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    Lcd to led upgrade

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by sc20k1, Nov 24, 2009.

  1. sc20k1

    sc20k1 Newbie

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    Is it possible to replace the original lcd screen on my notebook by a led screen from another manufacturer if it's the same size (15.4) ?
     
  2. ZaZ

    ZaZ Super Model Super Moderator

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    It might help if you said which notebook you have. As a general rule you're going to have to change the cable and inverter at a minimum, plus find a screen that will fit, which may or may not be easy depending on your machine.
     
  3. sheiq

    sheiq Notebook Enthusiast

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    This is a very interesting idea. Would this upgrade be possible for Acer TM8215 with 15.4"??
    Mine currently has a matte WSXGA+ (1680x1050) screen. Would be nice with a glossy LED screen instead...
     
  4. BaldwinHillsTrojan

    BaldwinHillsTrojan Notebook Evangelist

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    folks that's crazy. firstly its a high risk op to open the casing and secondly you don't know what you are doing if you are asking if its possible. of course it is if you find the parts that fit exactly. the bottom line however is its simply not cost effective and what is the real dervied benefit other than bragging rights. do your friends really care, assmuing they even know the difference between lcd and led? if you need to impress someone by the type of screen you have then they are not your friends and you are misdirected. BHT
     
  5. sean473

    sean473 Notebook Prophet

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    You also need to tell us the model of the LCD is originally and what is the replacement one... also need part number... forget upgrading it's complicated and expensive and more likely to unsuccessufull than successfull... get an external monitor if you want a better screen and use HDMI etc...
     
  6. ZaZ

    ZaZ Super Model Super Moderator

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    I'm not aware of any WSXGA+ glossy LCDs.
     
  7. thinkpad knows best

    thinkpad knows best Notebook Deity

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    Why are you assuming so many things right off the bat, i think you jumped the gun a little, first of all, opening up the casing is not risky as long as you have some good logic, replacing the screen would be easy if he/she just followed the instructions in his manual for replacing the screen... Following instructions isn't that hard, even if it takes him all day to replace it, but had followed the instructions, he would have had peace of mind because he did everything according to manufacturers instructions and if it did have a defect then he would have to blame poor instructions. You also seem to think he wants the screen for bragging rights, what if he just wants a brighter screen, or for the LED beneffits?
     
  8. Judicator

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    As shown from the original post here, the question becomes exactly what the OP means by a LED screen from another manufacturer. If it's a manufacturer that makes LED screens for that specific model (doubtful, as I don't remember many, if any models that come with the option for either CCFL or LED backlights), then yes, it should be relatively straightforward, but his specific point of it being from another manufacturer makes me think that unlikely.

    This would mean that an operation of this sort would be a kitbash mod, with all the usual headaches of making something not specifically designed to fit work. Not to say that it can't be done, but I doubt it'd be as straightforward as you make it out to be, as unless someone else has done it before and made a guide, there won't be any manufacturer's instructions to make things easier.
     
  9. highlandsun

    highlandsun Notebook Evangelist

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    The dv5z LCD is glossy WSXGA+, but it doesn't have an LED backlight.

    I suspect that going from a CFL to LED backlight is quite difficult, but I haven't seen an LED backlit panel up close yet to tell. Since LEDs don't require an inverter, it may be simple.

    I've been trying to get my transplant of a 15.4" 1920x1200 panel working in my dv5z. This has not been easy (or successful) so far; the screen works most of the time but blanks out at various times depending on the content of the display. It's quite frustrating because there seem to be some resolution-dependent settings in the video BIOS that need to be reprogrammed, and I don't know what the new values should be.

    I think though, if you just swap to another panel with the same resolution, you should be fine.
     
  10. BaldwinHillsTrojan

    BaldwinHillsTrojan Notebook Evangelist

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    reminds me of people who put $3K rims on a used car. waste of money IMO.
     
  11. Deks

    Deks Notebook Prophet

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    Different people will have a varying perception of what they consider to be a 'waste of money'.
    I find the question interesting if anything.
    The 'bragging rights' have nothing to do with it in my personal opinion, because I'd personally perceive this upgrade as beneficial due to the overall pros the LED lit screen brings.

    Although, finding the right parts might be problematic.
    Notebook parts such as these are not easy to find, and when we do find them, usually they have a tendency of being ridiculously overpriced.
     
  12. sc20k1

    sc20k1 Newbie

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    Hi again everybody,

    Thanks for your good and bad answers. If the upgrade from lcd to led is too much complex, is there any brighter LCD screen? My current notebook is equipped with a 15.4 glossy TFT-LCD WSXGA+ screen. My notebook screen brightness is very faint compared to my brother's laptop which is a 14.1" WXGA TFT-LCD. I bought my laptop two years ago and a use it everyday.

    1) Is my screen faint because it’s old?

    2) I also wanted to know if there was any difference (other than price) between a screen bought on ebay and a screen bought on website like screentek.

    3)Why are their screens so expensive?
     
