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    Is Haswell ULT in violation of the FTC settlement terms?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Peon, Jul 18, 2013.

  1. Peon

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    IIRC the settlement explicitly states that Intel cannot cripple the PCIe bus, at least for the next few years.

    I wonder if we'll be seeing an injunction on Haswell ULT in the near future...
     
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  3. Peon

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    From what I recall, one of the settlement terms states that Intel is not allowed to reduce the functionality of PCIe in any way, shape or form for a certain number of years (I think the terms expire in 2017, but I can't really remember). Simply having some token number of PCIe lanes present is not enough - if the previous generation of CPUs had X amount of PCIe bandwidth, the next generation must have equal or better.

    And Ivy Bridge ULV had all 16 PCIe 3.0 lanes from the CPU on top of the PCH lanes that both IB and Haswell have...
     
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