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    Intel Dual Core T2080 to a Core 2 Duo?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by buffdaddy35, Aug 5, 2007.

  1. buffdaddy35

    buffdaddy35 Newbie

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    Hi all,

    Just bought a HP notebook with a Dual Core T2080 processor and was wondering if it could be upgraded to a Core 2 Duo?

    Not sure I would actually do it, maybe somewhere down the line. But was wondering if these processors are compatible with each other? And is there any advantage to even upgrading (if its possible)?
     
    buffdaddy35, Aug 5, 2007
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  2. who8mahrice

    who8mahrice Notebook Evangelist

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    I believe it MIGHT be possible with the older Core 2 Duos, i.e. T5300, T5400, T5500, T5600, and T7200.

    I'm pretty sure you won't be able to with the Santa Rosa Core 2 Duos, i.e. T7100, T7300, T7500, T7700 as you'd need a whole new motherboard. For one thing, the front side buses are different.
     
    who8mahrice, Aug 5, 2007
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  3. Copycatken

    Copycatken Notebook Geek

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    I think that you can upgrade to any Core 2 Duo T5XXX and T7XXX which are on socket M. So anything core 2 duo except the new Santa Rosa ones.
     
    Copycatken, Aug 5, 2007
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  4. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    there is also a t7400 and t7600 that are not santa rosa, that use the older socket, that you could upgrade to should you choose to do so.
     
    masterchef341, Aug 5, 2007
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  5. fabarati

    fabarati Frorum Obfuscator

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    What chipset are you using? If you're unlucky you're on one that doesn't accept Core 2 Duos. Check it with CPUz
     
    fabarati, Aug 5, 2007
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  6. zfactor

    zfactor Mastershake

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    no ... from what intel told me and the reason we brought back the toshiba my wife bought originally is because the t2060, t2080, and there is one newer i forget the number for it, are a 533 fsb and they utilize the gml based chipset which is locked to 533.. all the other gmXXX based chipsets are upgradeable but only to the 667fsb none of them are upgradable to the newer santa rosa 800mhz again this was direct with intel during a conversation with one of their higher up techs.. i could not find any info on these "pentium dual core" chips so i called a freind of mine who's brother works for intel.. i got the full story on these chips and what they actually are..

    btw dont go by cpuz, with the gmxxx based boards it will give you erratic readings also with the pentium dual cores they read as a regular core duo with cpuz.. the t2080 reads as a t2250...
     
    zfactor, Aug 5, 2007
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  7. techguy2k7

    techguy2k7 Notebook Evangelist

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    They read as a "regular Core Duo" because that's exactly what they are ;) Pentium dual-core branded chips are just re-labeled Core Duos with half the L2 cache disabled.
     
    techguy2k7, Aug 5, 2007
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  8. zfactor

    zfactor Mastershake

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    yes but according to intel they actually normally use the gml chipset which will not allow any cpu over the 533fsb.. make sure you know what you are getting.. we had one here and i know for a fact what they are.. intel specifically said you probably will not be able to upgrade this past a 533 fsb cpu..
     
    zfactor, Aug 5, 2007
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  9. hasafraker

    hasafraker Newbie

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    ok I just ordered a Toshiba A135-4666 and I can confirm that it's using the Intel 943GML chipset: this from Toshiba's website

    Intel® Pentium® dual-core:
    • Intel® Pentium® dual-core processor T2080
    o 1.73GHz, 1MB L2, 533MHz FSB
    • Mobile Intel® 943GML Express Chipset

    So... since I'm not looking at breaking laptop speed records with this thing, it's primary use will be for school and work, I might torture myself and try to see if it will handle any games but I doubt it as my desktop system has plenty of gaming grunt.

    Here's my Q.

    Since this chipset is locked down at 533mhz FSB, has anybody tried to see if the Core 2 Duo T5300 would work in this laptop? It's a 533mhz FSB chip, but it has 2mb L2 which would be quite a decent performance upgrade, kick the system up to it's full 2gigs of ram and this should be a decent performer.

    What do you think? Has anybody tried to upgrade one of these 943GML based machines?
     
    hasafraker, Aug 9, 2007
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  10. ravic

    ravic Notebook Consultant

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    I am looking for an answer to this too. Intel makes you believe that FSB makes a big difference. But it is not that big of a deal going from 533 to 667.

    533 Core2Duo should work, I have a CPU to test, but dont want to buy a laptop to figure it out.
     
    ravic, Aug 12, 2007
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  11. zfactor

    zfactor Mastershake

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    IF YOU CAN SCORE A 533 FSB core 2 duo then according to intel it should work.. but the mainboard is locked to 533fsb NOT THE CHIPSET.. so even if you could run the t2080 at a higher bus speed it would not be able to be done with that chipset..

    imo the t2080 is NOT AT ALL A BAD PROCC... we have them in our business laptops for the shop and the wife's business' they perform just fine honestly with games imo the only setback in your setup will be the 950 graphics that are integrated and THOSE 99.99% are not upgradable so doing a cpu upgrade you might be shooting yourself in the foot if you know what i mean..

    and i can tell you ravic for a fact that i have tried a 667 cpu on that board and it will not boot with it.. for 150% sure it will not work..
     
    zfactor, Aug 12, 2007
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