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    Is this normal wear for an SSD?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by talin, Jul 21, 2010.

  1. talin

    talin Notebook Prophet

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    Hi, I wasn't exactly sure how to word the title, but I have an 80GB Intel SSD (G2) that I used for 3.5 months. In the Intel SSD Toolbox, it shows 2.54TB of wear, and I wanted to know if that's normal? I was considering selling it, but I may decide to keep it after all.
    It works out to be about 25GB per day of writes. What, if anyone knows, is the write endurance of these drives? I have heard that flash cells can sustain 100,000 writes before failing, and 2.54TB means my drive has been written nearly 32 times over. I just want to be sure it wont wear out any time soon. :) What does anyone think?
     
  2. jasperjones

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    Consumer MLC flash is good for ~10k write cycles, not 100k.

    Intel estimated (last year) that if you wrote 20GB of data to your drive per day, its X25-M would be able to last you at least 5 years.

    Having said that, I find your number of 25GB per day relatively high. Perhaps it's because I'm comparing it to usage on my desktop which features SSD+HDD.
     
  3. talin

    talin Notebook Prophet

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    10k ha? Wow, that's not very encouraging. :\ I did admittedly put that SSD through it's paces, often installing/reinstalling different OS's as I was testing different games and software.
    So really, saying that writing 80GB per day (each cell gets written to once if the wear-leveling algorithm works correctly), than it would realistically take 10,000 days (or 27.4 years) to wear it out? Somehow I don't think it's quite that cut and dried though.
    Well, I think I will sell it after all and just cut my losses, and wait a few years until SSD prices come way down.
    Thanks for the reply jasper. :)
     
  4. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Seems like you used it a lot :D (I've got a little over 3TB in 9 months...) - but don't worry about it, its normal if you move a lot of files around and create large temp files - I must have written a lot recently with my Photoshop temp files...
     
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    have u turned off system restore lol? That might mean high write use..
     
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    I think there is your answer - the installing of OSes.
     
  7. jasperjones

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    No, that's not accurate, at least not in real-world usage. Remember that 10k number I mentioned measures erase cycles. Yes, there's wear leveling, but it's imperfect. Over the lifetime of the drive, it will be true that the total amount of data your OS committed to the drive (e.g., 80GB per day) is smaller than the total amount of data erased by the SSD (as data can only be erased in blocks).

    What I'm saying is that, in practice, after writing 80GB, each of your X25-M's cells has gone through more than one erase cycle on average. At least that's how I understand it. Anyone correct me if I'm wrong

    EDIT: sorry for the convoluted post. In short: wear leveling reduces but not eliminates write amplification.
     
  8. talin

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    Thanks for the reply. I understand now. :)