  13. BaldwinHillsTrojan

    BaldwinHillsTrojan Notebook Evangelist

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    right on homey. boo ya. lol
     
  14. 07torchgt

    07torchgt Notebook Consultant

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    i don't see him spending your money so why does it matter. if its what a person really wants and they feel happy about having it how is it a waste... i'm sure you have spent money on things others would consider a waste...

    Deks is correct, perspective is key here... I think tickets to a football game are a waste... You however might not think so... Some think strip clubs are a waste but some people enjoy it... To each their own... Let the man be..
     
  15. 5482741

    5482741 5482741

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    I was somewhat interested in doing this as well, then I saw that a 1920x1200 15.4 LED backlit screen would cost ~$500. Not as interested anymore.

    Here is a thread where a user had problems upgrading to an led backlit display that was supported by his laptop.
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=4913507
     
  16. Judicator

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    1) Doubtful. Screens are generally designed to have a certain brightness level, and for whatever reason, the screen in your current notebook was probably designed to have a lower brightness level than the one in your brother's notebook, be it to save power, money, or whatever other reason.

    2) Depends on the seller, really. Warranties are often (not always) better through a non-eBay seller, and quality can be higher as well. Additionally, you can often have a better idea of the provenance of a screen from an off-eBay seller; you may or may not have any idea if the screen you're buying from eBay was taken from an old computer that someone's already been using for 2-3 years or something.

    3) Again, depends on the seller. Off-eBay companies often have more in support costs to maintain their business, such as paying for website domains, storage, manufacture/quality control of the screens (if they manufacture them themselves), and all the other fun things that are involved with running a "regular" company. Oft-times eBay sellers are run out of someone's home, with goods that may or may not have been purchased from a business going out of sale, or perhaps pulled from some condemned shipment, or, well, it's hard to tell, sometimes.

    Note that this is not to say that eBay sellers are always or intentionally disreputable, just that oftentimes with eBay, there is a higher margin of buyer beware and the higher risk of getting something that may not be exactly what you think it is.
     
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    voltaire Notebook Consultant

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    Mormegil83 I Love Lamp.

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    May be dumb to suggest, but often times the easiest solution is the one over looked. have you checked the brightness settings? on AC and on Battery?
     
  19. weinter

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    I thought LED is brighter, and save more power than CCLF?
     
  20. eyeland

    eyeland Notebook Guru

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    I am dwelling on similar considderations as I have 2 thinkpads with defective lcd screens.
    (a) t61 - 7661-gn3 - 14,1 inch WXGA ( my own)
    (b) t400-6475 -cto - 14,1 inch WXGA (a friends)

    Both needs new screens but the t400 might be sent to Lenovo as the repair might be covered by insurance.

    The considderations remain largely the same though.
    (i) How easy is it to upgrade from WXGA to WXGA+
    (ii) How difficult (and pricey) is it to upgrade from LCD to LED

    Both the t61 and the t400 are sold with wxga and wxga+ and from what I've gathered from other forums as well as from Lenovo support, the cable, inverter etc are the same regardless of which of these 2 panels is installed.
    This leads me to conclude that whether I will perform the upgrade myself (t61) or whether Lenovo will do it (t400), upgrading from wxga to wxga+ should be as simple as replacing the panel without any upgrade.

    Simillarly, as some t400 are sold with LED, the upgrade must be possible even though this seems to require a bit more expertice and money as more parts than just the panel itself will need replacement.

    The third variant is that of upgrading the t61 to LED, an option not available "of the shelf" and thus, not something that can be guarantied to work.
    I'm sorry for making this post (my first ever in these forums) so long, my questions are as follows:

    1. I assume that upgrading the 7661-gn3 with This specific panel should be pretty straightforward, any objections?
    2. Has anyone tried the LCD > LED upgrade on a t61 or a t500/400?
    Which parts will need replacement? Soldering needed? Flashing needed?
     
  21. Judicator

    Judicator Judged and found wanting.

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    1) That should probably work.
    2) You'll probably have to ask in the Lenovo forums for this one in regards to anyone actually trying it out. With the T400, if you get the right panel for it, you'll probably end up going through something similar to the M4400 cited in one of the previous posts ( http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=4913507 ). For the T61, you'll need to find appropriate cables and connectors to hook it up to your motherboard (as well as the screen), and I don't know enough about the T61 video to LCD connectors to even start helping you there.
     
  22. Amnesiac

    Amnesiac 404

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    Hmm, I can see why he got banned.

    Maybe he wants an LED because they look nicer? And who are you to tell people people that switching out a screen is an absolutely un-doable process.
     
  23. eyeland

    eyeland Notebook Guru

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    thanks for the input, gonna stay LCD for now :)
     
  24. kaltmond

    kaltmond Clepple

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    I also want to change from a WUXGA CCFL to WUXGA LED, but seems to be difficult.....So i decied to change to a 2xCCFL screen. :D
     
  25. eyeland

    eyeland Notebook Guru

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    makes sense
    can you post a link for one?