Intel 6235 Card

Hey folks
Got a question to see if I did mess up my NIC install.
Received the Intel 6235 Card last Thursday
Downloaded the drivers and software from intel had it on the machine waiting encase I needed to install it
Removed the bottom of the machine to access the Atheros NIC
While removing the Atheros card I noticed the wires were on opposite sides of the Atheros than the Intel card
"Main" and "Aux"
After the replacement, I got the bottom back on with a few screws for securing it
inserted the battery fired it up, installed the drivers and software from intel checked the device manager and everything was there, bluetooth the whole nine yards, accessed the internet with no problems.
Power it down removed the battery and finished with the screws etc.

Now my internet is working great, but the bluetooth is not working period, so even though I placed the leads back exactly on connection point main to main, aux to aux. Could one of them came off and allowing the net to work and not the bluetooth or where the white lead and black lead are opposite to match the main to main, aux to aux could that cause a problem?
If you are looking at the machine from the hard drive side, the Atheros card had the white lead closest to the hard drive, now the black lead is the closest to the hard drive.

 

Howdy newbie. Welcome to the forums :hi2:.

No. If the WiFi part of your card is working correctly, then the Bluetooth should as well. WiFi connectivity requires two antennae, Bluetooth only needs one. Is the Bluetooth adapter showing up in device manager (under bluetooth radios)?

 

Hey radji thanks for the welcome and yes I am an extreme newbie with replacing laptop parts other than the memory or hard drives
Nope sure doesn't nothing about bluetooth in the device manager.

 

Then you need to install the specific bluetooth drivers for your Intel 6235 card. You can get them from the Intel site.

 

Already did that, it installs fine but when the computer restarts it is gone again.

 

Check the Device Manager (Windows Key + R > type devmgmt.msc); see what it says under the "Network adapters" section after you restart and the Bluetooth device isn't recognized.

 

I found a topic on intel's site today, some tech by the name of Mark would not help anyone and said if the OEM did not install the card intel was not going to provide support or assistance.
Needless to say he is not on three pages of posters Christmas Card mailing list.

but the blue tooth it is not recognized nor seen in the Device Manager.

 

please see this post The bluetooth portion requires usb I had to move it to a different mini pci e slot (the wwan slot and tape pin 20).

http://forum.notebookreview.com/len...l-6235-bluetooth-4-0-working-lower-temps.html

yours might be different but the intel forums have lots questions and I believe the bluetooth won't work on just a wifi slot. If you have another free slot try it in there.

 

jedisurfer1
Thanks for the reply and post, I will not be with bluetooth then, I only have three USB ports and one is 3.0 wished I had two of them, but I am not that technically advanced for that.
You know the funny thing about it, the pin that has the white mark on it I think that pin was not on these cards I installed, if I had another card in hand I would confirm that.
But I do remember a pin missing on the long line of pins and was concerned these cards would not work properly with it missing. Again the net works the best and the Bluetooth works fine on the Asus U56E model PC, it is just mine it is all messed up and not working.

 

I was under the impression that the Bluetooth adapter was a separate transceiver under the Intel card...like the Wimax transceiver was on the Intel 6250 card. As such, it needed it's own separate drivers to be installed? But I am probably wrong. Intel has probably changed it so both transceivers run under the same PCIe slot instead of the WiFi card on the PCIe rail, and the Bluetooth under the USB rail. But also, here is my device manager. My Bluetooth card, while separate, still shows under the Bluetooth Radios and it's network protocols display under the Network Adapters. I didn't think MS changed which category a Bluetooth radio is listed under?

Yeah, that doesn't surprise me that OEM won't help without some sort of a handout. What helps us here is for you to post your system specs. And I know I sound like a broken toy, but you did download and install the Intel Bluetooth drivers set for your 6235 card? It would have been either of these drivers packages:

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Det...8, 64-bit*&DownloadType=Software Applications

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Det...kw=intel®+proset/wireless+bluetooth+software+

 

Hi Neil actually the mini pcie slot must be wired for usb, so if you have another slot for wwan which some laptops do I'd try the 6235 in that slot. I know some dedicated wifi slots are designed for wifi only and bluetooth or wimax won't work, so you need the slot wired for it. What laptop do you have, someone might have useful info for it.

