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    Intel GMA 4500MHD HELP!

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Lenbob, Dec 9, 2008.

  1. Lenbob

    Lenbob Notebook Enthusiast

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    So I was just wondering how much video memory the Intel GMA 4500MHD has? The wiki online says 512MB...And I can't find a clear answer anywhere...
     
  2. Hancock

    Hancock Notebook Enthusiast

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    What does it matter? That graphics processor can not fill even 128mb of memory and have playable frame rates. If you dont play games then the graphics dont even use more than 32mb....
     
  3. Lithus

    Lithus NBR Janitor

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    None. It's an integrated card.
     
  4. Melody

    Melody How's It Made Addict

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    ^He is correct

    The HD4500 is an integrated card and therefore does not possess any dedicated VRAM, not that it would matter anyways since as Hancock said, the IGP is not made to handle dedicated memory.
     
  5. Lenbob

    Lenbob Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well I want to play a game that has a minimum requirments of

    System: 1.8 GHz processor or equivalent
    RAM: 512 MB
    Video Memory: 128 MB
    Hard Drive Space: 8000 MB
    Other: Broadband internet connection (DSL/Cable

    And my laptop has

    System:2.00 GHz
    RAM:3 GB
    Intel GMA 4500MHD
    Hard Drive Space: 320GB

    So I have 3 more questions...Would it play? How well or bad would it play? And what can I do to get it to play?

    Some people say it won't, some say it will as long as its settings are set to low...But I would like it if those 3 questions were answered...Thanks.
     
  6. Melody

    Melody How's It Made Addict

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    Well even if you don't meet the minimum system requirements, sometimes it'll play nonetheless. I've had many games where I don't meet the recommended nor minimum(due to my single core processor) yet some of those games I was able to play and some of them even play very well :D

    The requirement for VRAM is mostly there as a gimmick benchmark for the general public. VRAM has been used a lot in marketing as a simplified tool to evaluate a graphic card when really other things come into play are just as(if not more) important. Now games are getting better and they ask for specific shaders and stuff like that on games.

    The game in question would be nice to know though. We cannot derive much from the minimum requirements, but judging form that it seems to be an older game and the HD4500 can handle 2-3 year older games ok.
     
  7. Helegad

    Helegad Notebook Enthusiast

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    GMAs are not gaming graphics cards. Don't even bother. You'll get really bad framerates.
     
  8. namaiki

    namaiki "basically rocks" Super Moderator

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    What is the game?

    Name it.

    edit: is it Supreme Commander Universe?
     
  9. Melody

    Melody How's It Made Addict

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    Yes, the Integrated GPUs are not meant for gaming. That doesn't mean they can't do it at all, but they're not made for it so they don't perform well.

    The game's actual name would be good. Older games have a chance of being playable on an IGP. I was able to play The Sims 2, Warcraft 3 and Guild Wars on a GMA945 so if the game itself isn't taxing, it's possible it'll run well.
     
  10. Helegad

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    I'd say it's online if it needs an internet connection. Perhaps WOW or GW?
     
  11. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    One thing you need to know: the amount of video memory does not define how powerful a graphics card is. The 4500 may have 512MB of memory (or rather use 512MB from system RAM), but it is a 'bad' card that is less powerful than many cards that have as little as 128MB of dedicated video RAM.
     
  12. Lenbob

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    The game is called Supreme Commander. I talked to an associate employee of mine at Wal-Mart, he's in the electronics department and he said that games should work on it, Dell.com said my Studio 15 can handle mainstream gaming, and I saw someone playing Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare on his Studio 15 with the same exact specs as mine, he said as long as the settings are set to low...
     
  13. Hancock

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    No way is it going to run Supreme Commander well. No way. Dell will feed you anything you want to hear. Dont even waste your time. Play the game on a desktop with a real video card.

    Sure it will probably just start the game but the settings will be so low it will look like crap.
     
  14. Lenbob

    Lenbob Notebook Enthusiast

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    Alright, I didn't get the laptop for gaming anyways so it doesn't bother me, but thanks for the Info everyone. I'll be back if I have anymore questions...Later.
     
  15. ramgen

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    Intel GMAs can play Solitaire only... Don't try anything more complex... :p


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  16. Melody

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    Don't forget Minesweeper! lol :p Oh and for the record,

    But yeah, GMAs aren't meant for gaming(or at least today's definition of 3d gaming) but for everyday use. They have little tools to actually deal with rendering 3d and other such graphics versus a higher end card. The lack of VRAM is not to blame, but he architecture of the GPU itself.

    That being said, Supreme Commander requires a good CPU if I remember well since it's a RTS so just keep that in mind. The HD4500 will probably not be able to run it though.

    Since the laptop wasn't meant for gaming you should be fine though You can stick to 3 years or older games though(or games which do not require 3d graphics), those should run even on an HD4500.
     
  17. Bog

    Bog Losing it...

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    OK, maybe you are getting confused by all these differing opinions... I think that the system requirements for Supreme Commander clarify things quite a bit:

    As you can see, the game must have a graphics card with its own, dedicated memory; the reason for this is that integrated cards borrow their memory from the system RAM and suffer a massive performance hit as a result.

    Greg is correct in saying that more memory doesn't necessarily mean more performance, however there is a big difference between the Intel GMAs and ATI/Nvidia chips. The GMAs were designed for low power consumption and basic GPU tasks (such as playing HD movies); they simply don't have the horsepower for more complex tasks, such as 3D games that utilize today's effects (pixel shading, antialiasing, etc). Moreover, because of their lack of fast access to memory, IGPs take more performance hits in transferring textures to memory.