Intel 'Cannon Lake' CPUs Thread

Intel delays its 10-nanometer 'Cannon Lake' CPUs yet again
It's still having trouble getting yields where it wants them.

Intel has announced that, once again, mass production of its 10-nanometer "Cannon Lake" chips will be delayed. The company is already building the chips in low volumes (though no one knows what it's doing with them), but said it "now expects 10-nanometer volume production to shift to 2019 [rather than the end of 2018]." It announced the move in its first quarter earnings report, which saw it collect a record $16.1 billion in revenue and $4.5 billion in profit, a 50 percent jump over last year.
Cannon Lake CPUs, which use Intel's new 10-nanometer process, were originally supposed to arrive in 2016. Since then, rival TSMC has released 10-nanometer chips and Samsung is pumping out its second generation of 10-nanometer CPUs. Samsung has actually qualified 8-nanometer chips, and by the time Cannon Lake arrives, they might be in production.
Intel has said that its own 10-nanometer tech will be superior to that of Samsung and TSMC, as it will have more features per square inch. However, it's getting so far behind that even if that's accurate (and some industry watchers don't think so), it might be moot by the time the chips arrive.
Judging by the numbers this quarter, Cannon Lake delays haven't affected Intel's bottom line, but most of its revenue still comes from its PC-centric business unit. With impressive reviews for Ryzen 2 chips, however, AMD might start to cut into Intel's PC sales more over the next year. Given that, and recent problems with the Spectre and Meltdown chip flaws, it seems like Intel can't suffer any more Cannon Lake delays.

 

Intel's 10nm Cannon Lake CPUs won't arrive in mass quantities until 2019
Another delay for mass production, but that might not be a bad thing.

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The closer we get to Cannon Lake, Intel's next major processor update that die shrinks production to 10 nanometers, the further it seems to slip away. Unfortunately, that is the case once again—Intel announced today that it won't be shipping 10nm processors in high volume this year, and instead is now targeting 2019.

Intel revealed the updated time frame while discussing its first quarter earnings, in which the company collected a record $16.1 billion in revenue, a healthy 13 percent year-over-year jump, along with a 50 percent increase in profit to $4.5 billion.

"Coming off a record 2017, 2018 is off to a strong start. Our PC business continued to execute well and our datacentric businesses grew 25 percent, accounting for nearly half of first-quarter revenue," said Brian Krzanich (PDF), Intel CEO. "The strength of Intel’s business underscores my confidence in our strategy and the unrelenting demand for compute performance fueled by the growth of data."

Intel is on solid footing, in other words, though pesky challenges remain in manufacturing its next-generation 10nm parts. Krzanich acknowledged as much during an earnings call, attributing the delay to difficulties in getting 10nm yields to where they need to be. So rather than push to ship 10nm in volume this year, Intel is giving itself some additional time to sort things out.

Pat Moorhead, principal analyst at Moore Insights, told PCWorld that he was happy with Intel's decision.

"I was glad to see Intel reset 10nm shipment expectations to volumes in 2019 and believe in the future Intel will try to decouple transistors and nodes from shipping products and really lean into advanced packages," Moorhead said.

It should also be noted that Intel is actually shipping 10nm products right now, but in low volume. The significance there is that Intel is able to manufacture 10nm processors, but has more work to do before it can ship Cannon Lake and other 10nm CPUs in volume. In the meantime, Intel plans to continue optimizing its 14nm product lines.

 

Thats because the 10nm nodes are weak.... So weak even the electron collision itself can damage the silicon wafers........ TSMC knows this, and is smart enough not to waste resources on it.... Thats why they went directly to 7nm from 12nm.....

-(for info, TSMC is the company that bakes the silicon for AMD and other companies)-

But intel just cant drop it since they've spent 400millions $ allready. So.... They neither can drop it or can succesfully beat it.... Since TSMC is already testing 7nm CPU wafers...



Read https://www.tweaktown.com/news/61705/amd-7nm-server-cpu-year-intel-delays-10nm-again/index.html

 

Intel

1st gen. 14nm Broadwell
2nd gen. 14nm Skylake
3rd gen. 14nm+ Kabylake
4th gen. 14nm++ Coffeelake

and now please welcome the _unexpected_ 5th gen. 14nm+++ *Whiskeylake* !!


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Intel 10nm Cannon Lake's First Product, Z390 Official Details!

 

Intel blames a very high transistor density and consequent heavy use of multipatterning for low yields causing the issue in 10 nm wafers that's the reason TSMC gone for 7 nm.


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Intel - Going Nowhere, Fast.
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Published on May 24, 2018
Analyzing Intel's apparent capitulation.

 

The Intel 10nm Cannon Lake Core i3-8121U likewise has incapacitated illustrations part and that is the reason Lenovo workstations that element this chip accompanies discrete designs, typically from AMD. This is some fascinating data with respect to Intel 10nm cannonlake cpu and I for one am occupied with looking at what Intel is really going after and what we will get one year from now. AMD Ryzen has been assuming control over the CPU market and it is time that Intel brings its A diversion. After what has occurred at Computex 2018, I don't think there is any more space for wasting time.

 

So now, is the i9 9900K is a Canon Lack or a second generation of the coffee lack?

Intel Core i9-9900K: 9th generation Core CPU pricing, specs, and everything we know
https://www.pcgamer.com/i9-9900k-intel-9th-generation-core-cpu-pricing-specs-and-everything-we-know/

 

The 8 core die is referred to as Coffee Lake-R (probably for "Refresh") as opposed to the 6 core Coffee Lake-S die that was the "8th gen" 8700K/8086K etc

https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/microarchitectures/coffee_lake#Codenames

We'll find out soon if there are any optimisations re voltage/frequency/IMC/IPC - my guess is a teeny bit - but basically it's all about two more cores

 

It's right in that article, here's a partial quote - and there's more in the article:

"So what is it? Intel's 9th generation Core lineup is essentially yet another optimization in the company's 'process, architecture, optimization' cadence that took the place of its previous 'tick-tock' schedule. Applied retroactively, Broadwell at 14nm was the 'process', Skylake was the 'architecture', Kaby Lake (14nm+) was the 'optimization', then came the current 8th generation Coffee Lake (14nm++) lineup as the second optimization. Looking ahead, the upcoming 9th generation parts will be a refresh of Coffee Lake, built on a second refinement of Coffee Lake's 14nm++ node."

More discussion here:

Intel Core i9-9900k 8c/16t, i7-9700K 8c/8t, i7-9600k 6c/6t 2nd Gen Coffee Lake CPU's + Z390
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...k-6c-6t-2nd-gen-coffee-lake-cpus-z390.811225/