Intel Atom versus Intel Pentium M 733 processor

I am thinking of purchasing an older 10.6 inch laptop that has an Intel Pentium M 733 processor @ 1.1Ghz. How does this processor compare in processing power with the new Intel Atom processors in the current netbooks ??? Thanks for any info. God Bless


By the way the laptop is a used Averatec AV1150 that is the same size as the current netbooks but has an DVD-RW drive built in to it. and a 1280 x 800 resolution.

 

The Pentium M will be a bit faster. Not by too much, though. It's about two and a half minutes for both in wPrime 32m.

 

There almost identical in power. Anadtech has done several benchmarks:
http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=3321&p=8

 

Thanks for the info !!! Looks like the older Pentium M 733 processor is about the same as the current Intel Atom, but what makes the Averatec AV1150 really more attractive is that it has better screen resolution and the built-in optical drive. God Bless

 

I had that Averatec. It's a very nice laptop imo. With XP it runs well.

 

The Pentium M 1.1ghz is FAR superior.

WPrime measures clock speeds only. It is a usesless benchmark that provides no information about CPU performance. How people still dont understand this is mind boggling.

Atom 1.6ghz cpu = Clereon M 900mhz in performance.

 

Already have had answers saying comparable cpu performance. Though that is only part of the story. The netbook will have *faster* graphics and a newer, faster 160GB-per-platter 2.5" SATA HDD. On balance, it will get the job done faster. Can also have any of the recent Indilinx-based SSDs installed as well if you want to fly faster.

Following gateway netbook worthy of consideration too, offering hi-def LCD and better gpu performance:

11.6" $400 Gateway LT3103u Athlon L110-1.2 2GB 250GB ATI X1270 1366x768 review | NBR discussion

 

Here's Anantech's conclusion after running several synthetic and real world benchmarks:

 

HA! A pentium M 1.2ghz is SO SUPERIOR than an Atom CPU its not even funny. You obviously have never used either CPU before. I have, Ive used 4 different model netbooks all with Atom CPU and UMPCs and other ultra-portable laptops with Pentium M ULV cpus running at 1-1.3ghz. The Pentium M units were SO much faster in apps its not even funny. VMware CHOKED on all the Atom based netbooks yet ran fine on the Pentium M based units due to the Pentiums Ms SUPERIOR out-of-order super-scale design unlike the crippled Atom CPU. Dont you know Anantech gets PAID to post positive reviews...

People need to understand that the Atom design is taken from the basics of the ORIGINAL Pentium 1 cpu which was an in-order design just like the Atom is.

I can go on and on all day about this as I have used many of these units personally.

 

i would just get a nice used HP 2510p with a 1.2ghz u-7500 ulv cpu from ebay and you can beat any netbtop based Atom and Pentium M cpu. there are a few on ebay for under $500, and all of them still have 1-2 years international warranty i would not trade for anything. i got one with a u-7700 1.33 with 2 years remaining and i love it. even comes with a optical drive.

 

You're so funny iGrim, I use Pentium M and Atom N270 daily. Look at my profile if you're interested. I even benchmarked them. And since I can clock my Pentium M at 800Mhz, 1.2Ghz and 1.6GHz I have a pretty good picture of what it can do.

So the choice is now whether to believe Anandtech and my own observations or iGrim.

Unless you're going to post real world benchmarks to back up any of your claims I'm going to believe my own observations and Anandtech.

Going on all day is not going to convince anyone. It would be different if you could link to respectable websites or post your own real world benchmark results.

 

yeah, loved my 2710p, too (tablet version of the 2510p). and now with the indilinx based photofast upto 128gb ssd coming to zif, one could even get the notebook to real high end performance trough it.

and i like the additional batterypack which one can put below. huge amount of portable power, then

 

Due to its complexity VMware is an excellent example of how crippled the Atom CPU really it. Please try for yourselves. VMware runs SO SLOW on Atom based CPUs that its almost unusable yet it runs pretty GOOD on pentium M based units. The difference is shocking.

 

Well either way I do not really plan on purchasing a netbook but am really considering the used Averatec AV1150 as it is about the same size, tiny bit more powerful than the netbook with the Atom CPU, has better screen resolution, and a built-in optical drive. Again just my thoughts. God Bless

 

Keep in mind though that CPU speed does not equal overall speed of the system. Memory, FSB and hard drive will probably be faster on the netbook.

 

Fast memory and FSB is useless when coupled with a crippled CPU like the Atom.

 

What kind of atom netbooks do you have? Does it use SSD? Those SSDs are like 2-3 times slower in sequential read/write and abit slower in random read and write. Typically, expect 2-3times more performance out of a HDD version of intel atom netbook compared to SSD version.

