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    Intel X25-M, Corsair X64 or Corsair P64?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by fatjoez, Jan 4, 2010.

  1. fatjoez

    fatjoez Notebook Geek

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    So I want to upgrade my sony vaio z laptops harddrive which is currently just a standard one to an SSD.

    I've been told and read on numerous articles that X25-M is essentially top of the line.
    Though I just want to know do the Corsair X64 / P64 also compare reasonably well in terms of performance/reliability?

    Coming from a standard drive I'm guessing the X25-M / Corsair drives will give me similar performance for standard use like web browsing, writing documents etc.

    So I just want to know is there any particular reason I should consider one over the other?
     
  2. vostro1400user

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    avoid X64, if you check into corsair forum, there are lots failure cases with this series indilnx controller drives. x-25m is best bet.
     
  3. Amnesiac

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    If it were up to me, Intel X-25M G2 would be my choice. Make sure it's G2 though; TRIM support helps.
     
  4. puter1

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    Everybody recommends indilnx controller if you can't afford the Intel.

    I would have recommended the OCZ Vertex if you can't afford the Intel one. In fact, that is what I was waiting for: when I get a laptop, I was planning on a SSD upgrade and considering the Vertex. Isn't that SSD drive good?

    The Intel one is about $40 more. Go for the Intel?
     
  5. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    go for intel. if you can afford it, it's the best option
     
  6. marcuslai

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    i am not one of these people.

    if you can't afford the intel, wait till you can.

    it does not appear that ocz / indilinx have figured things out at all. here are a few that died recently including one on Jan 1 ... http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66063 .. by my count there are 4 dead drives in a thread of 23 posts.

    plus their used random read performance (really the only one that count in my daily and presumably quite normal / regular usage) is no where close to intel's.

    my vertex turbo 250 gb disappeared from bios about 2 weeks after i got it .. it came back for a while, then disappeared again.

    switched to intel g2 160 gb ... i did miss the extra capacity, but day-to-day performance (not benchmarks - i never run them) is noticeably better and not having to worry if the bios is going to detect the hdd the next time i turn the notebook on is worth whatever few pecentages extra in premium intel might be charging.
     
  7. fatjoez

    fatjoez Notebook Geek

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    I see. How about the Corsair P64? Does that run the same controller?
     
  8. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    afaik, it's a samsung based ssd. they have their own pro and contra. so it's not the same as the vertex, but one i wouldn't suggest just as well. not worthing the money for the experience you get with it.
     
  9. Phil

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    I've owned the Intel X-25M for a while. Amazingly fast.

    Great drive for a notebook like the Sony Z.
     
  10. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    you don't have it anymore? :( why?
     
  11. Phil

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    As you know my usage is really light. All I do is browse the web. The impact of having a slower hard drive on my usage is quite small. So I prefered having 320GB of slower diskspace.

    And someone offered to pay the same amount as I paid so I sold it.

    I'll buy an SSD again when prices come down.
     
  12. davepermen

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    what you need the 320gb for if you browse the web? just kidding.. :) (a bit).
     
  13. Phil

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    No you're right, I don't really need it. It was more a financial decision.

    I'm looking forward to see the 40Gb Intel arriving.
     
  14. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    i wanted to suggest you that but feared it somehow :)
     
  15. Phil

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    It seems pretty on topic here ;)
     
  16. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    +1 to Generation 2 Intel SSD. Haven't had it for too long, but mine works like a charm.

    Also, eBay rocks.
     
  17. timesquaredesi

    timesquaredesi MagicPeople VooDooPeople

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    i'm personally waiting until around august 2010 to buy an ssd. by then i think prices will have cooled off to some extent. i start my masters program in august/september so i want to upgrade the lenovo x200s i got from work and use it for school.

    i figure it's a tiny machine (less than 2.5 pounds), and it's quite fast so with an ssd, it'll be lightning quick. i'd probably take it with me to class on a daily basis. im looking to get at least a 160gb ssd but dont want to spend north of $150....

    lets see where the market goes :D
     
  18. sean473

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    Intel G2 drives for sure with windows 7 and TRIM...
     
  19. flynn337

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    Same here. Tastes great with Windows 7.
     
