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    I can't get my SSD to work.

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Helpmyfriend, Jun 20, 2010.

  1. Helpmyfriend

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    Can I please have some help installing my Intel X25 SSD? Because from what i was told you cant. Infact you cant run any HD other than the default factory one unless you go and buy seperate copy of W7 OS.

    I popped it in and booted off disc but it keeps saying "please reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device"

    I had no idea what this was so I called asus (and what do you know i got another retard reading right off his books). He said that

    1) ASUS laptops no longer come with recovery OS disk. You either recover from the hidding partition on the default HD or order one from the estore.

    2) I told him the disk i put in is different and not the factory one. Then he goes on and lectures me about how thats why ASUS no longer supplies factory restore disks to avoid this.

    So he said that i can only do recovery off the hidden partition on the default disk. AM I SUPPOSE TO DO NOW?

    So now i have the SSD in there and i cant do squat! How am i able to install W7 on it?
     
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    Let me see if I understand this: So you replaced your original HD with the SSD and booted, and got the above message. So, what exactly did you expect to happen? Obviously, your new SSD is empty, you cannot boot from it.

    Two options:

    - You can put your original HD back in, use an imaging program to create a disk image (use Acronis, or one of many alternatives for this). Then you install your SSD, transfer the disk image to the SSD, and you're done.

    - You buy a Windows 7 install disk, and reinstall Windows from scratch. This latter is of course a lot more expensive.

    P.S.: By the way, the title of your thread is complete nonsense. There is nothing that would prevent you from putting an SSD into an ASUS laptop. Unbelievable, indeed.
     
  3. H.A.L. 9000

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    Or you could just download a Windows 7 ISO and burn it, and just use the license key you already paid for when you bought the notebook... On the sticker on the bottom. ISO's of Windows 7 are FREELY available and are 100% legal.
     
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    Oops, forgot about that one. +1 on that.
     
  5. Helpmyfriend

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    What im pissed about is ASUS not including a simple recover disk with the laptop because theyre not wnating people to mod their systems.

    1) So if i buy acronic (hopefully not too much), I can create an exact image of my default HD including the OS?
    2) i dont want to have to pay for windows 7 when it should have already came with the bloody laptop!!!

    where would i go to download w7 iso?
     
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    What's even stranger is my Asus 1201n did include a windows recovery disk, and it didn't even have an optical drive. Maybe you can call them and request one. They should be able to send it to you. Or just borrow someone's Windows 7 disk (as long as it is OEM and the same flavor of Win7), and then just use your key for activation.
     
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    I. Know. RIGHT. !! Ugh. I've bought 4 NET-books and all of them have included recovery Windows 7 disks, and absolutely none of them had an optical drive jr. And out of all the notebooks I currently use, only the Apple came with restore disks, and a VERY complete set at that.
     
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    Hey, why don't you do that, then. Most people would just try and understand what it is they need to be doing, and then do that. But whatever floats your boat...

    ASUS couldn't care less whether or not you "mod" your laptop. They may be interested in saving a couple of bucks, but most likely you did have the option to get a recovery disk of some sort at the time of purchase.
     
  11. Helpmyfriend

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    This is really pissing me off! I finally burned the iso but its not reading off the damn disk!!! grr
     
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    And have you tried to check whether the optical drive is the first in boot sequence?
     
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    most pieces of technology has a hidden 'critical need detector'. This can be hardware *or* software and operates to it's full potential depending on the emotional outbursts of the owner. The sole purpose of the critical need detector is to slow down or even totally shut down the piece of tech in question.

    I suggest sleep.
     
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    Isn't technology lovely? :p Try this if you're having trouble if you went the iso route. Microsoft Store: Windows 7 USB/DVD Download Tool Help
     
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    You know that little holographic Windows sticker somewhere on your computers case? That's your Windows license and you don't have to pay for it again. What you are missing is the OS installation disc, which ASUS has already told you they sell seperately (typically companies charge extra for these, and it's only usually like 10 bucks or so). You also have the option of downloading Windows from the Internet, or copying the data from your old hard drive to the new one.
     
  16. Helpmyfriend

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    Im using that now and when i go to select my ISO file it says its invalid. :mad: :mad:

    How the hell is this an invalid iso image? OMG Im about to lose it and refund the SSD tommorow morning and just stick with the default drive. AGAIN, why did I buy a PC again? None of this ever happens on a Mac.

    yes and i can hear the drive spinning up but nothing happens.

