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    Laptop Screen Question...

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by imglidinhere, Aug 30, 2012.

  1. imglidinhere

    imglidinhere Notebook Deity

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    Which screen is genuinely better than the other?

    MBP Retina IPS Panel?

    or

    M17x R2 WUXGA RGB Screen?
     
  2. NeoCzar

    NeoCzar Notebook Evangelist

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    I don't know which scenario makes a TN panel better than an IPS, so I'm not sure if your poll is asking those who definitively know/have tried it, or our opinion.
     
  3. tilleroftheearth

    tilleroftheearth Wisdom listens quietly...

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    I also don't understand this poll.

    Either you want an optimized OS/x or you want a Windows setup: you don't have a choice to get one O/S with either screen.

    (And no, running Win7 via bootcamp or VM is not an 'optimized' setup).
     
  4. Krane

    Krane Notebook Prophet

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    You realize you're essentially asking which fruit is better: apples or oranges? If I need vitamin C, an apple isn't gong to help me much. And oranges don't hold up to well when baked in pies.
     
  5. KCETech1

    KCETech1 Notebook Prophet

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    in color gamut the m17x is better by about 5-10% ( I have both mbp-r and 17X-r3, and the w520 beats it by about 30-40%. then the big workstation laptops from Dell and HP can beat the retina by over 50%... all values from calibrated screens with a Spyder Pro )

    where the retina beats the M17 and w520 is purely on black level and viewing angles especially until applications support it much better for its resolution.

    mbp-r = 90% sRGB, 60% aRGB/NTSC. 16.7 million colors - good black, bad whitepoint ( IPS )
    m17x = 97% sRGB, 64% aRGB/NTSC. 16.7 million colors - decent black, decent whitepoint ( TN )
    w520, and upgraded Clevo screens 128% sRGB, 84% aRGB/NTSC 16.7 million colors, decent black, decent whitepoint ( TN )
    Dreamcolor2 - 161% sRGB, 98.8% aRGB/NTSC, 1.1 billion colors excellent black, excellent whitepoint ( IPS )
    Premiercolor - see DC2 above

    most times in color accuracy and depth, look at Sony's IPS screens and the early x220's, the reds are screwed up and the true gamut is under 60% sRGB. IPS certainly does not guarantee better just as saying all TN or ccfl backlight screens are/were bad.
     
  6. Krane

    Krane Notebook Prophet

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    Do these numbers reflex your subjective view as well?
     
  7. StormJumper

    StormJumper Notebook Virtuoso

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    I support this reply what the OP is asking is so convoluted of a polling question since both are designed for different products for different reason that they can neither be better then one or the other or one is more inferior to the other.
     
  8. KCETech1

    KCETech1 Notebook Prophet

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    very much so. I work on the DC2 screens all day long and dropping to an MBP-r or regular " consumer " laptop is about the same as going to an out if sync CRT running 256 color mode. To compete with the expensive workstations screen wise get ready to drop a few hundred to few thousand on externals, even my $999 ACD display cant touch the Dreamcolors/Precisioncolors

    of all the units listed the only ones I have never used hands on is the T&W-530, but I have used the exact AUO panel in a 15" Clevo chasis.
     
  9. mattcheau

    mattcheau Notebook Deity

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    if i may hijack for a moment, is there any way to determine a panel model within windows?
     
  10. R3d

    R3d Notebook Virtuoso

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    Use HWinfo.
     
  11. imglidinhere

    imglidinhere Notebook Deity

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    I appreciate the detailed response I got here. I didn't understand that asking "which screen is better?" was so confusing. Literally comparing one screen to the other. o_o I guess that's something that's never been asked before?
     
  12. imglidinhere

    imglidinhere Notebook Deity

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    Oh. o_o I didn't realize it was THAT in depth. o-O OOopsy. Now I feel like even moar of a n00b. :eek:
     
  13. Krane

    Krane Notebook Prophet

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    Then perhaps next time, you will consider your audience? [​IMG]