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    Is GeForce 8300m replacable?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by xen32, Nov 5, 2009.

  1. xen32

    xen32 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Is it possible to change 8400m wihout changing whole motherboard?



    I had some problems with my video card (white screen on boot, not even showing a bios or something), brought my HP Pavillion laptop to service center, they've promised to fix it, but evenually screwed everything up and laptop was restarting immidietly upon boot.

    Brought it to other service center, they are telling my that they can fix my laptop by changing moterboard.

    So, the prbolem is - if they'll change motherboard, and video card won't be changed - i'll still have a problem, and I'll have to pay again for fixing video card problem...
     
  2. IntelUser

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    Short googling suggests the "Geforce 8300M" is a "motherboard GPU", better known as integrated graphics. That would mean replacing motherboard will naturally result in replacing the video card too. :)
     
  3. xen32

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    Good.
    Thanks.
    Why they don't call Geforece 8300 an integrated card then?
     
  4. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    because integrated is when the northbridge and the GPU are one single chip.

    When you have a dedicated chip, it's called dedicated, get it?

    Ask them if you can keep your old motherboard when they swap it out.

    You may be able to fix it with a heat gun, 300C for a few mins. Check youtube for BGA reflow BGA reworking BGA reballing.
     
  5. xen32

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    That's how "first guys" where trying to fix my laptop :) And it's dead now.
     
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    It's extremely annoying, but upon rechecking google, I can't find any mention of "8300M" or 8300 mobile. It exists as an integrated chip in desktops, but I don't know if it does in mobile, I can only see 8200. Even the Nvidia site doesn't show it.

    It's possible they might not call it integrated even if it is indeed a integrated part. The "Motherboard GPU" I have mentioned in my first response is referring to integrated graphics, the one they put in the chipset(not that motherboard solder type where they merely stick dedicated chip on the side).

    I think its due to marketing reasons on some laptops. They call 8200 as if it was a discrete part.

    Check if the laptop uses shared VRAM. If it doesn't have any dedicated VRAM, then its definitely integrated graphics.
     
  7. xen32

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    Oops, it's 8400m.
     
  8. xen32

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    Hm... so, 8400m could be both mxm and integrated.
    How do I check which form factor it is?
    HP DV 6565
     
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    It's soldered. If you have to ask, it's soldered.
     
  10. xen32

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    Ok, thanks!
     
  11. moral hazard

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    8400m is known faulty.

    Just google it.
     
  12. Greg

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    HP consumer notebooks always have their graphics cards soldered to the main board. Nothing you can do to replace it short of replacing the entire motherboard.

    If they change the motherboard, they will end up changing the GPU. But the problem is that you are merely postponing the inevitable - that computer has a faulty graphics card and it will die again.
     
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    The computer repair shop I work on declines service on DV6000 and 9000 laptops with nvidia graphics that don't turn on. They're all dead motherboards and it's not worth replacing the board.
     
  14. moral hazard

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    Ask if they have a motherboard with intel graphics. It's going to be weaker in games, but the notebook will not die.

    When you get your new notebook, keep an eye on the GPU temp.
     
  15. xen32

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    Ok.
    I've heard that nvidia confiremd that their videocards are bad and they've released some bios update which would make fan spin faster to keep GPU temp down.

    Anyway, I'm not goin to play games on my notebook anymore.
     
  16. Greg

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    It is not just games...just using the card will eventually trigger the issue.