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    IC Diamond 24 Giveaway/ Reliability Survey

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by IC Diamond, Jun 8, 2011.

  1. polish_pat

    polish_pat Notebook Consultant

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    Alright guys, just repasted my G73...ouff!! this was far less stressful and complicated than i thought it would be. I can say right now, i see little or no difference on the CPU side, still idles at around 49-51, but on the GPU side, i see a HUGE difference...i used to idle at around 60, now i'm at 50.

    I can't wait to see the stress test results, i will do that tomorrow and post all my data

    edit: here are my results
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    as you can see, minimal changes in cpu temps, but considerably better temps on gpu
     
  2. wispofdoom

    wispofdoom Notebook Geek

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    How long has it taken for you guys to get your sample (continental US)? I posted on the 4th and nothing yet.
     
  3. polish_pat

    polish_pat Notebook Consultant

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    3 weeks (canada) but our post service was on strike for a week or two...but i've been out on vacation and didnt have time to repaste until yesturday
     
  4. polish_pat

    polish_pat Notebook Consultant

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    is this thread dead or is anybody still checking the results?
     
  5. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    Dont know. D;
    Il still upload my results every 3 months anyways.
     
  6. Kuu

    Kuu That Quiet Person

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    We're all cool and quiet with the temps so no point in posting :D

    I haven't noticed a change in temps though over the past weeks, so its doing its job :p
     
  7. IC Diamond

    IC Diamond Company Representative

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    Just back from vacation & currently battening down for a little tropical squall this weekend

    Lost my home PC due to lightening strike(s) So a couple days reconfiguring all and should be back to work on the info you guys are generating.

    Should have some more contact images in the next week or so Plus we are still looking for volunteers/guinea pigs for CP testing and for regular longevity testing
     
  8. kizh

    kizh Notebook Consultant

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    Did you spread the paste, or put a pea sized line down the die and clamp down? I did both, and the clamp method wins hands down. Also, OP says there's no penalty for using too much, it will just squeeze it out. So make sure you use enough to have it spread across the whole die.
     
  9. fatlardo

    fatlardo Notebook Consultant

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    Wow, my comp is an asus g51 with p7350 2ghz. My idle temps were from 52-56 on stock and overclock 2.59ghz. Load temps on orthos was max of 80 degrees overclocked to 2.59ghz.

    Now with an upgraded cpu that is a lot hotter E8435!!! Idle temps are 42-46!! I freaken was too scared to even take on this cpu. But daaaayyummmm!!! Load temps is 77 degrees!!! I will do another repaste as that was my first time. I think I can paste it even better. So far I am a happy camper!! Can't wait to check long term.

    Was there suppose to be a cure time? I pasted and only waited 10 minutes after and did tests.
     
  10. tijo

    tijo Sacred Blame

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    There is virtually no cure time for ICD.
     
  11. fatlardo

    fatlardo Notebook Consultant

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    So I wanna try another repaste, is lesser really better?
     
  12. IrateMike

    IrateMike Notebook Geek

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    12 Sep 2011.

    Specs in my signature. GPU is undervolted to 1v.


    Shin-etsu
    Ambient temperature 17.1-17.8 degrees celsius
    All temperatures are maximum temperatures
    Idle 3dMark11 Crysis 10 Minutes
    CPU
    CORE0 44.0 65.0 65.0
    CORE1 43.0 63.0 63.0
    CORE2 43.0 67.0 67.0
    CORE3 44.0 64.0 66.0

    GPU
    THERMAL DIODE 41.0 60.0 67.0
    DISPIO 41.5 60.5 67.0
    MEMIO 40.5 64.5 73.0
    SHADER 42.0 66.5 75.0

    IC Diamond
    Ambient temperature 17.0-17.4 degrees celsius
    All temperatures are maximum temperatures
    Idle 3dMark11 Crysis 10 Minutes
    CPU
    CORE0 39.0 61.0 58.0
    CORE1 36.0 58.0 57.0
    CORE2 41.0 63.0 64.0
    CORE3 41.0 61.0 61.0

    GPU
    THERMAL DIODE 40.0 59.0 64.0
    DISPIO 40.0 60.0 64.0
    MEMIO 38.5 62.0 68.0
    SHADER 39.5 60.5 66.5


    Very impressed with results.
     
  13. clone63

    clone63 Notebook Consultant

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    IN THIS THREAD "ON MY HONOR IN EXCHANGE FOR FREE COMPOUND I DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR TO TEST AND POST MY RESULTS and to AND TO UPDATE THOSE RESULTS EVERY 3 MONTHS"

    Will be going up against AS5 with a copper shim between the heatsink!

