage, it only changes the formula used to report the voltage. Intel uses two different formulas depending on whether you are using a mobile CPU or a desktop CPU.

The register that contains the VID request information can hold a maximum value of 0x3F hex which is 63 decimal.

If you are using a mobile CPU, that information is interpreted with this formula:

Voltage = VID X 0.0125 + 0.7125
Voltage = (63) X 0.0125 + 0.7125
Voltage = 1.5000 volts

If the CPU you have is a desktop CPU and you set the VID request register to the same 0x3F hex then the motherboard is designed to give you this:

Voltage = VID X 0.0125 + 0.8250
Voltage = (63) X 0.0125 + 0.8250
Voltage = 1.6125 volts

Changing RMClock changes the interpretation of the VID register but doesn't change the actual voltage that your CPU ends up with.

 

Thanks Unclewebb, my thoughts exactly. When I saw 1.6v I knew RMclock couldn't be trustworthy for its accurate reading of its VID. There's never a known way to overvolt a mobile CPU or to gain access to higher than 1.5v voltages, I think what happened was just a fluke at 5GHz, it ran for a few seconds as much as I can see before we can even validate it in CPUz.

But the strange thing is, it ran normal at 4.2GHz @ 1.5v, upping the multiplier to x17 and it ran into an instant BSOD. But using RMclock's setting to Desktop type and 1.6v it ran well at 5GHz.... for a few seconds before it broke. I don't know what is the phenomenon behind this.

@ Moral, I tried on the HP's HDX 18, it ran into BSOD loops every time when it booted into the desktop. I guess his QX is fried.

 

ya i have a very similar dilema here.. whether to try or not..

Unclewebb did u ever work for intel?

tough luck... but now we at least know it doesn't work at 1.6V..

 

wait so itll post but just bsod when it loads desktop?

 

Not yet but if a few more people burn up their CPUs, Intel might want to hire me and get me to sign an NDA so I stop this madness.

An i7-920XM user is hoping that only his power adapter has expired after playing with the new ThrottleStop unlock TDP/TDC trick for Core i Extreme CPUs.

 

What kind of temperatures did it (the cpu) reach?

Hopefully it's a Dell and a new one can be brought over and installed the next day.

 

The i7-920XM was in a Clevo. A new adapter is on the way so hopefully it was just that and not the CPU or board. He was benching and had upped the TDP/TDC but I don't think any higher than 5150Joker was running his M17x at.

 

I hope it's just the power supply, but if not I would guess that it's the motherboard.

 

I thought I fried something when I tried to go for 4.0 GHz at 1.5v. My laptop shut off instantly, the power button wouldn't work and no battery light would come on. Guess my 120w psu wasn't up to the task haha. All I had to do was unplug my psu from the wall, plug back in and it was all good.

 

lol the word lucky comes to my mind but i can't wait for my G73.. and got a dilema whether to get a 920xm or not... anyways advantages of doing so now or would it be better to do so later on as i would use it for 3-4 years in aeronautical engineering.

 

I think you need to put a warning on this software Webb, to many people are going to crank up to 1.5v and blow up their processor. Just because it goes to 1.5v doesn't mean that's safe for the processor by any stretch.

 

If this should work on x7900 x7800, could it work for t7600G? the socket M unlocked multi, is there anything specific that the laptop mobo has to have (chipset?) or does throttlestop not even affect that

 

What should the warning say?

Warning: Don't be stupid.

My desktop motherboard has voltage settings way beyond 1.5 volts but nowhere are there any warning messages to use some common sense. No warning message in the world is going to prevent the type of user that likes to crank up the voltage and then goes for a 5000 MHz screen shot in one step. I'll add another line or two to the initial warning message but I don't think it will do any good.

If the T7600G is not an Intel Core based processor then ThrottleStop is not going to work. Send me a CPU-Z screen shot of this CPU so I can have a look. ThrottleStop should work fine on an X7800 or X7900.

 

T7600G is a 2.33GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor that was initially designed for the Dell XPS M1710 for a 3.0GHz overclock in the BIOS settings. It's essentially a T7600 with an unlocked multiplier similar like the Extreme series. It was never released for any other notebooks, but only for the M1710. It's a 65nm Merom chip and it runs a bit warm albeit like the Merom X7xxx series. My prediction that it should work, only if TS recognizes it as a CPU with an unlock multiplier. Or it could just the BIOS of the M1710 capable of reading it as an overclockable chip and allows it, and not any other chip.

Only way to find out is to try it using TS.

 

Thanks SomeFormOFhuman. As soon as I see a CPU-Z screen shot, I'll see if I can add support for this CPU. Even without that, there is an Extreme=1 option that you can add to the ThrottleStop.ini configuration file when you have an Extreme ES processor that isn't correctly recognized as having an unlocked multiplier. That might work too.

I just checked the bios for my Core 2 desktop motherboard. The voltage goes up to 1.700 volts.

 

i was just thinking today would throttlestop work on amd black edition cpus?

i ask because i have a friend whose mobo limits his 955 BE cpu to 800mhz per core for some reason (lowest multiplier it supports) getting it back up to at least the stock 3.2ghz or as close as possible would make em a happy person lol.

 

ThrottleStop is for Intel Core 2 and Core i based CPUs only. I don't have enough time or hardware to get this sorted out for AMD CPUs.

 

Throttlestop in an amazing tool! Works great for both of my Fujitsu's-one with an x9000 and the other with an x9100. Now if only someone made a tool that would give you access to memory timings, then we could unlock the XMP capability of our hobbled notebooks

 

So this is a desktop, he might be able to use a program called k10stat, which allows setting amd multipliers. Maybe even AMD's overclocking utility, overdrive

 

dang thats what i figured oh well il try what was mentioned but meh its not my computer that has issues

 

Well as long as you have something to cover your . I should have taken more time to read the warning message that's already up there >.<
Just tell people to reference their processor specs and not to be stupid

 

You can try thaiphoon burner, it will let you flash a new spd. Only works if your rams EEPROM isn't write protected.

Also memset works, but doesn't let you change the CAS.

 

moral hazard: Do you know anyone that needs a CPU like the one in your sig? CPU-Z calls these CPUs SP9400 but it is actually a QX9200 based on its specs. These ones on ebay are going for $268 with free shipping and are the equivalent to the QX9300 but with a default 9.0 multiplier instead of 9.5. We all know how to take care of that problem now.

INTEL CORE QUAD Q9200 2.40GHZ 12M 1066Mhz -best version - eBay (item 140425013319 end time Aug-06-10 22:00:06 PDT)

These ones for sale are the newer CPUID 0x1067A which is identical to the E0 stepping retail CPUs.

Mugenski: Including the maximum recommended voltage specs from the Intel docs might be a good idea.

 

Woooooooooow this thing rox!!!

lmao my ES x9000 is running @ 3.2ghz without problems!!

Thanks + rep!!

 

I wish my motherboard could support one of those..

By the way, did you see this thread:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...t-upgrades/497972-intel-extreme-q9100-es.html

He bought a Q9100 and it has an unlocked multi.

 

You could probably go higher if your temps are ok.

 

If this was with a w860 or w870, hopefully that guy gets the targus or li shin 180w adapter. The 120w that comes with them is a joke for the amount of power these things draw.