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    is the upgrade worth it?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by DutyHunter, Feb 10, 2008.

  1. DutyHunter

    DutyHunter Notebook Consultant

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    Hello!

    i have a question pertaining to my RAM clock speed... i know my motherboard can handle up to 533mhz for the ram bus speed???

    but CPUZ says the clock speed of my ram is only 333mhz which is about 200mhz slower than the maximum. I have no idea if the extra speed will have a significant change in performance. i was planning to purchase a single 2gb RAM chip clocked at 677mhz... i read somewhere that that the ram chip will automatically be used as 533mhz or something??

    but yes! i multi-task alot between music, google earth, internet, video's and some starcraft and im sure my lappy can go a little faster. Im also possibly going to start taking on photography. which means i need photo shop.

    i currently have 1.5gigz clocked at 333mhz... will the upgrade help?
     
  2. adinu

    adinu I pwn teh n00bs.

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    If cpuz says your ram is running at 333MHz, then that means it's actually running at 667MHz effective because it's pumped (double data rate).

    So there's no more upgrades for you to make. Plus, the slight increase in ram speed will not really make a difference in what you do.
     
  3. powerpack

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    You can buy a PC5300/5400 200pin SODIMM DDRII, 2GB so you will have 3GB's total or a 1GB stick so you will have 2GB's total both might help w/Vista.

    Now CPU-Z with the "memory" tab says 333Mhz? If so interesting as not the 1st budget notebook I have seen with the T2310 w/has a 533Mhz FSB but says RAM speed is 667Mhz. Kind of off post but could you try and confirm your RAM is running at 667Mhz on a 533Mhz FSB maybe with SiSoft SANDRA!
     
  4. DutyHunter

    DutyHunter Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks! Ps. your avatar is eerie :eek: it reminds me of "The Iron Giant" somewhat



    wow this program is awesome! it tells me much more than everest did.
    in the Mainboard section, it tell me under "Logical/Chipset 1 Memory Banks" that the Memory Bus Speed is 2x266Mhz(532Mhz) and that the Maximum Memory Speed is 2x333Mhz(666Mhz)

    so.... that means i can upgrade to 667mhz???? or is it already running at 667mhz??

    Snaps for me! Snap* Snap* Snap* i can upgrade to a max of 4 gigz. hopefully when i do, it'll help the sluggishness.

    one of my ram chips was made on Christmas of 1999, it was a saturday...

    -the Performance Tips frighten me... or atleast make me hate my laptop... just a bit. -"Mainboard has too few memory slots. Upgrading the memory may be difficult or expensive." then one saying that all slots are taken... upgrading memory may be.... then one saying that my shared video card sux and to use an external vid card.

    I AM ABSOLUTELY APPALLED. I DO NOT HAVE HYPER THREADING CAPABILITIES! GHASTLY DISCOVERY!
    -now that i actually looked up what it is, i dont need it.......
     
  5. adinu

    adinu I pwn teh n00bs.

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    If cpuz says 333, then you already have 667MHz effective ram.
     
  6. powerpack

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    So DutyHunter took me a minute to figure out you were running SiSoft not CPU-Z! Ha ha! benchmark your RAM bandwidth! Post the results, in the bottom left you can save as a notepad. Post it so I can read and maybe tell you something.
     
  7. DutyHunter

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    where is the file saved? LOL

    i saved it to clipboard too but i dont even know if i have that program.

    i have no idea how to get it into word pad or something...

    it says, under chipset one, that the front side bus is 4x133Mhz(532Mhz)
    the Width is 64-bit
    and the Maximum Bus Bandwidth is 4.16GB/s

    this is tested under "Random" for the Memory Access

    sorry for the inconvenience, but is this sufficient information?
     
  8. powerpack

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    Run benchmark, save to clipboard, go to start> programs> accesories> notepad, open. Now press Ctrl (lower left on keys) then while holding push "V" that will paste the info (assuming you had the curser blinking in NotePad).

    It will look like this.

    SiSoftware Sandra

    Benchmark Results
    Int Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth : 3945 MB/s
    Float Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth : 3888 MB/s
    Results Interpretation : Higher index values are better.

    Int Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth
    Assignment : 3953 MB/s
    Scaling : 3917 MB/s
    Addition : 4045 MB/s
    Triad : 3868 MB/s
    Data Item Size : 16 byte(s)
    Buffering Used : Yes
    Offset Displacement Used : Yes
    Bandwidth Efficiency : 46% (estimated)

    Float Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth
    Assignment : 3922 MB/s
    Scaling : 3946 MB/s
    Addition : 3835 MB/s
    Triad : 3852 MB/s
    Data Item Size : 16 byte(s)
    Buffering Used : Yes
    Offset Displacement Used : Yes
    Bandwidth Efficiency : 46% (estimated)

    Performance Test Status
    Run ID : powerpack on Monday, February 11, 2008 at 8:44:41 PM
    Platform Compliance : Win32 x86
    Memory Used by Test : 512MB
    NUMA Support : No
    SMP (Multi-Processor) Benchmark : No
    Total Test Threads : 2
    Multi-Core Test : Yes
    SMT (Multi-Threaded) Benchmark : No
    Processor Affinity : P0C0T0 P0C1T0
    System Timer : 3.6MHz
    Page Size : 4kB
    Use Large Memory Pages : No