  20. puter1

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    Are the Sony Zaio laptops the lightest? I was wondering if any of the other Sony Vaio laptops would go well with the Intel SSD drive.

    I am having probs comparing laptops still! lol!

    I was also wondering how hard it is to upgrade a Vaio's processor. I had an idea of getting a Vaio, for e.g., and upgrading the T6600 cpu to P8700 or whatever goes in there now (later).

    It's unfortunate they don't have eSATA though! Wish they did!

    The FW series interested me (for having discrete video card and high res) although it's not one of their thin series. I like the Z but it's too much $$. I don't have that type of green for a laptop right now! :(
     
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    I thought the Samsung Q320 looked decent and 13". I think there was another 13" that looked good for being a thin notebook but decent quality but forget the brand.

    I like the Sony Vaio series but so expensive. I'm sure that new Z will be no cheaper than the current Z.
     
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    I wouldn't settle for anything less than Intel, and the even cheaper 40gb versions have been and will be releasing very soon if you dont need too much space on a primary drive.
     
  24. notyou

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    If you could stand to wait a few months, Intel will be refreshing their SSD lineup and OCZ is to release a number of drives with the new SandForce controller (supposedly better than Intel in every way). This should bring prices down a chunk.
     
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    You might want to wait for Crucial's RealSSD C300 that will be available in February. This guy sounds FAST! News Release
     
  26. timesquaredesi

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    ^ wow that sounds insane. i wonder if it'll be lower price since a lot of ssd's are now coming on the market.... i am probably wishing for something that's not gonna happen tho... l0l
     
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    if i can get the 128 for sub $200, i may consider one for my lenovo x200s... but we're probably see prices like that in 2011.... ::rolling eyes::
     
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    I would think the new Crucial 128GB version would be $400 (+-$50) to start ...
     
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    ^ You're right since the current 128GB is $449.99 and the 256GB is an astonishing $799.99 :(
     
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    i doubt the crucial SSD is gonna do as well on SATA 3.0GB/s interface... that's half a interface speed drop...
     
  31. fatjoez

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    so basically for the price level intel x25-m will still be the best. alriitey
     
  32. fatjoez

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    BUMP

    is Intel X25-M is still the peoples choice for 60-80gb SSD drives?
    Wouldn't mind a cheaper alternative if it has similar performance/reliability
     
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    AFAIK its still the people's choice
     
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    the sandforce controllers kick its all over chinatown, but they're high $/GB and unproven.

    so yes, it still is the people's choice. although, now its viewed as 'best value' as opposed to 'most powerful'
     
  35. Phil

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    You might be able to find a 64GB Samsung based drive cheaper.

    It's a bit slower but I doubt you'll notice the difference without benchmark software. Some Intel fans claim they do, I tend to take their words with a grain of salt as placebo effects are notoriously strong.

    Here's a good review that shows the real life differences: http://www.laptopmag.com/review/storage/intel-x25-m-g2.aspx?page=4

    Power consumption of Samsung is better. Anandtech's latest review showed power consumption of the Intel can be pretty steep at times.
     
  36. fatjoez

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    Cheers Phil, helpful,

    can you recommend a specific Samsung based drive?

    Is the Corsair P64 any good?
    In New Zealand
    Corsair P64 $235USD
    Intel X25 $311USD

    So yeah Im leaning towards the Corsair P64 at the moment
    But is there a samsung based drive that would be better than the P64 but stay around the same price?
     
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    Cheers.

    Dont think my local shop has OCZ Summit judging by their website

    I've done a little reading though on the P64 and it seems it hasn't until recently supported TRIM which seems to be widely endorsed..

    So my only concern is I dont want to buy the drive and have to update the firmware on it to support trim.
    And I cruised the forums of corsair and some people complain about the speeds of the p64 over time..

    Starting to make me wonder if I should just go for the Intel X25..
     
  39. Yakuzlin

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    So what's the most powerful ssd? In 80-200 gb market
     
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    Intel X-25M. :) Even if it lacks a couple of MBs in performance in comparison to the most modern drives on the market in some tests [which is really a marginal difference, unless You take writing speed into consideration, but it is not that much important for a normal user], it makes the difference up in having a couple of GBs more space (considering the same price range).