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    Intel SSD 320 G3 Performance

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by chenavd, Mar 22, 2011.

  1. chenavd

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    Source link (tranditional chinese):
    [??+??]Intel SSD 320 G3 160GB??????AS SSD Benchmark? - Mobile01

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    Test system: i5-750 + 4GB RAM + Asus P7P55D-E Pro

    Intel SSD G2 80G:
    [​IMG]
    seq: 266/70 MB/s
    512k: 204/52 MB/s
    4k: 25/32 MB/s
    4k QD32: 162/49

    Intel SSD G3 160G:
    [​IMG]
    seq: 275/174 MB/s
    512k: 180/177 MB/s
    4k: 22/46 MB/s
    4k QD32: 143/69

    Intel SSD G2 80G:
    [​IMG]
    seq: 255/77 MB/s
    4k: 22/45 MB/s
    4k-64Thrd: 140/33
    Acc time: 0.249ms/0.089ms

    Intel SSD G3 160G:
    [​IMG]
    seq: 265/169 MB/s
    4k: 20/41 MB/s
    4k-64Thrd: 138/61
    Acc time: 0.056ms/0.079ms


    Any thoughts?
    ps, I noticed the acc. time improve on write part. does it have significant impact on performance? (sorry i am not a computer guy)

    um...sorry i think people have to go that website and click links in that website in order to display pictures
    sorry for the inconvinience
     
    chenavd, Mar 22, 2011
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    Nice. Thanks for the data :)
    Seems like the Write have gone up tremendously from G2s although he is comparing a 80GB G2 to a 160GB G3. G3s 80GB and 160GB have 90MB/s and 165 MB/s in Seq Write, so it is probably an unfair comparison.
    Don`t know what to make of these tests...
     
    Cloudfire, Mar 22, 2011
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  3. Abula

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    On the same link, one of the comments say,

     
    Abula, Mar 22, 2011
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    Oh was the difference between 80/160 then. No wonder why 4k was the same :)
     
    Cloudfire, Mar 22, 2011
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    chenavd Notebook Enthusiast

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    o, yeah.
    that comment said that people from china forum has already opened it up and confirmed that it's intel's control chip which is the same as G2 (same model!?)

    um, will wait for some formal test from known website.
    510 or 320...
     
    chenavd, Mar 22, 2011
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    510 if you have Sata3.. If not, I'd say the 320 is nice for gaming
     
    hizzaah, Mar 23, 2011
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    Is the 510 better for SATA III than the 320 will be, or will the 320 be better for gaming regardless.
     
    Dave3, Mar 23, 2011
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    That crucial is changing my mind.... :)
     
    Abula, Mar 23, 2011
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    The 320's are not sata3.. If have sata3 it would be a good ideal to utilize it. I say the 320 would be better for gaming because it has better rand 4k's.. Might take a look at those new crucial drives since they use sata 3, and have really high randoms.. I'm just sticking with the intels for now since reliability is huge for me, and their other drives have a great track record. Hopefully that won't change.. Plus I think the 510's have just as much potential to have high randoms as the c400 drives because they use the same controllers. So it's just a firmware thing.
     
    hizzaah, Mar 23, 2011
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    I'm deciding between the Intel's because I'd rather go with the most reliable and have peace of mind with what I bought. My laptop should have SATA III so I guess it makes sense to go with 510 (though I'll be gaming a lot)?
     
    Dave3, Mar 23, 2011
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    I believe the Intel 510 use the same controller as the older C300 (albeit custom firmware), not the C400.

    SATA/600 doesn't matter since that by itself doesn't make a drive faster than a SATA/300 one. If the SATA/300 drive has been 4K's like the 320, it will still be better than the 510.
     
    sgogeta4, Mar 23, 2011
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    from the Anand review of the Intel 510
     
    hizzaah, Mar 23, 2011
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    Hmm, I thought they used a different controller on the C400 (9130, though that might be reserved for the newer hybrid SSDs). But either way, the 9174 controller is also in the C300:

    Crucial RealSSD-C300 SATA-III 6Gbps SSD | Crucial RealSSD-C300,Benchmark,Review,CTFDDAC256MAG-1G1,Marvell 88SS9174,SATA-III,6Gbps,SSD Test,Crucial RealSSD-C300 CTFDDAC256MAG-1G1 SATA-III 6Gbps MLC SSD Benchmark Performance Solid State Drive Review

    Is there any change in the revision of the controller or a way to tell the difference between the C300/400 and Intel 510?
     
    sgogeta4, Mar 23, 2011
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    i'm sure it's denoted in one of the many numbers they have printed on the controller chips.. idk what they all mean though
     
    hizzaah, Mar 23, 2011
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    Intel, I am disappoint. :(

    Mr. Mysterious
     
    Mr_Mysterious, Mar 23, 2011
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    I still think that's not an Intel 320
     
    Torai, Mar 24, 2011
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    Smaller nand, same capacity, lower write cycles, same controller and still SATA2 (as the final indication)... why wouldn't it perform similarly?