    Haha any left?
     
  14. tijo

    tijo Sacred Blame

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    12 sept 2011, All hardware on stock clocks as usual
    5 min furmark run on GPU and 1024 wPrime bench on CPU

    Ambient: 25C

    CPU
    core 0: 76C
    core 1: 75C
    core 2: 74C
    core 3: 77C

    GPU
    TS0: 83C
    TS1: 84C
    TS2: 83C
     
  15. Kuu

    Kuu That Quiet Person

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    [​IMG]

    Still only 27c Ambient though, 20 minute runs on Intel Burn Test and Furmark.
     
  16. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

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    Since I've gone through a few laptops since I got my IC Diamond, I think I've finally settled down with one that I'll keep for a while so will post on it now.

    HP DV6z A8-3510MX (undervolted with K10Stat 800MHz @ 0.7125V / Max Speed 2.2GHz @ 1.0500V)

    Ambient room temp ~ 24C

    Idle:
    [​IMG]

    Load (Prime95 + Kombustor) for 20 minutes:
    [​IMG]
     
  17. ellalan

    ellalan Notebook Deity

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    These are my Temps after 3 months, second picture after running Orthos for 45mins.
     

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  18. Nemix77

    Nemix77 Notebook Deity

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    ON MY HONOR IN EXCHANGE FOR FREE COMPOUND I DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR TO TEST AND POST MY RESULTS and to AND TO UPDATE THOSE RESULTS EVERY 3 MONTHS
     
  19. Raidriar

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    kizh Notebook Consultant

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    3 month update:

    new temps 84c @ 67F ambient

    that is an increase of 5c including when the old ambient temp was 85F
     
  21. tijo

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    Update for October which marks the first 3 months period in my case. 10 min furmark run for the GPU, wPrime 1024 Bench 8 thread for the CPU. Check the max temp column for the results of both tests.
     

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  22. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    Okay here is the results of my new temp. readings.

    Tools used:
    HWiNFO64 v3.89b
    Prime95 v26.6
    MSI Kombustor v2.2.0b

    Still pretty cool if you ask me. :D

    First temperature reading, stock paste.
    100% CPU & GPU Fan speed!


    Second temperature reading, IC Diamond repaste.
    100% CPU & GPU Fan speed!

    Temperature reading three months later.
    100% CPU & GPU Fan speed!

    IC Diamond CPU & GPU idle temps.
    [​IMG]

    IC Diamond Prime95 stress test on all 8 cores.
    [​IMG]

    IC Diamond MSI Kombustor Xtreme Burn-in on HD 6970m.
    [​IMG]
     
  23. kizh

    kizh Notebook Consultant

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    I think somewhere in this 100 page thread he said its better to use a little too much than not enough.

    I'm not reading it all again to find it though :p


    I have a feeling I used too little because my temps shot up a bit.
     
  24. ellalan

    ellalan Notebook Deity

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    It's not about using too much, you have to apply as much as to cover the whole cpu, I always follow trial and error method to find the correct amount.
     
  25. kizh

    kizh Notebook Consultant

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    I agree, mostly. I was just comparing too much to too little.

    I don't mind if a little squeezes out the side, its not going to short the motherboard and I don't want to paste/clean 3 times until it looks right.
     
  26. Nemix77

    Nemix77 Notebook Deity

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    I never got my sample, I think they're all out and I joined the party a bit too late. :(
     
  27. ellalan

    ellalan Notebook Deity

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    Yes, you are right, it doesn't matter if it overflows a little bit, use a bit more than the normal much spoken "size of a grain of rice".
     
  28. ellalan

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    My latest temps and please note I have switched my cpu to T7200, I'll continue to post the temps.
    Second Pics shows the temps after using Orthos for 20mins.
     

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  29. Torment78

    Torment78 Notebook Evangelist

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    HI im prob very late with this but what i can say is the temps are identicall to the ones i posted after the paste
    ohh yehh Merry X-mas to you all
     
  30. too456

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    Hi, also very late (sorry - didn't remember until I saw this thread resurface). Temps are identical to the first take.
     
  31. TANWare

    TANWare Just This Side of Senile, I think. Super Moderator

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    Posting late here too, but my Q9200 can still run 3.2 GHz. Prime 95 is still stable on all cores at 2.9 GHz but as usual runs the borderline of temps at that speed. Primarily I run 2.66 GHz at 80c or under with Prime95 loaded up. Normal running is at well under 50c on all cores. Very happy with ICD so far.

    I should also note GPU here as day one was highest at 82c with Furmark and this is still the same. ICD applied to the GPU and video memory chips.......
     
