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    Intel will follow Nvidia regarding castration of the amount cores for their coming Cpus in notebooks

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Papusan, Oct 3, 2021.

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    jclausius Notebook Virtuoso

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    That doesn't sound very encouraging for the power enthusiast. I'd like to see benches in comparison to desktop CPUs. if a mobile CPU is perhaps 3-4% slower, then that wouldn't be too bad. However, I don't think that is the case, and it will be 100% BGA in a mobile platform. If that is indeed the case, my guess is DTR laptops will truly become a things of the past, and that is a very sad statement to make. Hopefully, I'm wrong.

     
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    ADL-S BGA 8+8 might come later, it was on the roadmap.
     
  3. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    The mobile chips already run a much lower boost clocks due much lower TDP. 115w vs 241w. Add 25% less P-cores and you can clearly see where this will go. Intel do exactly what Nvidia have done. Increased more cores and higher TDP for the desktop cards vs mobile graphics. Everything goes the wrong way due the hunger for Apple designed laptops. And DTR's seems dead and buried from early 2022 and forwards.


    All the OEM use last weapon in their toolbox to fight cooling without making a proper cooling. This will doubtly reduce the headroom to improve the cooling once you have the laptops in hands with temps around 100C. They all go the cheapo route now over devoloping/creating a better VC, heatsink, more and better pipes, fans and bigger and better cooling fin stack. In short... Liquid metal is the cheapo way to improve already bad cooling. And laptops will become thinner... What weapon should they then try? Magic or rely on firmware/low-level framwork/drivers and software to castrate the power consumption/better throttling algo further? The future looks grim for high performance laptops.

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    CES 2022 | MSI joins Asus, Dell, and Lenovo in offering liquid metal cooling for its gaming laptops

    Look at this... Dell will offer AMD Radeon RX 6850MXT (175W max TGP) in the AW m17 R5. But the power adapter max out at 240W. This means only 65w will be remaining for all of the rest of HW included the Cpu. Fail!
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    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Alien...Nvidia-graphics-cards.585052.0.html#8132300-1
    AMD still won't offer more than 8 cores https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-announces-ryzen-6000-mobile-cpus-based-on-6nm-zen3-rembrandt-silicon

    Intel have already 14 cores (included the baby cores) and higher boost clocks. Why should they add in a new SKU if the one they already have is good enough to come in front or on par? And Intel already struggle with the high power consumption even on their newest node. Both for desktop and laptop chips.

    Remember it seems Intel finally have scrapped BGA in their high perfomance NUCs. They probably go for LGA this time. Aka less need for a better performing BGA Cpu.

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    Massive Intel Alder Lake CPU found inside next-gen NUC ..
     
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