    "please reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device"

    I downloaded the file as a rar. I then upzip it and extract all the files inside to new folder that i created on my desktop. Does it matter if i extract or highlight all files and drag and drop into new one on desktop?

    I load up image burn and i select "select files to creat image" I then just select the folder i created right?
     
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    No, I think that it will burn the folder at the root of the disk with that option. If you say "select folder to create image" then it will burn the files inside of the folder at the root of the disk, like you want it.

    From my use of imgburn, I remember that being an option.
     
  18. Helpmyfriend

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    it wont just grab the entire folder i created, as it will only let me get the files inside and select them all.

    I just tried it again and its saving as RAR file! ! When i go to the icon on my desktop after it says rar and has the same icon as standard rar files. :mad: :mad: :mad:
     
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    For God's sake, borrow someone's Win7 disc--Sorry to contradict you Kosti, but the "type" of Win7 disc shouldn't matter; the files on Ultimate are the same as Home Premium--and just install using your own product key.

    There.
     
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    Okay, that's a good thing.
    Just save it in the .iso format. You can force it to do that, you know. Also, WinRAR associates itself with ISO files by default, so don't get freaked out if the icon comes up again.
     
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    1) I installed imgburn, selected all the files and created an iso from it. For some reason it doesnt want to give me that so it gives me a RAR file.

    2) I installed the MS W7 d/l tool. And just happened to try to select that file that Imgburn gave me and it accepted it. I followed the steps and burned it to dvd. Said its complete, pop it out.

    NOTHING, STILL THE SAME {} ERROR.

    IM DONE, THIS IS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS.
     
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    It sounds like it's operator error. Are you CERTAIN that the optical drive is set to be first in the boot sequence? You set that from the setup/BIOS screen when you first boot and it asks you to press F10 or Esc or something.

    The optical drive will spin up no matter what, if there's a disc in it. That doesn't mean it's going to try to boot from it.
     
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    Sorry but i dont understand this part (below in quotes). After i download and extract the files in the rar file. Am I suppose to run the setup.exe in it first? Because i have tried everything possible and this is really putting me over the top. I am this close to breaking something and it wont be pretty.

    How do I run that program on the iso? Is there a way for me to direct it?

    I dont understand why this is giving me so much trouble!!! Ive burned ISOs easily before so this is not completely new to me.

    yes 100% positive. I went into the bios and selected to boot off the DVD drive first. When I reboot i can hear the drive spinning up right away.
     
  25. Phil

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    Common practice nowadays.

    I'm glad HP didn't include them with my laptop because I don't like optical discs :) USB sticks install faster and are more reliable.

    Here's how I did it:
    1. download the legal Windows 7 iso
    2. insert USB key
    3. run MS USB Tool
    4. reboot from USB key (hold escape while booting)
    5. install Windows 7
     
  26. Helpmyfriend

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    Eh well im done, this is complete {} Im popping out the SSD and refunding it tommorow. Ill just stick with my mac for the ssd cause it doesnt give you all these useless headaches.

    Ive wasted about 7 dvds and 3hrs trying to figure this out. I really dont have the time for another migrane. The only thing i can think of is that my optical drive laser is faulty. But i dont even care anymore. whatever. screw asus ive lost all respect for them.
     
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    Why not try my method?

    It's just too easy.
     
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    Way to show ASUS.

    BTW, your specs on that ASUS machine in your sig are wrong :) it only ships with a G310m. Just lettin ya know :)
     
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    I liked Phil's suggestion and what costs about $10 for a stick? Helpmyfriend take a break get some rest and tomorrow or the next day with a fresh plan go at it. Trust me I think most of us have at times been where you are. I have, and walking away really does help. Not sure why but it does. Gets rid of stress and a new perspective.
     
  30. Phil

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    I agree, it would be good to give it some rest and try it later, with a fresh mind.

    It would a shame to return the Asus in my opinion, it delivers excellent value for money, that's the reason you bought it.
     
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    Sigh...

    I've read everything in the U30Jc topic. But as said, you are doing it WRONG :)

    First of all, you download an ISO file. And yes it is an ISO file. The stupid thing however is that WinRAR sees it as an archive. Therefore, it changes the icon into a RAR archive. That makes you think that it really is a RAR archive instead of an ISO. The extension however is .iso and not .rar .