If you go to device manager and click show hidden devices. If no bluetooth options have the exclamation mark then your computer is not seeing the bluetooth part (which I think most dedicated wifi slots don't have the usb wired)

 

radji
Yes my Device manager looked like yours after installing the drivers, but just as soon as you reboot it is gone like it never existed and that is the screen shot after a reboot.
Anyway here is my specs.
MODEL NUMBER ASUS S56CA-XH71
display 15.6" HD Widescreen Display, 1366 x 768 Resolution

OPERATING SYSTEM Windows 7 Professional

CPU / processor Intel® Core™ Gen3 i7-3517U Duo Core Processor (4M Cache, 1.9 GHz) 17W
graphics / video card Intel HD Graphics 4000

System memory (RAM) 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz RAM

hard drive 250GB SSD

optical drive SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW Dual Layer

Wireless 802.11b/g/n Wireless Networking
bluetooth Bluetooth 4.0

KEYBOARD Standard
webcam HD Webcam

DISPLAY INTERFACE
1 x HDMI
1 x mini display port
1 x VGA

NETWORK INTERFACE
1 x 10/100/1000Mbps Network

microphone
1 x Built-In
AUDIO Features & PORTS

Built-in Stereo speakers
1 x Combo Mic-in & Headphone-out

usb ports
2 x USB 2.0
1 x USB 3.0
card reader 1 x SD Card Reader

battery 4-cell lithium ion

 

Jedisurfer is correct. If the PCIe mini port is not wired for USB connectivity as well, then it will not be able to identify the Bluetooth portion of your 6235 card. BUT...you stated in your OP that the bluetooth was working when you first installed the Intel 6235 card, yes. And the Atheros card you originally had included bluetooth as well? So, here's something to try. Go into your device manager. Uninstall any of the Intel drivers (and Atheros if they show up there as well). Then reboot. Go into your device manager and uninstall your Intel WiFi card. In the confirmation box, make sure to check the option to delete the driver files after uninstalling. Then reboot. Go back into device manager again. If the Intel card still shows up there, then uninstall it again. We are trying to get rid of all the driver files to start fresh. Once the Intel card shows up a a "network adapter" and not as an Intel card, then download and install the stock Intel/ASUS bluetooth and wireless card drivers. See if that gets you going. ASUS - S56CA

 

Thank you gents I will try this and post results.

Now the Atheros card I have no idea if the blue tooth worked or not, it would not work on 5.0 GHZ wireless N so that is the reason that card had to go.
I do know it had the bluetooth icon and software on the machine prior to the NIC upgrade, but I did not try it and I was more concerned of my router working correctly and getting the fastest wireless net I could since I am so restricted here at this house with the 6.0 meg.

 

Yeah, according to the websites I checked, the atheros card in you ASUS ultrabook is only a 2.4GHz model. Usually a 5GHz model card will require 3 antennae. But I have seen ones that only require two. So I don't know if it's a technology thing, or a budget thing. But if you had the bluetooth icon with the atheros card, then its a safe bet it's bluetooth was working properly.

 

Well I tried it and reloaded the files from Asus's site and same, so I am guessing to get it to work it would require modification to the machine or go back to a single band card.

After removing and re-installing everything on th last re-boot the blue tooth appeared in the icon bar and once the net card make the connection to my router the blue tooth icon vanished and the computer made the bump sound, so I am assuming they are conflicting big time and maybe running on the same line or something, not sure and pretty much throwing in the towel on this one.

Thanks for your help guys, but looks like I will just be happy with a better net.

 

If you disconnect from the router, does the bluetooth icon reappear?

 

Hi guys, I seem to be having a similar problem, Sony Vaio VGN-NW20EF/S, have replaced Atheros WIFI card with Intel Advanced N-6235 + Bluetooth to add a dual band and Bluetooth functionality . Windows 7 64-bit, WIFI is working great but Bluetooth is not detected by Windows, Under Device Manager in Hidden Devices it shows Intel Bluetooth. Not sure how to make Bluetooth work, Have latest Intel drivers, WIFI switch is on, of course. Would appreciate any help. Thanks.

 

maybe try and taoe pin 20, someone told me it was on/off pin.

 

Well I have tried just about everything, if I have the router off on the install and reboot it will detect blue tooth, but just as soon as the internet comes live blue tooth is gone period and no getting it back.
Hidden Device Manager shows Blue tooth as well
I think the machine and components for the internet and blue tooth is very low grade and a shame that ASUS would do that to a machine.
To me for a laptop "non gaming" more home office type application this day and time over a 1K in price should have all the bells and whistles.
ASUS's lack of concern and support has made the decision to never purchase another one, I am going back to Dell when I need a new one, at least they install the proper cards with a machine.
My 2007 Latitude has wireless N 5.0 and blue tooth and nothing have been changed on that machine.

 

So that would be a no? What I'm getting at is if you're connected to the internet and there's no bluetooth, if you open the wireless networks box from your notifications task bar and click the disconnect button, does the Bluetooth come back on? It's my hunch that the Bluetooth cannot function at the same time as the wifi cause they both share an antenna.

