January 7, 2010 = Arrandale!

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,10220.html

Arrandale won't be released until at least Jan. 7th (might just see paper launches). When you actually get that laptop in your hands is a totally different thing though...

 

At this point, I find the news on Quad-core are more exciting.
My next purchase will be a Quad-core or even beyond that, Dual-core now feels like something of yesterday.
On the side note, it's funny how Intel is trying to get their CPUs to do GPU's tasks and Nvidia is trying to get their GPUs to do CPU's tasks.

 

i dunno about you, but i find clarksdale to be as boring as . are we REALLY that concerned about TDP and on-die IGPs on a desktop?

arrandale on the other hand.....that will definitely be an interesting chip.

gulftown goes without saying, lol.

 

Oh, lets not come to such a hasty conclusion. Ultra high clocks and Nehalem enhancements mean it'll possibly nipping on the heels of i7 720QM(yes, I know that's also based on Nehalem) without the power consumption drawbacks, single, or multi-threaded. Should be similar on desktops.

And in the graphics side, it should finally bring competitive IGP from Intel.

 

haha agreed.

arrandale will be a beast. not in terms of power, but rather jsut how awesome it will be for the average consumer.

quad-cores are STILL too much for the average user, yet, there are opportunities where four threads will come in handy, while still be able to take advantage of higher two-core clocks. on TOP of this, it'll be at very low TDPs as well.

its pretty much the best of both worlds.

 

Great find, thanks for posting. The ability to switch to integrated graphics card when the longer battery life needed makes Arrandale very attractive.

 

News about the ULV Arrandales. It is a shame that ulv C2D's will be around still all through next year, too bad Arrandale isn't completely replacing them. Even in Q3 2010 Intel will be releasing new C2D culv's, right before Huron River platform (Sandy Bridge) is supposed to be released!

 

There is more information of these in the Intel Processor Information Guide I wrote some time ago.

Westmere is interesting, but what really tempts me is Sandy Bridge. And considering I just got a Clarkdale as my CPU, I wont need the upgrade.

BTW, Jayayess, have you found any information if the Arrandale CPU fits the LGA1336 (is that the name), anyways, the same chipset Clarksfield is using?

At the beginning reports said they were backwards compatible, and the upgrade from a Clarksfield to an Arrandale would be a simple CPU swap.

2011 is the year to look up to. AMD will catch Intel with Fusion and Intel with Sandy Bridge. Now, THAT will be REALLY interesting. (lol I just noticed I am defending my Clarksfield)

 

Looks like ultraportables won't be updated right away... H1 2010 is a pretty large span of time.

edit: Serg, you got the whole Nehalem thing mixed up...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Nehalem_(microarchitecture)#Code_names

 

Intel plans 3 ultraportable Core i5 and i7 in H1 2010

Another link updated

 

Jayayess JUST posted that same link...

 

what?

since when was clarksdale released?

and why would arrandale be using a desktop socket?

 

Sorry, posted the wrong name.

 

I think those desktop chips will be nice budget computers.

32nm, low tdp, low voltage.... you thinking the same thing?

amazing OC! If we can get your desktop i7's to speeds higher than 4Ghz just imagine?! 4.5Ghz on those chips shouldn't be hard.

 

so how does this translate to the consumer? when can we start seeing these being available from notebook manufacturers for purchase?

 

Arrandale will be available sometime in Q1 2010... unless you want an ultraportable, then you might have to wait longer (H1 2010 doesn't really narrow it down any unfortunately, just assume Q2 2010).

 

There seems to be some confusion regarding Arrandale release. Digitimes chart says: "Intel ultra-thin notebook CPU lineup, 4Q09-3Q10" which explicitely means they are talking about ultra-thin SKUs only. There's nothing there about regular non-ULV SKUs, which means the general release date is January 2010.

You want non-ULV Arrandale, you should be able to get it by January 2010.

 

Unofficial foreign site report says that Arrandale/Clarkdale will be shipping to OEMs in early December, with official introductions in January at CES.

http://www.parkoz.com/zboard/view.php?id=int_news&no=17685

http://translate.google.ca/translat...=int_news&no=17685&sl=ko&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

 

It will be at CES and on websites for preorder in early Jan, but doubt you'll actually receive it in your hands til late Feb or early Mar at the earliest. Too bad they didn't completely phase out C2Ds for the ULV, wonder what there reasoning is. Maybe just excess that need to be gotten rid of.

 

Well, Arrandale might not support DirectX 11. Can't wait for the Sandy Bridge 11.6" Acer's.

 

I cant wait for Sandy Bridge either. But here is my contribution:

Intel to launch four Arrandale CPUs for mainstream notebooks in January 2010

 

They'll most probably delay the launch till later on in 2010 so that they can allow OEMs to sell of stocks of Core 2 Processors and sell more of the expensive corei7s...

 

I don't understand now the point of Pentium's. Why not have the Core i3's replace them?

Core i7-Turbo Boost and Hyperthreading
Core i5-Turbo Boost no hyperthreading
Core i3-Neither (I think)
Pentium-????

Maximum PC

 

Thought only the desktop i5s have no hyperthreading but the notebook i5s did (which didn't really make sense) but it was in one (or more) of the articles posted regarding Arrandale.