    So step one is to not start WinRAR, you won't need that program. Just check wether the file extension of the ISO is a .iso. If that is correct you can proceed to the next step: burning.

    The biggest mistake you made with unzipping the ISO is to loose the part that makes it bootable. In Windows that isn't a problem because of all the software handling this. The BIOS however does not have such a function. It needs a small amount of details on the disk to boot from it. Without this bootsector, the DVD won't be booted and the setup won't be started at all.

    So to burn it, just get yourself a tool that can burn straight from the image. If you have Nero, you could use that. A free alternative is ImgBurn: The Official ImgBurn Website

    Just stick an empty DVD in your drive. Start ImgBurn and open the ISO file (wether it shows a rar archive or not). Then start burning. Thats all that is needed to get a working bootable Windows 7 DVD. Tou really need to select just one file. If you need multiple files or have multiple files, you are doing it wrong.

    I'll be ordering a U30Jc today and stick in a SSD when it arrives. Do a clean install and I know that it will work. It will also work for you if you just follow the steps I posted. It is the way computers work. Refunding the SSD won't work as well. Your DVD still won't work as it doesn't have anything to do with the SSD or HDD in the machine.

    Still computers are complex. The fault won't be the laser, it is just that human being between the display and chair. Computers do what they are said to do (so boot from bootable DVDs for example). The problem is that people don't always understand their computers, causing a mismatch in some sort of communication. The only thing to resolve this problem to understand what a computer needs. I hope my post will make you know that you destroyed the bootsector by unzipping the ISO file and therefore won't be booted. And the laptop isn't fault on that as it doesn't have a function to read a non bootable DVD at that stage.
     
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    Or if you're using a Win7 computer to download it, once the ISO is downloaded, fix it with that tool, and just right click on it and open with "Windows Disk Image Burner". It's built into the OS. Quite painless.
     
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    BTW, from the other thread:
    So first download a new ISO as this one is corrupted. Buring corrupted data won't work as well ofcourse. Make sure the ISO file that is downloaded is checked as valid ISO.
     
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    I'm not sure what are you talking about. I also can't believe you expected the new SSD to load magically your OS, or even you didn't notice the lack of the recovery disk. Also, this has nothing to do with modding the laptop...
     
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    This process is actually pretty easy and has nothing to do with Asus at all. You'd have to deal with this if you bought a computer from any PC manufacturer, most likely. Just because you can't download and burn an ISO file doesn't mean that it's Asus's fault.
     
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    I really don't want ASUS to ship with "dictionaries" to show me how to burn an ISO.
     
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    Nonsense. Your only problem is that you clearly have no idea what you're doing. Get somebody computer literate to help you with this.

    Wrong. You don't extract anything from the ISO file. You need to directly burn the ISO to a CD, otherwise you will not get a bootable CD.

    Nonsense. Your only problem is that you seem unable to follow the simple instructions you have been given, or that come with the tools and/or files you have already downloaded.
     
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    Please try to help the OP in a friendly manner guys. Not everyone knows how to burn an ISO.
     
  39. E30kid

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    Have fun paying Asus $10 then.

    There's this thing called Google which will help you out in this situation. You don't need a dictionary.

    He should know how to use Google though.
     
  40. Quatro

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    Sorry, Helpmyfriend, I have no idea what you are talking about here. There are no RAR files involved. Where are you finding RAR files?

    I think I've confused you with too many methods and the creation of the giant ISO file from Microsoft's 3 files isn't very straightforward. FORGET THIS METHOD.

    Don't DOWNLOAD ANY FILES TO EXTRACT. DON'T DOWNLOAD FILES TO REMOVE ANY FILES BEFORE BURNING. The ISO file I've linked you to is complete and ready. You don't need to add or remove anything. Just download it and get your image burning program to burn a disc image using that file ... then you're ready.

    Just go and download the huge ISO file directly. You can find Windows 7 x64 Home Premium ISO here. (The file is named X15-65733.ISO)

    Be sure & use a download manager to get the file as it is very big or at the minimum, use Firefox to download it.

    Then use an ISO burning program to burn that ISO image file AS A BOOTABLE DISC IMAGE to a DVD. You don't extract any files nor do you burn/copy the ISO file directly to a blank DVD nor do you create an ISO file from any other files or folders. Just use the one provided in the link. You instruct the ISO Burning program to use that image file to create a bootable DVD.
     
