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    Intel to release SSD 335, 525 in 2013 (maybe late November, early December)

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by jaug1337, Oct 22, 2012.

  1. jaug1337

    jaug1337 de_dust2

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    Intel's plans for their solid-state drives (SSD) for 2013 are beginning to form, where we should see the release of the mainstream SSD 335 series, and the performance SSD 525 series getting released.
    Intel could also unleash their latest 20nm NAND flash memory technology onto some of these bad boys.

    Much faster speeds are to introduced. Apparently the'll be using the SandForce SD-2281 controller w/ 20 nm MLC - Multi Level Cell NAND flash memory.
    The Intel 335, 240GB ver. comes with a 500MB/s read and 450MB/s write. Much quicker than before as you might remember ;)


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    More info, to come.

    SOURCE:
    Intel to release SSD 335, SSD 525 series in 2013 :: TweakTown USA Edition,
    http://www.techpowerup.com/174125/Intel-335-Series-Solid-State-Drive-Appears-in-Japan.html,
    http://www.fastestssd.com/new-ssds/intel-moves-to-20nm-ssds-in-2012/
     
  2. davidricardo86

    davidricardo86 Notebook Deity

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    SandForce SD-2281 controller (Intel's firmware/validation) w/ 20 nm MLC - Multi Level Cell NAND flash memory

    VS.

    Samsung's MDX controller w/ 21nm 2bpc MLC NAND


    Who's will be more reliable? Better value? Better performance under various condition? This will be very interesting. :D

    AnandTech - Samsung SSD 840 Pro (256GB) Review

    While the 830 used Samsung's 27nm MLC NAND, the 840 Pro uses Samsung's latest 21nm MLC NAND. The move to 21nm will eventually drive NAND pricing lower, although today Samsung expects price parity between the TLC equipped 840 and the old MLC 830. The 840 Pro should sell for a 25 - 30% premium over the current 830.

    The move to 21nm is also coupled with a move to a 400Mbps Toggle 2.0 NAND interface. Block and page sizes remain the same for 2bpc MLC 21nm NAND, and maximum capacity per die is still 8GB. Although beyond the scope of this article, 3bpc TLC 21nm NAND sees 50% slower program/erase times compared to the 2bpc MLC 21nm NAND.

    Both the 840 and 840 Pro use Samsung's 4th generation SSD controller. Samsung's MAX controller was used in the SSD 470, its successor, the MBX controller, wasn't used in retail drives, while MCX debuted in the 830 and MDX is in the 840/840 Pro. The basic architecture of the controller hasn't changed. Internally there are three ARM9 cores now running at 300MHz. Update: Samsung originally listed ARM9 cores but has since told us that there are three ARM Cortex R4s inside of the new MDX controller.

    The MDX controller features a hardware AES-256 encryption engine that's managed using a system BIOS password like most other drives in this class.

    The MDX controller is paired with 512MB of LPDDR2-1066 in the Samsung SSD 840 Pro, doubling up the DRAM used in the 830 as well as increasing bandwidth to DRAM by 33%:

    The 840 Pro will be available in 64 - 512GB capacities. Although the controller supports up to 1TB of NAND, Samsung believes that the ultra-high-density NAND required to hit 1TB is too cost prohibitive at this point. Spare area is set at around 7% by default, although users will be able to adjust it via Samsung's SSD Magician utility. The vanilla 840 on the other hand will boast more spare area (likely to help manage endurance on the TLC NAND) and will launch at 120GB, 250GB and 500GB capacities as a result.

    The 840 comes with a 3 year warranty compared to a 5 year warranty on the 840 Pro.
     
  3. jaug1337

    jaug1337 de_dust2

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    The clash of the titans!

    They are going to be the two kings without doubt though :p
     
  4. baii

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    How is 500/450 "much quicker" than before...?
     
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    jaug1337 de_dust2

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    They are supposed to be closer to 500/450 now, instead of the usual "Up to 500 MB/s and 450 MB/s :) not sure though, this is what I understood so far. Better 4k speeds and such
     
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    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    Cool. What about the 525 specs? :)
     
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    jaug1337 de_dust2

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    No idea.

    But according to several sources, the new 525 series will support mSATA. But virtually no other information.
    - Intel is not so keen on getting things out... especially about their latest inventions (recall the 3970X leak, Intel not happy).
     
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    or why does it matter .... would have been the better question.
     
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    baii Sone

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    that lead to Why even put out a new drive xD
     
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    R3d Notebook Virtuoso

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    Anandtech review up. Fast performer and good power consumption, but it seems like TRIM still doesn't work.
     
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    +1 (when I can)

    Quick update, tyvm R3d!


    Somehow I'm not impressed.. If the 525 doesn't impress, then Samsung basically won the SSD market
     
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    miro_gt Notebook Deity

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    must be pretty small kingdom though ... and without a doubt I'm not going to be buying those anytime soon, or ever.

    AnandTech - Intel SSD 335 (240GB) Review
     
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    jaug1337 de_dust2

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    R3d just linked it.

    I'm talking about the companies, Samsung and Intel, not the series themselves :) noticed you've got two 830 yourself
     
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    Invincible10001 Notebook Consultant

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    But why are all Intel mSATA drives so much more expensive than others?
    The specs. for their mSATAs aren't all that much better than other mSATAs out there..like the Crucial m4. Or am I mistaken?
     
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    Software. Same goes for the Samsung mSATA's.

    Otherwise.. it's just the brand selling
     
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    ExMM Notebook Evangelist

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    Still I don't really trust sandforce controller...
     
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    davidricardo86 Notebook Deity

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    I wouldn't either but has the notorious sandforce controller fiasco been resolved by now or is it still happening even in these Intel SSDs (and other brands)? I haven't kept up with the latest news on this subject.

    Sent from my SPH-M580 using Tapatalk
     
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    Only happens on the infamous great OCZ's SSD's but no havn't heard of any failes regarding Intel for a while now
     
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    Intel 335 Series Press Release

    New Intel Client/Consumer SSD Offers Blend of Performance, Quality and Price

    NEWS HIGHLIGHTS

    •Intel SSD 335 Series is the first Intel SSD to ship using industry-leading 20nm NAND flash memory from IMFT.
    •The 6 Gb/s SATA Intel SSD 335 comes in 240GB capacity and offers a unique blend of performance, quality and price.
    •With 4KB reads up to 42,000 IOPS and writes up to 52,000 IOPS, the Intel SSD 335 offers a speedy replacement to an HDD.

    http://newsroom.intel.com/community/...d-flash-memory
     
  20. cjogn8230

    cjogn8230 Notebook Guru

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    Ha ha - its understandable . Once bitten twice shy. Even i had that opinion some time back, but trust me all sandforce issues - including the BSOD ones were fixed long ago with the firmware 5.0.3, and performance has been pretty good so far