EDIT: after doing a more extensive Google search, there seems to be mucha other persons with this same problem. So, the way I figure it, you've got two options. One is to wait and see if Intel releases a patch or updated driver which addresses the issue. Two, if possible, return the Intel card and get a Killer wireless one with Bluetooth instead.

 

Blue tooth and the internet cannot work at the same time you are correct.
I have been told to stay away from those killer cards that is the reason I went and only shopped for the intel cards.

Funny thing about it, the card works great in my wife's Asus U56E, blue tooth and all.

 

Yup, see that's the problem with these dual card setups. That's why I stay with my Intel 6300 card and the Dell 375 bluetooth card separate. That way there's no conflict. But I suppose the dual use cards are the way to go as far as the ultrabooks are concerned.

But, hey! At least you got your answer.

 

Thanks. I have taped pin 20 and now WIFI is always on, even when I turn the WIFI switch off, but still no bluetooth. It shows in Hidden Devices as Intel Certino Wireless Bluetooth +High Speed Devices, other than that no change.

 

actually if it shows bluetooth as hidden that's a good thing (some people don't even get this).. Do you have the drivers, the separate bluetooth drivers installed. Or extract the bluetooth driver to a folder. In device manager right click wireless bluetooth +high speed devices and choose update driver and point it to the bluetooth folder. I have bluetooth and wifi working together on my 6235. But speed does drop from 300mbps to 144mbps when I turn on my bluetooth. I believe because they both use 2.4ghz and there is interference.

 

Hi, have done it, it says that the drivers are up to date. I'm using latest Intel ProSet Software for Bluetooth, When I restart the computer, a bluetooth icon comes up on task bar for less than a second and then disappears. It seems the computer just doesn't see Bluetooth. I have a Sony Vaio NW-20EF/S - maybe its motherboard just does not support the bluetooth or maybe it's something to do with mini Mini-PCIe card and a wired USB thing I have ready about earlier on?.

 

6300 series though you need three wires for hook up correct?

After looking at the schematic that is the reason I did not get the 6300 because my ultrabook only shows two wires to the wireless card.

 

I installed an Intel 6235 card a few weeks ago in an HP notebook where I work, so after seeing this thread I decided to check and see if Bluetooth was working with wifi enabled. The notebook had a single band card Intel 2230 card installed that uses the same drivers as the 6235, so I didn't have to install drivers. (The 2230 also includes Bluetooth, so there is no separate Bluetooth radio installed in the notebook). The Bluetooth radios do show up in device manager, and I was able to connect the notebook to my Bluetooth enabled phone while using wifi. On this notebook with the new 6235 card, wifi and Bluetooth will work at the same time.

 

Yup. The 6300 uses three antennae and my Dell 375 bluetooth card uses it's own separate one. You obviously only have a single card setup with two antennae. But, did you see a third antenna cable tucked away somewhere inside the notebook when you installed your 6235 card?

 

I did not see another wire, but I am going to ask Asus to give me the info.

 

Has anyone taken and actually inspected the S56CA XH71 book to see if there is a 3rd antenna wire?

 

The third antenna wire will be either gray (for the WiFi 3rd antenna) or blue (for the Bluetooth Antenna).

 

Asus as usual would not help so I will explore tomorrow

 

It's a real pain, if you forget you password...spent an hour trying to get it back.

Anyway, I found a possible solution to the problem with Bluetooth, a user was able to bring bluetooth online by masking out pin 51, similiar to pin 20 if your bios disables it. Credit goes to Finbarr J. Smyth for posting the solution, I found his post on Amazon (of all places).

I followed it up in the technical papers for this wifi and it confirms that pin 51 disables the bluetooth as 20 is for wifi, link below.

http://ftp.compal.com/Download/NB/T...roducts_Hardware_Specification_EPS_Rev2.2.pdf

Just wanted to share this with everyone, if you get anywhere with this mod, please let us know.

Good luck.

 

I just registered to say thank you, man.

I was driving myself crazy with the BT part of my intel 7260 card, but as it has the same pinout layout than this one, taping the 51 pin was the answer.
I hope this helps more people with my card too. I can confirm this solved the BT issue.

Thanks again!

 

Same for me, masking pin 51 solved the riddle for my Sony Vaio laptop and the $25.- Intel card. Now I have a solid 300 Mbps connection or better & 5G reception. The loss of the bluetooth was less a burden than the added WiFi functions, but now everything works fine.

Many thanks from Arnhem (The Netherlands)