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    Intel T5270(1.4) vs T5470(1.6)???

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by aphrodavid, Oct 11, 2007.

  1. aphrodavid

    aphrodavid Notebook Enthusiast

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    I notice that Dell is selling the T5270 as their cheapest CPU for the Vostro 1500. I dont know if I should spend an extra $50 and get the T5470. Im a little iffy about the T5270 because I cant find any official info on it. Its not in the CPU guide on this site, its not on Intel's site either. Googling it just gives me a bunch of pages to buy laptops. Does anyone have any official info on this CPU? I will be gaming with this laptop. No matter what CPU I end up going with, I plan on getting 2GB of RAM and the 256MB Nvidia 8600m GT. So with that in mind, is it worth it to spend the extra $50 for the T5470?
     
  2. powerpack

    powerpack Notebook Prophet

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    I would, no definitive reason just my feeling. I have always thought T5470 is good enough for most things but I have to draw the line somewhere and 1.4Ghz is where I am drawing it. What's next 1.3,1.2?
     
  3. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    Intel keep producing new versions of CPUs with lower specs faster than they can update their website. Dual core 1.4GHz is probably OK for many people but it does seem unbalanced to combine it with a good GPU.

    John
     
  4. aphrodavid

    aphrodavid Notebook Enthusiast

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    i see your point but do you think there would be much of a performance difference in these CPUs? im going to be using the laptop for gaming and i figure that the ram and GPU are more important than the CPU.
     
  5. aphrodavid

    aphrodavid Notebook Enthusiast

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    john, i dont want to spend more than the T5470, so my main question is, is there that much of a performace difference between these two? i know neither are the T7500 or anything, but games rely more on the gpu and ram. im just basically wondering if $50 is gonna be worth it to upgrade.
     
  6. powerpack

    powerpack Notebook Prophet

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    about 14% less in total computing power, you don't always use so only matter for certain apps. For gamming here is a link, run on the computer you now have and ignore the results but use it to look at minimum and recommended to see what the games you like want for CPU.
     
  7. aphrodavid

    aphrodavid Notebook Enthusiast

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    powerpack, the processor i have on my current laptop is a pentium M 1.7Ghz. srtest shows its rated at 2.54Ghz. how would the T5270 and T5470 rate?
     
  8. wolfraider

    wolfraider Grand Viezir of Chaos

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    You should get the better CPU!!! 1,4 ghz although dual core it will be the bottleneck in demanding gaming im pretty sure of that. And future games are going to be more CPU demanding.

    1,4 does not equal 2,8GHz P4

    one 1,4 ghz i will assume that it will equal 2,2Ghz p4 and since there are not many games ou there which can use both cores at same than will only one 1,4 Ghz not be enough, check f. ex out those who have bought a core solo 1,2,ghz it is although a C2d it lacks MHZ and therefore very slow cpu which is hardly apt for more than editing paint!
    So as powerpacks says there is a MHz limit... And if i were you i would definitely get a 1,6 Ghz processor...
     
  9. powerpack

    powerpack Notebook Prophet

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    My Turion X2 1.6Ghz rates at like 3.23Ghz I think the C2D is about the same as mine just a guess.
     
  10. wolfraider

    wolfraider Grand Viezir of Chaos

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    i have the t5500 equals a 3,4 pentium D HT or t2450 if such thing exists
    but as i said before i dont believe that 1,4 ghz is good enough for gaming , definitely not if it's modern RTS or FPS games.
     
  11. necetra

    necetra Notebook Guru

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    "Equals" is very incorrect. A Core architecture CPU cannot "equal" a CPU based upon the Netburst architecture. They're just two different things.

    You can't add clock speed either. Just like two people can't drive the same car their own seperate ways. It just doesn't work out.

    I have a T5470 in my new Vostro 1500, but it doesn't outperform my "old" 2.8GHz 3200+ Venice in the games I play. Why? - Some games just don't take advantage of two CPU cores.

    Personally, I would suggest forking over the money for the extra 200MHz if you're looking to the future, your laptop might just last a little bit longer before you consider it unbearable to use. I used a 1.73GHz Dothan for two laptop generations before I jumped onto a Vostro 1500. (From the i9300 through the i9400 to the i1505)

    ^ The T5500's closest older brother is the T2300. I would actually speculate that the T2450 (yes it exists) would steamrun over the T5500 in anything that uses raw clock speed. (T2450 is a 2.0GHz Yonah with a 533FSB)
     
  12. adinu

    adinu I pwn teh n00bs.

