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    How well AMD Trinity A6-4400M, A10-4600M and Llano A8-3550MX APU perform in real world? Performance and Power Consumption Tests!

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Atom Ant, Sep 7, 2012.

  1. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

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    It's Hynix RAM is all. Not sure how or why it's running at that timing, but it is.
     
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    montcer9012 Newbie

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    Hi Atom; thanks for this complete thread.

    I am thinking to upgrade my A8 3510mx by an A10 4600m. The difference between those 2 APU are that A10 sockect is FS1r2 and A8 is FS1; i wonder if the A10 will work for me? I own an HP DV6 6b47dx.
     
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    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    Nope, will not working!
     
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    montcer9012 Newbie

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    Oh, bad news :( (Is a common topic? Now is when i am reading it on your signature).

    Anyway, thanks for the answer man. Cheers.

    EDIT: I was reading some post on your signature link, and now i am thinking to change the motherboard for one that support the CPU; the biggest problem is found one that fix the chassis. I still thinking on upgrade it because is hard to found US $ on my country and the only piece i need is the CPU.
     
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    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    I do not think the new motherboard will fit into the old body, all the screws connectors should be in the same place... Not sure which country are you in, but better if you try to order a new or used Trinity laptop from abroad, they cheap and will work for sure!
     
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    raclimja Notebook Consultant

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    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    He is writing really weird things, the worst is;

    " increasing the CPU voltage increases CPU performance, and increasing the NB VID increases video performance."

    Why would voltage increase cause performance increase?
    I'd say no, because the APU will reach earlier its 35W TDP limit, therefore rather cause performance loss (Turbo Core 3.0 won't work as often as with default voltage). Plus higher voltage cause higher temperatures which will be another bottleneck for Trinity Turbo cores. Not mention higher voltage and temperatures will kill the whole laptop!
    Locking CPU cores in turbo 2700MHz State again not a good idea, because you bottleneck GPU Turbo frequency; the two of them together cannot run in Turbo mod...
    Overclocking Trinity GPU cores will unlikely cause performance increase due to again the strict 35W TDP limit, maybe in less CPU demanding games.

    About Llano's overclocking; yes it is possible and TDP limit won't prevent those higher clocks, however GPU won't run higher frequency than 457MHz which involve less than 5% performance increase...

    [​IMG]


    So for overall I would not follow that guide, because the best what you can do for your Trinity is buy the fastest Memory modules!
     
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    danielschoon Notebook Deity

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    can anyone post some printscreens on detailed passmark scores form the A10 here, showing scores of each single cpu category. Im interested in exact difference between the A10 and my i5.

    Thanks!
     
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    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    I had a full Passmark 7.x run with A10-4600M and I believe I uploaded my baseline into their database. However with the new version 8.0, I cannot recover that baseline...
     
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    Thank for the reply. I can´t see seperate scores tho on the passmark site. I only get like the total score of the A10 but i am interested in the architectural difference between both and how they compare in each single test. I want to look a bit deeper into the i5/i3-A10 comparison. So that is basicly why i asked for a printscreen rather than just a score.
     
  11. zaanton

    zaanton Notebook Guru

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    @Atom Ant, As far as i understand first post in this thread fusiontweaker works on Windows 8 without any issues?
     
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    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    I understand, but if you going to download the baseline file with the Performance Test v.7 program; Compare results --> download additional baseline files , than you should able to see the detailed scores and all the CPU part results. I think I saved my baseline with name as "HP Pavilion G6-2123US A10-4600M" or so. Unfortunately I cannot check because the program complaining about my internet connection...

    Yes Fusiontweaker working perfectly with Windows 8, but do not forget that program is only for laptops based on Llano.
     
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    how can those A10´s score over 5000 points on passmark 7? My i5 scores only 4k?

    Do you have any passmark 8 results?
     
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    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    Maybe measures GPU accelerated CPU performance, but I have no idea what Passmark measures :).
    Unfortunately, I've sold my A10-4600M rig, so someone else need to do that test! Anyway if you interested I can give you A8-3550MX 2.4GHz Passmark 8.0 scores?
     
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    I have been comparing 3d mark results too and the i5 is the winner there as well. Funny to see that at passmark 7 the A10 wins

    CPU and GPU are seperated. The A10 indeed smashes my HD4000 (by 60%). But still the A10 was higher too at the CPU test. Interesting results. The i5 really gets smashed in the integer maths and finding prime numbers. Seems interesting since the i5 scores higher on all other scores. The A10 seems more of a raw calculator and the i5 seems to run other things better. Funny to see that.

    Comparing more results from passmark 7 to 8 it seems that intel chips are much better of in 8 than in 7 compared to AMD chips. In 8 is another single thread test added which works in intels advantage as well. Yeah i´d like to see your 8 results as well
     
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    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    Considering the fact; Llano has faster CPU but slower GPU than Trinity, I assume the 2,4GHz Llano about level or little faster as your Core i5 Ivy Bridge CPU and GPU. Therefore if Passmark 8.0 will show you similar scores as my results, than Passmark might not generating random numbers;

    [​IMG]
     
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    those are indeed the scores that im used to from AMD chips. THe A10 scores on 8 ~3000 points (on 7 5000). The i5 scores on both 4200. Thanks for the info +1
     
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    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    This program ridiculous if A10-4600M CPU scores as much as 2.4GHz Llano... The reason why I always say; only real world situation tests are matters...
     
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    Seeker9 Newbie

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    Sorry about bumping this Atom Ant, but what would you reccomend between the HP Envy dv6-7245us or HP Pavilion M6-1035dx ?

    Here is the link to both products on Amazon:

    Amazon.com: Hp Pavilion M6-1035dx Entertainment Laptop 15.6" 640gb 6gb Beats Audio Black: Electronics

    Amazon.com: HP Envy dv6-7245us 15.6-Inch Laptop (Black) Windows 8 / 3.2 GHz AMD Quad Core A10-4600M Processor / 640 GB Hard Drive / 6 GB DDR3 RAM / USB 3.0 / HDMI / Bluetooth / 802.11b/g/n WiFi: Computers & Accessories

    Going to be used for programming and occasional gaming
     
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    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    Both very good laptop, I would choose the thinner and cheaper Pavilion M6 ;).
     
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    The 3.2 Ghz vs the 2.3 Ghz doesnt make a big difference? And do you find the small arrow keys bothersome?
     
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    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    A10-4600M is A10-4600M, therefore there is no difference between two of them. 2.3GHz means the standard CPU clock, 3.2GHz means the max Turbo frequency.
     
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    Hey Atom Ant, sorry to be a nuisance, but the HPs arent readily available here :(. Ill try some more, but one other option is the Acer Aspire V3-551G (A8-4500M). Would you reccomend it? I dont like the design though :(.
     
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    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    The max turbo depends on many things, for example; loading situation, temperature, TDP. I would probably repaste the APU to decrease temperatures, maybe running too hot!
     
  26. tilleroftheearth

    tilleroftheearth Wisdom listens quietly...

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    It also depends on the BIOS - the manufacturer may even disable the Turbo altogether...

    See:
    Review Samsung Series 5 535U3C Notebook - NotebookCheck.net Reviews


     
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    Mine can reach only 84 degrees i don't know if that is high. What is the limit and the best temperature and OK temperature?
     
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