    I believe it's a 320, but would love to be proved wrong. ;)
     
    tilleroftheearth, Mar 24, 2011
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  20. Phil

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    I think too that it could very well be a real G3. Seems like the G3 is a G2 with improved write speeds and 25nm NANDs.

    It all depends on the price if this will be a succesful product.
     
    Phil, Mar 24, 2011
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    I want to see the pricing for the 250+ GB drives.

    When it comes to SSDs, I tend to value storage space of raw performance, so if we get a ~300GB G3 in the $500 range I'll jump on it in a a heartbeat, even if it's "only" at the performance level of a G2.
     
    SoundOf1HandClapping, Mar 24, 2011
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    The G2 drives are great performers, and if the G3 offers similar speeds but with more capacity at less cost, that's a winner as far as I'm concerned.
     
    saturnotaku, Mar 24, 2011
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    I hope these are cheap or I'd buy something else. rumor has it they will be close to the same prices as the G2's (which I'm disappointed with).

    intel, you need to have at least one of these to things to be successful:
    1. preform at the top of the pile
    2. be cheaper in $/GB
     
    yuio, Mar 24, 2011
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    Holy moly that is expensive! I can see the dollar signs rolling in my eyes now..
     
    Tsunade_Hime, Mar 27, 2011
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    lol @ that price.

    if the higher gig drives are at that ratio there's no way i'll get one.
     
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    Vr-zone said 28th march as release date. That is today :confused:
     
    Cloudfire, Mar 27, 2011
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    still the 27th here in the USA, home of Intel.

    we'll probably get a press release tomorrow with a possibility of preorders appearing on major sites.
     
    MaX PL, Mar 27, 2011
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    lol, if all I've heard comes to be, intel isn't gonna do well with these drives....

    cons:
    -relatively expensive /GB
    -reduced write cycles
    -ok performance (relatively)

    pros...
    ah, it's an intel?
     
    yuio, Mar 27, 2011
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    I need to see some nice speed increase over G2 and good reviews if im going to use my money on it. I doubt it though. We were so impressed when G2s came out, that the next gen from Intel was bound to be overhyped. And i admit it, i got carried away too much by this hype.
    It is either Vertex 3, Intel 510 or 320 for me...
     
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    reduced write cycles ? yes, total write cycles is reduced due to the 34nm -> 25nm change. But I think their random 4K write(guranteed cycle) has been doubled ?
     
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    even if the 4K is doubled... still don't think it's gonna make that big a diffrence, at least not untill OS are designed for SSD's.
     
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    One interesting thing is that amazon has it listed as SSDSA2CT040G3B5, and the swedish website as SSDSA2CT040G310, always though the ending seems not proper for the 320 series (intel also has the 310 as their mSata), so could be a different drive.... who knows.
     
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  34. chimpanzee

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    what do you mean ? I was talking about write cycle(or endurance).
     
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    Unless they've cut WA by a factor of 3 to 4, or they're overprovisioning a lot more heavily, I don't see them doubling overall endurance.
     
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    That is their claim(well according to the leaked spec). 80G goes from 7TB to 14TB or so if I remember. Of course, this is about RANDOM 4K write. We all know the max write is reduced.
     
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    But there really isn't any sort of thing as "Random 4K write endurance". Do you have a source for this so we can try to figure out what they actually mean?
     
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  38. chimpanzee

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    Read Intel's spec of the G2 on their site. It is stated pretty clear there. 7TB RANDOM write for the 80G.
     
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    Maybe I'm blind, but I don't see it at all on this page, or the Product Manual linked from that page... could you be more specific?
     
    Judicator, Mar 28, 2011
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    Well, with those prices, the 320's are sure ones to ignore for now. :(
     
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    well, they make buying the g2 uninteresting as they're much cheaper (i looked at the 160gb ones).
     
    davepermen, Mar 28, 2011
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    from the pricing, this 320 line is all about 160G+. A bit disappointed as I wish it would push down the 80/120G price of G2 but not likely, at least for the moment.
     
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    yeah the <160gb prices aren't nice. and the performance isn't, too. the 80gb one at least is about the same as the g2 80gb.

    lets wait for anandtech for benching all of them.
     
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    davepermen,

    Cheaper in every respect though: not significantly faster, using less 'robust' nand, and a savings (compared to G2's) of of a whole $20 (depending on sales, rebates, etc.) to $75 overpriced (compared to a really good (G2) sale/rebate, etc.).

    Yeah, the smart money will skip these offerings - even for the nominally cheaper 160GB size model.
     
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    newegg is no longer listing the 120gig G2. was out of stock yesterday and today its completely gone.

    looks like a replacement is coming...
     
    MaX PL, Mar 28, 2011
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    The 160GB G3 is cheaper than the G2 (Amazon) and has better write performance. Seems like a good deal to me.

    Let's hope power consumption improved too.
     
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    I don't see 86MB/s to 92MB/s write speeds as an 'improvement'.

    Not a good deal, still.
     
    tilleroftheearth, Mar 28, 2011
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