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    Intel 32nm In Production!

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by tizzao, Sep 14, 2009.

  1. tizzao

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    i canceled my plan to get a i5 after hearing this news.. but it looks like the quads will come starting next year actually.

    still, can't wait for my completely silent passive cooled ssd quadcore in a drawer :) (7cm high it is, integrated in the table.. it will be my new audio production environment :))
     
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    What do you mean i5? The dual core Arrandale?
     
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    the actual i5 that is out is a quadcore with no hyperthreading. lynnfield.

     
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    Ahh I see. It's too early to decide, but currently there are NO plans for 32nm quad cores. I think fact that a lower clocked quad without SMT being too close in performance to a higher clocked dual with SMT might be one of the decisions regarding that.

    The maximum gains of Hyperthreading enabled will be less on Arrandale/Clarkdale due to less bandwidth but average real world gains will be better than on quad cores due to the fact that 2 cores/2 threads per core equals 4 threads which majority of the applications use(while 2 threads per core on a already 4 core processor is overkill).

    To OP: Production just started means release by late end of the year. Early launch will be no less than December I think.
     
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    Actually Arrandale is both Core i5 and Core i7. And Clarksfield might get shrunk to 32nm later in 2010. On the 22nd-24th is IDF, and Intel will be talking more about Westmere.
     
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    so no 32nm quadcore in the next half year? might get my i5 then anyways... till the 32nm version comes out :)
     
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    I know that. But some people don't know i5 isn't necessarily a dual core.

    On the 32nm shrink, there's no equivalent 4 core shrink on the desktop at least on current roadmaps. There might be a 4 core 32nm on laptop, but I'm more on the "Not" side because doing that on one product segment only is a waste of another die. They can always surprise us. :)
     
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    yeah.. a 32nm quadcore would be awesome. we all could have passive cooled, silent high performance pc's...

    just like my home server with the passive core2duo :) but with a quad :)

    it will sure come, but maybe only as xeon, and not for cheap..

    then again.. 2 such quadcores on a dual-cpu xeon mainboard? passive cooled..

    :)

    i like dreaming..... :)
     
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    Haha.

    I think we might only see them with Sandy Bridge, which will make quad cores mainstream.

    OT, I'm thinking Sandy will have more relevant performance improvements to general users than Haswell will.
     
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    i'd like to see ULV processors more available.. :) they created one time a 5W core2duo, but afaik it never get to the shops. a xeon version, 8 of those in a mainboard resulting in a 16 core system with still 40W power draw, that would be fun :)

    but it looks like i might get that i5 available non the less.. :) soon my whole home will be 100% passive cooled, and, except for the homeserver, 100% ssd. that means full silence finally. highest end computing at home, but nothing of it visible or audible.
     
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    I like how your vision of server "racks" will be literally in a rack. :)
     
  13. tianxia

    tianxia kitty!!!

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    why don't you try a massive heatsink with a huge fan, should be quite enough.
     
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    i look forward to my upgrade from a 65nm c2d+80nm geforce, to a 32nm i3 and 40nm radeon :)
     
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    because it's not silent, and i like silence, and because it requires big space with space for airflow, which means open holes and filters that catch dirt and all.

    a fully passive, fully silent system is something that amazing, that, once you experienced one, you don't want to step back. you know, a silent system, you don't even notice if you have turned it on... :)


    and i don't have that much space for a huge cooling system for the music production pc if i want to fit it where i want to.. :)

    check my home server pics for some impressions on how a silent system is great for me, and great for my girlfriend. she doesn't like visible, audible computers standing around. that's why i try to make them all invisible, inaudible.
     
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    if that's you thing, you have to look for a system that consumes less than 40w for it to not burn itself. an entire system, not just the cpu.
     
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    actually, my home server f.e. works very well, all silent except for the not liked hdds :)
     
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    No, what comes after that makes quad core mainstream. The shrink of Sandy Bridge to 22nm (Ivy Bridge) is when this happens. BTW, Sandy Bridge could be out in the fall of 2010, if not pushed back.
     
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    you always keep on waiting and waiting. you'll not be able to purchase a "permanent" notebook with that attitude :rolleyes:
     
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    I've set my sights on 32nm CPU and 40NM GPU. That's what I plan to buy. I've been 9 months without. I can wait a little longer.

    Hopefully it'll be a low voltage intel CPU with a mid/mid-high range ati gpu. I hope to get 5-8 hours of battery out of that with switchable graphics all packed into a nice small frame.
     
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    Me? If you didn't notice I had to give in (due to school) and now have an Acer 3810T. I might sell it for an 1810 once that gets Westmere (since I had been waiting on Nehalem for years), otherwise my next upgrade is in 2012 when Haswell drops.
     
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    Is it just me or does it seems the 25W class will be replaced with 35W?
     
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    For Arrandale:

    Core i7 620UM/640UM have 8W cpu and 10W gpu making 18W TDP

    Core i7 620LM/640LM have a 17W cpu and 8W gpu making 25W TDP

    Core i7 620M have a 25W cpu and 10W gpu making 35W TDP.

    Core i5 520M/540M have a 25W cpu and 10W gpu making 35W TDP.
     
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    You might want to change the LV GPU TDP to 8W. :) It's 17W CPU and 8W GPU for total of 25W.

    Do you know the leaked Sandy Bridge die shot? It has a GPU on die. That qualifies for "mostly" mainstream. :)

    Intel can release Sandy Bridge at July 2010 if they wanted to but that won't happen realistically. The manufacturers of motherboards and retail PCs will complain they need to clear inventory. This is a late December, early January product.