 

There was a roadmap, either you provided sgogeta, or Jayayess did, that said about the ix versions.

i7 the full HT TB thing
i5 half only with TB only
i3 none of them

Wasnt i3 replacing the Atom/CULV segment and the i5 the Pentium segment leaving the i7 the C2D? No?

 

What? Atom is not going anywhere, and i3/i5/i7 will eventually replace Core 2 Duo, with Pentium and Celeron live on as the cheap end like they have been.

 

REALLY???

I feel insulted!! Atom and Celeron must disappear. Pentium can survive. lol


Ok, seriously (no more joking from me), I dont get the new naming. i3 is what? Low end C2D replacement? i5 is mainstream C2D replacement and i7 is high-end C2D replacement? With Clarsksfield as C2Q replacement?

Dang this is confusing...took me some time to learn the C2D schemes, and now they change...

 

No:

i3- low end mainstream missing features.
i5- mid end mainstream missing features,
i7- low/high end mainstream with all features.

For example, the replacement for current culv's is the Core i7 620um (1.06GHz)/640um (1.2GHz) and Core i5 540um (1.2GHz). All it means that is that Core i7's have all the features while i3 and i5 are missing some. You could get a Core i3 that is more powerful than an ulv Core i7, but the i7 ulv will have more features.

 

And where does the i3 fit there?

 

You can't think of i3/i5/i7 as exactly replacing an exact C2D series. Start fresh.

Core i7 620UM/640UM and Core i5 540UM replace SU series.

Core i7 620LM/640LM replace SL/SP series.

Core i7 620M and Core i5 520M/540M replace P/T series.

 

This is even worst than when NVIDIA does the naming of a new batch of GPUs!! (when nobody knows what is what)

After the drop of the Centrino branding and the specs of Arrandales i3, i5 and i7d and i7q (my naming so I can differentiate them...:wink I kinda got lost.

So, fresh start.

i3 low end 32nm no TB no HT
i5 mainstream 32nm TB no HT
i7d mid-high 32nm TB HT
i7q high end 45nm TB HT

Like that, no?

 

For the most part, yes. Except that you could find a Core i7 in a future Acer Timeline 1810 while a Core i3 could be in a low end Sony SR...

 

Serg, the weird CPU lines like lower-middle-upper-end and middle-middle-upper-end D) are there just to replace price bracket of the previous CPUs. Here's the naming for Arrandale:

Core i7: 4MB L3/Turbo Mode/Hyperthreading
Core i5: 3MB L3/Turbo Mode/Hyperthreading
Core i3: 3MB L3/No Turbo Mode/Hyperthreading

And I assume...

Pentium: 3MB L3/No Turbo Mode/No Hyperthreading
Celeron: 2MB L3/No Turbo Mode/No Hyperthreading

Update: Hey, why not we add another one...

So there will be TWO(yes two) classes of Core i5. Core i5 5xx and the Core i5 4xx. Core i5 5xx features FULL Turbo Mode and Core i5 4xx features half Turbo Mode boost...

 

The point is, only Core i7's are worth buying if you want everything (full Turbo Boost, Hyperthreading, and the most L3 cache).

 

I hope Digitimes is wrong like they are half of the time and Intel doesn't release 5xx and 4xx Core i5 Arrandale's, just one! At this point, the segmentation seems pretty much overkill. The cut down 3MB L3 better make more than 5% difference.

Then there are the multiple different power segments with SV/LV/ULV. In each segment there might be multiple speed grades. Each segment has different graphics core speeds and their respective Turbo grades.

Well, maybe if they don't introduce more Arrandale models later on the year like they do it might not be so confusing. Core 2 seems pretty messy now.

 

^^^ More Arrandales are already planned for introduction later in 2010 for the refresh, along with the Pentium/Celeron versions.

 

Agreed there. It is kinda confusing, so avoid problems, and the i7 is the thing to go...^^

Although that i9 rumour sounds interesting.

 

i9 won't be happening any time soon....

 

Nor is Sandy Bridge, but I can wait for them...I mean, I just got an i7.,,:wink:

 

How nice.....exactly a month before I pass the quarter century mark.....

 

Half Turbo Boost? What?!

 

It just doesn't clock as high.

 

How will these ULV Arrandales fare against standard voltage C2D's?

 

So here is a comparison to give an idea of how the i5 stacks to a C2D.

 

Serg,

Thanks for the comparisons, but I really, really hate benchmarks.

In real world use, how much more productive are the i5's?

My main use of computers is converting, editing and 'developing' RAW images to jpg/tiffs/psd's.

Thanks.

 

So why not just skip the ulv's and wait for the standard voltage i3/i5/i7's. The UM series i5/i7's are for machines like Acer Timeline's, Asus UL series. You want the M series Core i5/i7's to notice a big performance increase over a standard voltage C2D.

 

Oh! Definitely not holding out for the ulv's.

I thought the graphs Serg posted were for the M (mobile?) series?

Even the lowly Core 2 Duo @ 2.4Ghz in the graphs is faster than my VAIO @ 2.26Ghz - so even if those are ulv's, then why not?

 

Those are the ones the new iMacs can carry. They are desktop parts, considering the i5 mobile is not out yet...

 

Agreed... but if you want the real deal , get a Clevo D900F laptop with core i7 desktop 975 extreme I'm going to get that laptop for sure!

 

nice no? http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/11/16/intel.nehalem.ex.coming.for.hpc.systems/