    Features
    SSE Technology : Yes
    SSE2 Technology : Yes
    SSE3 Technology : Yes
    Supplemental SSE3 Technology : No
    SSE4 Technology : No
    EMMX - Extended MMX Technology : Yes
    SSE4A Technology : No
    HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : No

    Chipset 1
    Model : Gateway 2000 RS480 Host Bridge
    Revision : B1
    Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 800MHz (1600MHz data rate)
    In/Out Width : 16-bit / 16-bit
    Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 6400MB/s (estimated)

    Chipset 2
    Model : Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) Athlon 64 / Opteron HyperTransport Technology Configuration
    Revision : A1
    Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 800MHz (1600MHz data rate)
    In/Out Width : 16-bit / 16-bit
    Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 6400MB/s (estimated)

    Logical/Chipset 2 Memory Banks
    Bank 0 : 1GB DDR2-SDRAM 4.0-4-4-11 (tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS) CR2
    Bank 1 : 1GB DDR2-SDRAM 4.0-4-4-11 (tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS) CR2
    Channels : 1
    Bank Interleave : 2-way
    Memory Bus Speed : 2x 266MHz (532MHz data rate)
    Width : 128-bit
    Memory Controller in Processor : Yes
    Cores per Memory Controller : 2 Unit(s)
    Maximum Memory Bus Bandwidth : 8512MB/s (estimated)

    Performance Tips
    Notice 5008 : To change benchmarks, click Options.
    Notice 5004 : Synthetic benchmark. May not tally with 'real-life' performance.
    Notice 5006 : Only compare the results with ones obtained using the same version!
    Warning 5400 : Low bandwidth efficiency (advanced). Check memory timings and settings.
    Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.
     
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    Holy hell i finally got it! i did the

    cache and memory and memory latency before i looked at it correctly and found memory bandwidth! here we finally go... my results.
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    SiSoftware Sandra

    Benchmark Results
    Int Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth : 2.31GB/s
    Float Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth : 2.36GB/s
    Results Interpretation : Higher index values are better.

    Performance vs. Speed
    Int Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth : 4.45MB/s/MHz
    Float Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth : 4.55MB/s/MHz
    Results Interpretation : Higher index values are better.

    Performance vs. Power
    Chipset(s)/Memory Power : 16.20W
    Int Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth : 146.17MB/s/W
    Float Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth : 149.26MB/s/W
    Results Interpretation : Higher index values are better.

    Int Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth
    Assignment : 2.23GB/s
    Scaling : 2.24GB/s
    Addition : 2.43GB/s
    Triad : 2.36GB/s
    Data Item Size : 16bytes
    Buffering Used : Yes
    Offset Displacement Used : Yes
    Bandwidth Efficiency : 55.64%

    Float Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth
    Assignment : 2.35GB/s
    Scaling : 2.27GB/s
    Addition : 2.48GB/s
    Triad : 2.36GB/s
    Data Item Size : 16bytes
    Buffering Used : Yes
    Offset Displacement Used : Yes
    Bandwidth Efficiency : 56.81%

    Performance Test Status
    Run ID : Intel Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Express Processor to DRAM Controller (Internal Graphics); 2x 768MB DDR2 PC2-4300 (4.0-4-4-12)
    Platform Compliance : Win32 x86
    Memory Used by Test : 511.97MB
    NUMA Support : No
    SMP (Multi-Processor) Benchmark : No
    Total Test Threads : 1
    Multi-Core Test : Yes
    SMT (Multi-Threaded) Benchmark : No
    Processor Affinity : P0C0T0
    System Timer : 14.32MHz
    Page Size : 4kB
    Use Large Memory Pages : No

    Features
    SSE Technology : Yes
    SSE2 Technology : Yes
    SSE3 Technology : Yes
    Supplemental SSE3 Technology : Yes
    SSE4.1 Technology : No
    SSE4.2 Technology : No
    EMMX - Extended MMX Technology : No
    SSE4A Technology : No
    HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : No

    Chipset 1
    Model : HP Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Express Processor to DRAM Controller
    Revision : A4
    Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 133MHz (532MHz)
    Width : 64-bit
    Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 4.16GB/s

    Logical/Chipset 1 Memory Banks
    Bank 0 : 256MB DDR2 4.0-4-4-12 CR1
    Bank 1 : 256MB DDR2 4.0-4-4-12 CR1
    Bank 4 : 512MB DDR2 4.0-4-4-12 CR1
    Bank 5 : 512MB DDR2 4.0-4-4-12 CR1
    Shared Memory : 8MB
    Channels : 2
    Memory Bus Speed : 2x 266MHz (532MHz)
    Multiplier : 4/2x
    Width : 64-bit
    Performance Acceleration Technology : No
    Memory Controller in Processor : No
    Maximum Memory Bus Bandwidth : 8.31GB/s

    Performance Tips
    Notice 5405 : System bandwidth appears FSB limited. Attempt to increase FSB.
    Notice 5008 : To change benchmarks, click Options.
    Notice 5004 : Synthetic benchmark. May not tally with 'real-life' performance.
    Notice 5006 : Only compare the results with ones obtained using the same version!
    Warning 2544 : System/Video shared memory greatly reduces performance. Use external video card.
    Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.