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    Because you overclocked the hell out of that cpu. Compare a stock 3200+ with the T5470 and you will get a much different result. Or overclock the T5470 by 40% and then compare it to your 2.8GHz 3200+ and you will see a much smaller difference between the two.
     
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    gitar1 Notebook Guru

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    Recommend the T5470. If anything, you can upgrade it later on down the road if you want to T7100, T7300, T7500, T7700, etc. since it's socket P. (Maybe even some Penryns??).
     
  14. powerpack

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    So you are saying it is a different MoBo between the two? If so yea I don't like the 1.4Ghz anyway and that just adds!
     
  15. gitar1

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    No idea what socket the T5270 uses, but T5470 definitely has P socket.
     
  16. Lithus

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    I'm pretty sure both are socket P given that the 5250 is P. Great thing though is that it's not even listed at Intel.com.
     
  17. wolfraider

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    If u didnt notice i already mentioned that it will only use one core, seems that you dont read clearly. And btw Conroe's clock frequency is not same as netbursts it does not work in same way!!. So my estimates are not wrong if i did PHotoshop and video editing at same time i would outperform Pentium D 3,2 Ghz(dual) a core) anytime!!!
     
  18. necetra

    necetra Notebook Guru

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    I have a Vostro 1500. If you could get me info on how to overclock my T5470, I'll give it a shot if it won't blow up in my face.

    I may be a bit slow, but you missed the rest of my sentence. Anything that uses two cores will crush my Venice in performance. Selective reading? :confused:

    The only point I'm making is that you cannot compare a lower clocked dual core CPU with a higher clocked single core CPU just by saying that a dualcoreCPU-A is equal to a 4.5GHz single core CPU-B.

    ^ When the hell did you become the thread OP?!? (You could be if you had two accounts I guess)
    The dude with the first post (Aphrodavid) said is looking to play games.
    New games make use of multiple threads.
     
  19. Enunes

    Enunes Notebook Consultant

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    The T5250 (1.5 GHz, 2MB L2 Cache, 667MHz FSB) isnt also listed at intel's website and its an option on the hp dv6500t... I guess i'm getting it over the T7250 by budget reasons, its $100 cheaper. Btw i'm getting a 8400gs, it shouldnt bottleneck it, i think (and hope).

    By the way, why is the T5 270 1.4ghz and the T5 250 1.5ghz?
     
  20. powerpack

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    You go Wolfie, I think I agree, I like what you say!
     
  21. necetra

    necetra Notebook Guru

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    The T5250 runs off a 667FSB and the T5270 runs off a 800FSB.
     
  22. Enunes

    Enunes Notebook Consultant

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    Oh.. i see.

    Is that really bad to the 5250? :)
     
  23. wolfraider

    wolfraider Grand Viezir of Chaos

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    This proves your knowledge the t5500 equals in almost everything 5470

    And what is said was'nt lie about conroe and netburst watch this to learn
    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/28cpu-games_6.html

    AS you can see netbursts Dual core is poorly designed and is even outperformed by many single core athlons, but core architecture is very different of Pentium D vs Core 2 duo. Do you think that people are stupid that they call that C2D is twice as fast as Pentium D with same clock frequency, or everyone is a fanboy of Intel? NO, any C2D will kisk your single athlon 3500+ to moon. Surely the mobile editions are not as good as desktop but they will still easily beat up a desktop athlon 3500+.

    I can explain why your game runned so bad:
    It is an old very unknown game which runs best with ati rage GPU's and pentium 2 something like first settlers(i am having simmilar problems with old games they run slower with my t5500 than a celeron 2ghz)!
    IF you played with your t5470 GRAW, Quake 4, or Doom 3 you had more ram in desktop than notebook therefore it runned like ****.
    You are running a modern game with same amount of ram but different GPU's
    go 7400 vs 6800 in which go 7400 is a low end mainstream card which is hardly apt for games..
    You were running your games just as vista came out.

    Run t5470 with a older game(that not uses both cores) etc. W3 and set resolution to 1900x1200 with max settings. Have 1GB ram
    To be fair use mobile x1600

    Repeat it with your athlon only use desktop same desktop components result:

    Your 3500+ gets first on knees when there are too many units!!


    Conclusion: YES you can always compare CPU's, and if your theory was true than we would all run with a very cheap 3ghz celeron, which we dont!