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    Interesting info in the core i7 datasheet.

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by moral hazard, Oct 28, 2009.

  1. moral hazard

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    So I was looking at the datasheet for these i7 CPUs:
    http://download.intel.com/design/processor/datashts/320834.pdf

    You can clearly see how to do a volt mod.


    But one thing that caught my eye was the following on page 69:

    Also I have attached a screenshot of an interesting table (page 17).

    So I thought those pins could be usefull.
     

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    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    That is not a volt mod. That kind of protection setting would prevent a high power processor from working when the notebook's cooling system and power circuity was designed for lower power processors.

    That way someone could not install a quad core X9100 when the notebook was designed to specifically work with P8x00 and P9x00 series processors.
     
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    What I meant was you can cleary see how to do a volt mod in the datasheet, so I wont even bother mentioning it.


    The part of the datasheet I found interesting may be a way to allow upgrades in the future, the part I underlined and put in bold font in the quote.
     
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    to do the volt mod, you would only have to look at Table 2-1. Voltage Identification Definition (p17).

    Then look at the Land Listing to find where each VID pin is.

    Then just follow instructions for older processors.
     
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    Or, put another way............................

    Prevent the END USERS from upgrading to an "Unsupported" CPU so Intel can sell you a NEW SYSTEM, now that they have LOCKED OUT 3rd party Chipsets.

    I don't want to come off as a TOOL, but.............. protection was about the last thing on the list.
     
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    You can get around it, you just need to ground or apply voltage to one or more MSID pins.
     
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    And as you are so well informed why don't you do it/offer link to sites that offer the information?
    That would be far more useful to most members.
     
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    No reason for the attitude...

    And no, there is no site that I know of that offers that information.

    What you need to do should be pretty obvious; set the MISD pins to that of a lower power processor if you are trying to install a higher power processor on a notebook that won't allow it.
     
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    Look at the table in my first post.

    It shows which MSID pins to set to what values.
     
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    Actually this may be impossible. The pins aren't dumb, but listed as I/O. VID0, VID1, and VID2 are also MISD0, MISD1, and MISD2. Check out pages 69, 73, and 77 in this document for the i7 mobile processors: http://download.intel.com/design/processor/datashts/320765.pdf Obviously not the way it has been for years.
     
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    So you're saying they are sampled at startup, then used for other things(voltage)?

    EDIT: Looks like you would only have to change VID[1]. That would change the voltage very slightly.
    I dont think it would cause any problems?