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    I need a new SSD for my laptop...

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by tuηay, Mar 17, 2011.

  1. DetlevCM

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    It's not that new - but it's 34nm NAND -> 25nm NAND has a reduced life cycle, with your heavy use that won't be too good.

    And speedwise they are still good :)
     
    DetlevCM, Mar 27, 2011
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    Okay :)
    Another question, how do I know if my laptop does support SATA 1 or 2 or 3 or whatever?

    I have PM45 Chipset..
     
    tuηay, Mar 27, 2011
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    With the speeds you got it needs to be Sata 2 minimun as Sata 1 is slower, with regards to Sata 3, specsheet.

    Edit:
    In theory the Intel 510 could also last a long time -> 34nm NAND.
     
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    I asume my laptop supports SATA 2 :p
     
    tuηay, Mar 27, 2011
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    IMO your system is not balanced. I would spend the money on more RAM before putting 300+ for an SSD.
     
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    -> If his SSD is on the way out then even the best RAM won't help.

    Edit:
    Besides, nothing wrong with 3GB -> yes, he can use more with a 64Bit OS, but depending on what he does there might be little gain from extra RAM.
     
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    I'm going to order 8GB RAM kit tomorrow, and the Intel, hopefully. I'm also looking for a CPU upgrade, but not sure at the moment. I'm also going to upgrade my WiFi card, to a 6300.

    but DetlevCM, what do you mean? Isin't that determinated by my laptop or Chipset? Or can all laptops take SATA 1, 2 and 3?
     
    tuηay, Mar 27, 2011
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    -> Have you decided which Intel?

    The older 160GB G2 has proven itself in the field (and based on that for personal use I would chose that)
    The newer 510 has the same lifetime specification and same NAND in theory, but it hasn't proven itself in the field yet (it couldn't).
     
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    Sata is backwards compliant, so you can mix and match them, but you only get the performance of the weakest part.
     
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    depends on budget. for this particular case I have a hunch that more RAM + a fast 7200rpm drive(which together is cheaper than the x25m) may yield better bang for the $.
     
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    Photoshop uses a temp file -> a SSD is better there ;)
     
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    No, would you suggest me to wait for the newer 510? I just wanted to buy that and finish this, and most likely I'll do that as well.
    At the weakest part? Can you tell me which of those my laptop will work with? 1, 2 or 3? I just want to know if it is wort for me to buy SATA 3 drive.

    I can buy the SSD and the RAM. I do need both, SSD for better batterylife, and lower system heat, which is quite important. RAM because I run out of RAM at any moment given.
    Correct :)
     
    tuηay, Mar 27, 2011
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    Well, your original SSD runs at more than Sata 1 speeds, so you have Sata 2 minimum.
    The Intel G2 is Sata 2, the 510 supports Sata 3.

    I think your laptop only support s Sata 2 BUT I'm not sure, I could very well be wrong.

    On the SSD:
    With your usage pattern tried and tested technology is possibly best.

    The 510 should have the same life span as the G2, but we don't know. Heck, they might use cheaper 34nm NAND... being Intel I don't think they do, but who knows.
     
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    It is not about which is better but bang for the $. With enough RAM, the temp file in photoshop would most likely than not being used in a more 'sequential' fashion which significantly reduce the bang for the $. x25m for example is only on par with fast 7200rpm HDD on sequential write and about 2x for sequential read.
     
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    -> Well, Photoshop will generally start with maybe 3GB on the temp file... if you have a lot of layers you will possibly need at least 8GB of RAM -> that's expensive...

    If you do large panoramas, I once got Photoshop up to a 40GB Temp file...
     
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    I see. I had a 30GB OCZ SSD on this laptop before, but it died. I did have good results, so as you I assume it supports SATA2, but it is few years old, so I do not think it does SATA3 :)

    Thanks for your inputs, I'm going to order Intel drive, tomorrow, G2.

    REP added.
     
    tuηay, Mar 27, 2011
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    I'm in both cases going for 8GB RAM, the reason is simple. I have GPU with TurboCache, say it is useless, but it steals a hole bunch of my RAM, and I run out. So, say GPU takes 2GB, then I'll have 6 left for games etc. which I think is today OK nothing more, nothing less.
     
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    Ouch...

    You are chewing through SSDs. Well, as long as you haven't used up Intel's nearly guaranteed 35,6TB of writes you can always run to them and complain :D I also think the warranty is 3 years on them.
     
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    :D

    But, can't I send my 30 and 120GB SSD also back to OCZ? They are not that old. Maybe 1 year? I actually think I bought them last summer, at same time, so 120GB has done better then 30GB.
     
    tuηay, Mar 27, 2011
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    You can try -> maybe try getting a refund, and if they will only replace them, have them replaced and sell them?
     
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    SSD drives for me does not hurt. But as I said in my other therad, I'll buy the Intel first, so I have something to use when I have to send mines to OCZ.
     
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