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    You don't want to CREATE an image file, but use an existing one (an ISO file). Use the ISO link I gave you above to download. That will save you a few steps. Then tell ImgBurn (or whoever) to burn that ISO image to disc.
     
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    You shouldn't be getting ImgBurn to select all files AND CREATE AN ISO. Download the ISO and get ImgBurn to burn that image to the DVD. ImgBurn should burn the image, NOT CREATE an ISO file. If you try to create the ISO image file, you'll lose the bootable information.

    That, I think, is what is happening to you. You have an SSD that's unpartitioned and unformatted so the laptop can't use it. It's an unbootable drive. And then you also have a DVD with Windows files on it, but no bootable information, so again, the laptop can't boot up on it, hence it gives you the error. Boot files are a few essential OS files placed in a special location on the HDD or DVD that the laptop's BIOS looks for on startup (a bit like a mini-OS). No boot info on the SSD or the DVD drive equals a "no bootable device" error.
     
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    It's been a while since I've seen someone give up this quickly on something so damned easy to do. Unless he wanted to fail from the git-go. Or was pretending to more knowledge of how things work than he actually has. Who knows.......

    fer Ghus sake, all he needed to do was to download a complete, legit, Win7 bootable ISO image (ISO, get it!!) to any machine, use just about any DVD burning program to burn the complete, unaltered ISO to a DVD disc, and then boot the new machine from the freshly burned DVD and install. Once the Win7 install was complete, he would have had to use his 'friends' legit Win7 license to properly activate the fresh installation.

    If he had downloaded the ISO to his Mac, he could have used something like VirtualBox to test the bootable ISO image before burning it to a DVD. Then he could have tested the freshly burned DVD. All before he had to touch hid friends laptop.

    Barring a hardware failure on the Asus laptop or the recently purchased SSD there are two possible points of failure here. Not downloading a complete, legit bootable ISO image and/or not being able to burn an ISO image to DVD media. Both failures are of the Picnic or ID 10-T variety.

    These are pretty much the same exact steps he'd need to go through if he needed to download and install OSx 10.6.4 for a fresh install to a new hard drive.
     
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    I got it to work late last night, thanks everyone for replying! Got W8 running perfect right now.

    DO Ineed to install the x25 drive for it to see the max performance?
     
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    Device-specific drivers are generally faster/smoother than the generic ones that ship with an OS. So yes, download and install the most recent Intel chipset and ICH (disk controller/IO controller) device drivers. For an Intel SSD the newer ICH drivers add some behind-the-scenes goodness like OS level trim support.

    Making sure that the firmware/BIOS on the laptop is up to date won't hurt either.

    Glad it's working now.
     
  46. Helpmyfriend

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    Would you mind posting me a link on the intel site for ICH drivers?

    Im downloading from here (3rd one on the list since i have 64B W7 home)

    http://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&keyword="ICH9"

    and it doesnt have a exe file to run it. :confused:
     
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    Intel is very good at packaging up their Windows drivers as unified packages. Beyond making sure that your OS is listed, you usually don't need to search out specific driver versions for specific hardware.

    As of today (21 June) here are some good links. Don't worry about the title 'desktop boards'. The Intel driver packages are the same for desktop chipsets, finished boards, and laptop components.

    current chipset driver:

    Chipset: Intel® Chipset Device Software for Intel® Desktop Boards

    current ICH driver:

    RAID: Intel® Rapid Storage Technology Driver for Intel Desktop Boards

    Others may pop in here with links for 'newer' drivers from third party sites. Don't bother with them, you have no way of knowing where those downloads actually come from. ONLY use drivers you download DIRECTLY from a manufacturers web site.

    On the HP forums here Justin keeps a set of up to date cross-reference tables that reference original direct-from-the-manufacturer driver downloads. A lot of people get their info and downloads from Justins posts for all kinds of hardware, not just HP-made laptops.
     
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    Thanks for the links bro, but im still not getting an exe file from those d/ls. :confused:
     
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    Try a different browser. The download links are right there "Download" to the right side of the file name. This link takes you to an accept the license web page. Scroll to the bottom to accept and then download from the next page.

    If you don't see that or the links don't work, your browser has problems on one side of the keyboard or the other.
     
  50. Helpmyfriend

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    K I got the chipset driver updated but cant get the 2nd link to have an exe file bro.
     
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