With my netbook, I've actually compared to a old sony ultraportable with Pentium M 1.2ghz. My netbook seriously owned that sony laptop. This netbook can play 720P, 1080P blueray rips, autocad, maya 2009, photoshop, AE...etc and almost anything you throw at it. That penium M laptop can barely plan 720P blue ray rips.

Like Phil said, CPU processing power isn't everything. Faster HDD, RAM, FSB and everything makes a lot of difference.

 

If you can get that used averatec for cheap then thats the route i would take,plus the dvd drive is icing on the cake.
Some times old is better...................

 

This is simply too funny! 720p, 1080p, blueray rips, autocad, photoshop.....all on a 10" netbook??? Who do you think you are fooling? NOBODY does those things on a tiny netbook. Ya 1080p is REALLY needed on a 10" LCD that has like 1/4 the resolution of the video. Simply too funny! :laugh:

All the netbooks Ive used had 160gb 2.5" hard drives in them. Yes, I agree the SSD drives in netbooks are awful and incredibly slows down the system.

 

Hmm..1080P looks much better than 480P on my 8.9" screen. Also, I use it as a media center, so it's basically hooked up to my HDTV when I need it.Those HD movies even plays fine with the integrated. It video itself did not skip any frames, but the media center interface itself is lagging. LOL So yes, there's nothing wrong in using my netbook to play 720P and 1080P blueray rips. I use windows media player 12 play those 1080P and 720P blue ray rips with its integrated h.264 codec.

AutoCad isn't super fast, but perfectly capable for regular drawings.

Photoshop loads faster than my quadcore desktop computer due to eboostr3 caching. The performance isn't bad at all. Majority of the filter can be applied under 1 second on 6 megapixle pictures. For more complex projects, I'd turn on my quadcore computer.

BTW... check out the video I have in my signature. 20 seconds boot time (without even using eboostr3 to cache data). Now I can probably seqeeze another 5 seconds off if I used eboostr3 when I shot the video.

You're really missing a lot on these new cheap technologies. Just because "nobody does those things" doesn't mean I can't do those things.

 

Um, iGrim, why not watch HD content, or edit photos with an advanced image editor on a netbook? I do all that as well as play Sim City 4 and view Google Earth on my EEE since for the moment it is my only computer. Netbooks are after all just slow midget laptops. And Atom processors are a little bit more powerful than you think.

BTW, I do all this on an 8.9" screen. Just because you can't handle it doesn't mean others can't.

 

Why they are so cheap then?

 

Because he's comparing a used item's prices vs the price of a new netbook.

 

Used + outdated.

Can still be a very useful laptop though.

 

With single threaded program, Atom 1.6GHz is about equal to a Pentium M running at 900MHz. That means it isn't vastly faster, but somewhat faster.

Out of order helps a lot, but that's not the only feature differentiating between CPUs. Same out of order CPUs perform vastly different. Atom is a 2 issue superscalar, in-order CPU like Pentium MMX, but with modern day advancements, and aren't comparable at all.

That said, there are always apps that happens to be worst case scenario, but dismissing entire family for one app is kinda ignorant.

 

I think that in the tests like 1.6GHz SuperPi Atom can beat Pentium M 1.1 GHz just because of the clock speed. It also works at higher FSB than Pentium M.
However, Atom processors have much smaller L2 cache. Because of it, I think that the performance of Atom processors can be clockwise compared to AMD Semprons or even to earlier Intel Pentium 3. However, Atom processors are much more effective in performance per Watt, because they are made using a more advanced chip making technology than Semprons or Pentium 3.

 

I ran some benchmarks here:
Atom 1.6Ghz equals Pentium M 1.2GHz in Passmark CPU test.
In Cinebench 9.5 (single CPU) the Pentium M 1.2Ghz wins with quite a clear margin.

 

Would you like to run SuperPi 2M on both processors?

 

Super Pi ( this version, not Hyper Pi).
Pentium M 1.2Ghz 2:36
Pentium M 1.6Ghz 2:10

I don't have an Atom here now so maybe someone else can do that.
NBC says:
N2701.6Ghz 3:28

In Wprime Atom would do a lot better because of the hyper threading.

 

My Super Pi time was 3:16 with aero off. I had Asus's Super Hyrid Engine in Super Performance mode, Windows in High Performance mode, and 27 running processes.

Wprime same thing.

 

Thanks for doing that, but isn't Hyper Pi different than Super Pi?

 

I meant super pi.

 

I got 3:11 for super PI on my atom processor at 1.6ghz.