  32. tijo

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    Ok, well time for me to give an update. These temps were taken at the beginning of the month.

    Ambient: 25

    CPU:
    core 0: 74
    core 1: 75
    core 2: 76
    core 3: 74

    GPU:
    TS0: 60
    TS1: 61
    TS2: 60
     
  33. Kuu

    Kuu That Quiet Person

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    tijo's post reminded me I should have did this a while ago.

    I've had a bit of change as far as the system goes; I have a SSD in place of the HDD and the Ambient temperature was actually 25c here, so these are a bit of a drop from my last test.

    [​IMG]
     
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  35. tilleroftheearth

    tilleroftheearth Wisdom listens quietly...

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    These short posts are pretty useless. They need to be complete onto themselves.

    Where are the original comparison tests to see if the temp is unchanged, better or worse?

    :(
     
  36. tijo

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    All the original temps can be found in the thread and if you'd like i could provide you with the .xls i keep with the temps for every month. Not much of a change so far, cleaned the heatsinks regularly too.

    EDIT: screenshot of the excel folder, i don't trust some of my GPU data much though.
     

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  37. hydra

    hydra Breaks Laptops

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    hydra Breaks Laptops

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    TANWare Just This Side of Senile, I think. Super Moderator

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    Here is the problems with their test.

    1.) Large surface area for the compound.
    2.) low overall heat build up.
    3.) No longevity study.

    With laptops the TIM must be able to withstand high temps in a small contact area. We have all seen where those silver and ceramic will either crack over time or boil out..........................
     
  41. ramgen

    ramgen -- Morgan Stanley --

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    I will update my tests over the weekend however my informal observation on my laptop is that ICD hasn't degraded over time so far. The fan is still running pretty silent and the idle temps are around low 50 C.


    --
     
  42. tijo

    tijo Sacred Blame

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    You're welcome, with all those compound they tested, it's kinda hard not to miss one. I like how there's a difference of 1C between ICD7 and ICD24, shows there is some error margin...

    Not saying their test is perfect, just saying they already tested ICD according to their method.
     
  43. TANWare

    TANWare Just This Side of Senile, I think. Super Moderator

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    And their method stinks. Intial short term data etc. Just too many short falls to list................
     
  44. HTWingNut

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    I think its a moot point to continue to post my results. I've disassembled and reassembled my machine at least a dozen times, and reapplied new thermal paste each time, in an experiment to improve cooling, which I did. However I did end up buying a new tube of ICD.
     
  45. TANWare

    TANWare Just This Side of Senile, I think. Super Moderator

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    been there, done that. I have had to though as this was never meant to handle even the q9000 that was offered on some models. Now I know why the P78 and P79 were not a great seller with the CQD's. Not too mention the CQD's have little advantage over the C2D's and in alot of real world use disadvantages..................
     
  46. hydra

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    That's the problem, everone has one. If you look at all the posts, here, including your's, they are all over the map.

    Their tests flawed or not is at least a step in the right direction. You might ask that they do long term test?

    My FX has the same temps as when I did the T9300 swap two years ago with one of those so called silver compounds. I'm contemplating future swap so just testing the waters..
     
  47. TANWare

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    Mine with silver paste eventually started getting warmer. I had found the paste was boiling out. This though was putting in a bit hotter than a T9300.

    In essence with a lower end CPU almost any decent paste is fine. It is when you start pushing the envelope that you have to have the best. IMHO even though the best may not be called for the reasoning is why not?

    I have two unopened tubes of 24 and one barely used tube. More than I'll probably use in quite some time.....................
     
  48. hydra

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    OK, makes sense. My T-9300 is not an overclokers dream but I did recently torture it and my factory TIM i5 to see what has changed over the years.

    It's a shame, free or not, that the results you normally read about on forums are just nothing more than results seen after a reboot. Anyone that posts a 10C degree difference is suspect other than bad factory TIM..and so on.

    Other than a few trusted sources, like you, I would think it hard for any site to finance dedicated long term tests so there will still be issues, no?

    Cheers
     
  49. tijo

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    Well, so far i haven't seen any noticeable increase in 6 months time and i've been pushing my 920xm pretty hard outside of the data i gather for IC. First test i did was on stock clocks, so i still test on stock clocks, but outside of those tests, there are times where i've really been pushing the envelope with the xm. I still have to run tests this month though so i'll see if anything has changed in 7 months.
     
  50. ribtits

    ribtits Notebook Guru

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    This is an update to my temperatures. It should be noted that 3 out of my 8 copper heatsinks that I attached to my gpu fell off. However my temps are still great.

    My original temps are in post 200 (page 20)

    [​IMG]
     
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